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your parents and the psychedelic revolution
    #7432851 - 09/20/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I was just curious as to how many of you have parents who have used psychedelics. My father used a fair amount of LSD in his college days, and though he never outright told me so until I started smoking pot, he raised me with a rather unclouded view of psychedelics. He would never go off on tangents about it, or describe his experiences, but if I had been presented with misinformation about acid or mushrooms he would clear it up for me, and he explained at some point early on how "hallucinogen" is a misleading label for these drugs. He also touched briefly on the idea that some people use them for the purposes of exploration and philosophy. Basically, he made it clear to me that psychedelics are not "killer drugs," and that they are widely misunderstood, without ever actually telling me whether they were worth exploring or not.

My father hasn't used any drugs in a goddamn long time now (since before I was born), and he's an accomplished software engineer. However, my brother and I are now both completely fascinated by psychedelics, and we sense that we probably inherited this interest, however indirectly, from our father (especially considering psychedelics are literally the only interest the two of us have in common). If I manage to stay on track throughout my life, and have kids who will listen to the things I say, I will tell them about psychedelics in much the same way my father did to me, and they will most likely begin their own experimentation at some point as well. It made me wonder how common this circumstance is. If it is as widespread as I suspect - being that so many people used LSD in the 60's and then went on to have families - then we may be observing the subtle emergence of a brand-new mystic tradition in western culture.

This would mean that the "psychedelic revolution" is not a relic of the 60's, but an ongoing phenomenon that continues to influence our culture at large - a revolution that is still in its germinal phases. This idea is certainly strengthened by the fact that we live in a world where we can go online and tell everybody on earth about our experiences using these illegal drugs, and not only that, show off pictures of our monster crops of psychedelic mushrooms, without fear of reprisal. This is unprecedented in our modern society and lends major credence to the idea that we are already well on our way not only to understanding and using psychedelics responsibly as individuals, but integrating it into our shared culture in a productive and useful fashion - which, itself, has many precedents throughout human history.

It is already clear that authority is unable and/or unwilling to completely stamp out psychedelic use; LSD is scarce nowadays, but mushrooms can easily be found on the black market or, failing that, grown discreetly on a shoestring budget for anybody who is interested in using them. Spores are easy to obtain in most of the country and the equipment needed to nurture them is readily available in your local hardware store, with a wide variety of growing techniques found in a snap on the Internet. Indeed, the revolution has begun and cannot be stopped.

I guess this is sort of a rambling post, filled with obvious statements, but my ultimate question is: Did you guys pick up on psychedelics from your parents like I did? Or was it friends? Or just a personal interest?


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7432949 - 09/20/07 03:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It was entirely through friends for me. Unfortunately, it did start with DXM. then it advanced to cannabis, and one thing lead to another, and I'm the avid user of psychedelics i am today. (never gonna touch dxm again)

But all of my information comes from either my close friends, or the shroomery. I don't seem to find any reliable drug info among people who dont research it.

I enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way. It gave me hope.

My parents on the other hand, are very against any drugs. They rarely drink, and caffeine is the only one that both of them commonly use. They found out about my psychedelic usage, and they flipped shit. I continued to explain to them how they aren't bad, and eventually they realized that they aren't what people have been telling them. Then they told me they were illegal, which was the only legit reason not to do them that they came up with. So it worked in reverse in that instance.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7432998 - 09/20/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My mom has tried mushrooms and LSD, but she was one of the misinformed types. She dropped a microdot with her boyfriend who was driving at the time.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7433050 - 09/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

are microdots an outdated form of LSD? I have never heard of anyone getting microdots in my area, or at all. Have they completely discontinued them? (dont let this highjack the thread!)


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7433055 - 09/20/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

They're still around, just relatively rare.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: AlCapwn]
    #7433070 - 09/20/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well i was raised a preachers kid... my adoptive parents didn't experiment with any drugs or drinking, the worst thing my dad did was try cigarettes in HS and he didn't like them(yet carried them around to look cool lol). my adoptive fathers a piece of shit though so he ran off and cheated on my mom at the age of 5, which for some reason just made my mom more of a hardcore jesus type. i started drinking around the age of 13, experimenting with drugs by 14 she was absolutely clueless cause she had no idea what to look for. about 2 years ago i saw my mom drinking at a wedding and evidentally since she got remarried a few years ago he's helped loosen her up...

So no i didn't get my use from my parents. but i think it's funny that i was a hardcore alcoholic almost 7 years before my 60 year old mother had her first sip of anything alcoholic in her life. she likes alcohol now, is absolutely appauled that i'm a marijuana smoker, but i'm very honest and upfront with her these days. i figure a few more years of spewing the truth at her and showing her the scientific facts and her getting glaucoma or arthritis or something and i'll have her cultivating indoors lol...

because i'm honest with her, even though she doesn't understand my smoking pot, i can do it in her house while talking to her over coffee or whatnot, which is a perfect chance to show it doesn't 'mess one up' anything like alcohol does. give it a few more years and she'll be another pot smoking granny.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Drewwyann]
    #7433206 - 09/20/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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are microdots an outdated form of LSD? I have never heard of anyone getting microdots in my area, or at all. Have they completely discontinued them? (dont let this highjack the thread!)




I've got some right here. The one dude I know who has acid only has microdots right now, but since it's the second time I got some off of him it might just be coincidence. Also, I live in Europe. Think there's a difference in availability of the different forms of acid across continents?


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Kreuzkopf]
    #7433218 - 09/20/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I live on the west coast of the US and all the acid I've gotten in my life was on blank paper cut out by hand. I've never seen a microdot, though I would jump at the chance to try one.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433340 - 09/20/07 04:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I strongly suspect that my dad currently smokes weed (never caught him in the act). I doubt my mom smokes or has done any drugs, though. When I told them that I had done shrooms, my mom said, "What, you mean like weed?" and I had to stifle a laugh. Even my dad gave her a funny look.

My dad was a teenager living in Torrance, CA, in the early 70s, had long hair and a thick beard. While I know this isn't conclusive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he has used psychedelics.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Nasrudin]
    #7433346 - 09/20/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I strongly suspect that my dad currently smokes weed (never caught him in the act).  I doubt my mom smokes or has done any drugs, though.  When I told them that I had done shrooms, my mom said, "What, you mean like weed?" and I had to stifle a laugh.  Even my dad gave her a funny look.

My dad was a teenager living in Torrance, CA, in the early 70s, had long hair and a thick beard.  While I know this isn't conclusive, it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he has used psychedelics.




Wow... your parents sound exactly like mine. :laugh:


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433377 - 09/20/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Could they be the same person??? :crazy2:


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Nasrudin]
    #7433397 - 09/20/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, long lost brother. Oh the drama!


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #7433415 - 09/20/07 04:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My parents both used to use psychedelics. I didn't learn about it until I was a teen age kid as they were both decidedly anti drug while they were raising kids.

As I learned later on though they were fans of LSD, my mother has even gone so far as to tell me it is the best drug in existence. Though she insists that it is dangerous today as she is under the impression that acid now is something other than LSD.

I know that around 1970 my father tried moving to California to become a musician and at one point even had a run in with the law after his girlfriend at the time was caught in Miami international with 2 pounds of hash.

By the time my parents had children though they had stopped participating in such things and had created a successful computer graphics business. That was aside from my father smoking marijuana occasionally which my mother put a stop to when I was around the age of five. (I did recognize that smell from somewhere deep in my memory when I first encountered weed.)

Anyhow, the "psychedelic revolution" is certainly nothing which ever ended. It never will end either, the genie is out of the bottle. Drug use was something which has occurred throughout the history of mankind and it will only continue to.

Oh, that reminds me, my father is actually pictured here sometime in the early 70's. It is a pretty stereotypical looking group.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: MrKite1]
    #7433653 - 09/20/07 06:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Although my father never did any psychedelics, he was a big druggie when he was in high school/college, and although he's completely clean now and doesn't like my drug use, he is definitely on the 'pro-legalization' side and has always made it clear that weed is NOT as bad as people make it out to be.
His uncle (or second uncle? Who knows, we just call him uncle) however was a BIG hippie in the 60's, lived in hippie communes and whatnot. Although I never actually discussed psychedelics with him, when he found out I started smoking pot he gave me a call and we had a long talk about it. He still does it, and he's a nurse practitioner, and is VERY responsible with it. Only does it after work, mainly on weekends, not always every day etc. He has told me of his times on the communes though and I'm sooooo envious! Lying on the grass naked, tripping and looking at the clouds..... *dreamy sigh*


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Pootmaster]
    #7434229 - 09/20/07 08:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My father told me a story that was pretty good.

He went to URI before going to Brown. He was #1 on the waiting list, they said show up because 10 people wont come and everyone came so he went to URI and pleaded with the Dean to let him in as to avoid the draft. Of course with a 4.2 or something he got in. ANYWAYS.

It was his birthday and there is a room you can rent at the faculty building. He was a huge fan Grateful Dead and a friend of his father was a music producer. So my dad paid a couple hundred dollars for the Grateful Dead to play for about him and 250 other people that he handed flyers out to. Faculty couldn't keep control of the kids and Owsely was there handing out LSD. He said it was one of the craziest trips he's ever had.

He told me it was I was 16 and still to this day swears its true. I've never EVER known my father to lie so I think its a pretty cool story.

He's pretty understandable about LSD and Marijuana. In fact when I grew up he said its the only two drugs I could do as long as I didn't drive. He always told me not to do mushrooms because they could be "poisoned" because of it being a deadly mushroom. I always got told those sort of things, especially from a father with a PHD in medicine.

My mother on the other had is ruthless. She thinks marijuana kills braincells and that alcohol is a much better alternative. She is a nurse and I am surprised of her ignorance, but meh you know how moms are with their teenage boys.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: wireless]
    #7434374 - 09/20/07 09:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i just learned over the summer that my dad is a lot cooler than previously thought. he lives in saudi arabia and after he found out what a huge pot head i am started telling me about smoking hash everyday after work and tripping on shrooms while on vacation on the plane ride from amsterdam to paris so that they wouldnt be taken during customs. last time i saw him he told me some stories of picking in cow fields in florida when he was a teenager and shit.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: elcharrosays]
    #7434399 - 09/20/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My dad had his own apartment in Hait Ashburry from the age of 17 to about 21, and hung out among the musicians crowd. He likes to say that he was a 'true' hippie. That there was sort of a bad side to the hippie crowd as so many of them were in it for themselves (wanting to experience drugs) and weren't really there to help change things for the better. He's never talked about using psychadelics but I know he has, he's talked about smoking a little. When I was pretty young NPR was doing a report on synesthasia and even though my dad had never heard of it before after them only talking about for a little while he was saying all the experiences the reporter would say, right before the reporter would say it. Once the report was done he just said "That's really weird" and sorta sighed.

Unfortunately he's a big business republican asshole now.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7435144 - 09/21/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah my dad has used all sorts of drugs and we talk about psychedelics all the time. Although he was never around growing up due to an alcohol problem, I never thought drugs were ever that bad which probably had something to do with my mum who I know has smoked weed and I'm 90% sure she's done psychedelics.

But my dad always tells me stories about his trips and we talk all the time about mystical experiences and how to use lsd/mushroom trips to improve your life.

I think it's really useful to have a parent you can relate to about this sort of stuff and if I ever had kids, although I won't push them to use psychedelics, I'll definitely be there to talk to them about them and making sure they know what to expect.


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: Yosefxp]
    #7435235 - 09/21/07 03:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

when i was 14 or 15 my dad was talking to me about drugs and i was telling him how i thought they were all stupid, and he said "i don't know, mushrooms will make you see god" and i kind of ignored it and forgot about it till is started using mushrooms.

other than that i have no clue. i have a suspicion both of my parents were hippies at one time, and i think my mom had a really bad trip that made her afraid of psychedelics (she thinks acid is like the worst thing i could do when i told her about it it she screamed at my why couldn't i just smoke weed and drink like other kids)


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Re: your parents and the psychedelic revolution [Re: truekimbo2]
    #7435257 - 09/21/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You guys make me laugh. I love the long lost brother Idea!! Heheh.

Yeah my Dad and Mom didnt talk about drugs EVER. Untill of course I got fucked up on mushrooms when I was in school in te U.S. and decided to call my Dad and talk to him while tripping, about the fact that I understood the meaning of it all, and that we are all part of the universal oneness and that we ARE GOD, blah blah. He listened carefully, and then told me to be careful and later told me he thought I was a megalomaniac, and still calls me that to this day.

After, he started talking to me about his weed and hash smoking days (He hasnt done anything else). He didnt smoke much for sure, and tried to show off about him growing a (1!) plant (then I found out from his friends that he was only babysitting it for a friend for a week). Funny coz at school I had several huge plants growing in my dorm suite!

Ive obviously done much more than he has, but its interesting for sure knowing that they have done some of their own. Recently my Dad has gotten into smoking hash and weed and shit again, I feel like I should give him some shrooms if he wants them, but I doubt hed be ok, he has anxiety and panic attack issues, plus heart problems. When I was a kid he had freaked his shit and started hallucinating with "bhang" (look it up) and had to go to the hospital coz of heart palpitations.

I think its really quite nice to know that these experieces have definitely had an impact on our parents, and even though some of the them wont condone it, they can be quite helpful as sounding boards for us, helping us get beyond where they did with their experiences.

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