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simplystoned
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HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA.
#7431973 - 09/20/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Waha, hahaha, hahaha, hahahahahaha.
So my girlfriend's [stupid bitch] sister has been talking about the acid she can get for two months. "It's so good. so crazzzy". That bitch had never done acid, I could feel it in my bones. She told me who she was getting it from, turned out to be an old highschool buddy so I called him up. I asked him about his "acid", potentially going to buy some, and he informs me that it's LSA (seriously low doses a hit. The dude he was getting it from said it is split to be 3 hits for one regular LSA dose) and not only that but that he's been selling it to idiots for $20 a hit.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HA.
Anyone ever seen this before?
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7431986 - 09/20/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well a few people said they can get one drop up high potency for LSA, there was a butane extraction i think... The guy claims its all trip no body load, and its quite like LSD, i dont know of anyone whos done it though, i always wanted to get about 500 seeds to do an extraction (or some HBWR) like this, to put into liquid form thats strong enough to be taken by dropper
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: implee]
#7431995 - 09/20/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7077815 "This trip is excellent worth the effort to butane blast.. You can make it very potent if u really wanted, like a few drops will be full blown visions..."
Edited by implee (09/20/07 12:04 PM)
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7432081 - 09/20/07 12:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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 I couldn't imagine taking LSA and even remotely thinking it was LSD... perhaps if I had never had actual LSD though
an extraction is probably the only way I'd ever try LSA again I've eaten Hawaiian baby wood rose many times and a cold water extraction even tried the sublingual method with lemon juice (which barely worked at all) but it's never been too much of a "trip" for me..
the first time (when I doubted the seeds potency ) I just ate 10 seeds and i was pretty much couch-locked from the point they started kicking in extremely sedative.. kinda dreamy..
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7432113 - 09/20/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have done both as well. I would say if you eat enough seeds you might reach a smililar point but its harder to dose seeds I could never find the right amount to get me to trip and at the same time be aware of trippping I would always end up just taking a wild ass ride. I have never found a hallucinogen that matches LSD without a doubt.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: Walter1496211]
#7432133 - 09/20/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I forget which scientist said it, but they said extracted LSA is quite like LSD... Ill find the documents sometime, ive ate about 250 Heavenly blue before, and it has more of a body load, but it was still a bit like lsd, not exact though you know... Its hard to get past the sickness/bodyload
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: implee]
#7432192 - 09/20/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree LSA is the closest i have experienced to LSD. I think i have such a strong opinion about it because I had such a great experience usind LSD the first few times I can never go back though but someday.....
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7432221 - 09/20/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"Albert Hofmann claimed, after self-experiment, that LSA was a narcotic-sedative as much as a hallucinogen." Dale Pendell - Pharmako/Gnosis
and in my experience, even more so
I'm willing to bet that extracted LSA is a lot easier on the body though
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7432255 - 09/20/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would have to agree on the difference. LSD takes a larger toal on the body but on that same note the first time i took LSA i chewed up like 45 HBWD I was sick for a while its not like just taking a piece of paper and letting it dissolve. I have learned since then about extraction and what not but for a first time user with no brain its going to be painful.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: Walter1496211]
#7432277 - 09/20/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well if that guys no body load extraction DOES in fact work then it would be wonderful to grow heavinly blue in your back yard
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7432283 - 09/20/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The thread being referenced is about the conversion of some unstable and mildly active alkaloids in morning glories and hbwr (not necessarily LSA) to a much more acitve alkaloid. I think they were calling it LSH.
So this could be about an entirely different chemical, as there are lots of different ergot alkaloids in the seeds, some less psychedelic and some more.
I don't know why you're so positive about this (money-grubbing jackass) guy that you know who is ripping people off so badly. Isn't this kind of a problem with psychedelics lately? No one knows what they could be buying, especially if they've never tried it before, and your buddy is really doing his part...
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7432406 - 09/20/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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45 Hawaiian baby wood rose?!?! holy shit, man! i can't even imagine that... at that level, I bet you were incredibly fucking sick. Did you have to go the hospital or anything? That's an incredibly large dose. especially just munchin' 'em down. I would have thought that doses that high would be a really dangerous overdose.. toooo muuuch man. I noticed severe body load and trouble breathing from just 10 seeds... not to mention the joint soreness that follows the next day (however, stretching thoroughly before ingesting the seeds prevents it).
and I definitely agree that it's bullshit someone is trying to pass of LSA, or even "LSH" (with it being stronger supposedly), as LSD. If you're going to try to make money selling psychedelics, you... shouldn't. but at least let people know what the hell they're getting.
speaking of the "LSH"... I remember reading something about this a while back, but haven't heard anything else about it. I want to look into this more.
heh I tried growing some HWBR's in my backyard... too bad I planted the seedlings before the last frost... who knew that frost was coming though? Oh, damn! Georgia weather..
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7432473 - 09/20/07 01:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I gotta get some morning glory seed my past years ones didnt seem to germinate outside... We dont get much of a winter here in texas either.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: implee]
#7432486 - 09/20/07 01:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was threw up after 15 and again after 15 more and finaly after 45. So I dont think i really got the real affect of all of them I am just trying to say i was an idiot and did it wrong.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: Walter1496211]
#7432624 - 09/20/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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thank god your ok man, 10 is said to be TOO much i think some people only take 4 for a decent trip
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: implee]
#7433033 - 09/20/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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youre talking about grams right? because i couldnt imagine eating only 4 or 10 seeds, nor 45 actual grams of it. ive only ever tried it once and i ate about 250 but hardly felt anything at all. if i hadnt known i had just taken something i wouldnt have have realized i was on anything. i had a friend who tripped pretty hard off of them before but i cant remember how many he took and i really have no idea.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: elcharrosays]
#7433043 - 09/20/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your talking about morning glory not HBWR
Edited by implee (09/20/07 03:51 PM)
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: implee]
#7433054 - 09/20/07 03:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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4 HBWR = like 200 Morning Glory, it sounds like your morning glory were bad, or maybe your just a fat person -=\ its best to use new/fresh seeds, plus were they heavenly blue, flying saucers? what type of morning glory.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: elcharrosays]
#7433075 - 09/20/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This actually will work... I've kind of tried it, but didn't proceed with a second or third extraction. It did provide threshold effects however... as far as the OP goes, this is probably how it was made. LSA the Easy Way.. All Trip No Body Load - dmthead wrote this up.
I've had plenty of experiences with LSA - I'd say that with the above extraction method and a pretty high dose, it could be similar to LSD, but I doubt it. I've done a one week cold water extraction of 20 hbwr seeds and I've also eaten fifteen straight at my highest doses. let me tell ya, its nothing like LSD... not even close. I can't see how even ingesting pure LSA could touch what LSD has.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
#7433096 - 09/20/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would only do take LSA from an extraction now.
The body load is just fucking annoying.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: blacksun]
#7433113 - 09/20/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats why you gotta make LSH or whatever the no body load tek, ide like more people to try it, im to poor for seeds right now
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: blacksun]
#7433135 - 09/20/07 04:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I kind of like the body load sometimes... I dunno, it depends on what kind of mood I'm in. If I want to feel intoxicated and sedated more than tripping, I'll go for the cold water extraction or just eat them straight. It's really hard for me to eat them straight anymore.
A full extraction is kind of expensive for me though. I like to use a lot of seeds and buying 500+ hbwr seeds starts to close in on 200 bucks... but that is a lot of doses too I guess.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: KilroyMilosevik]
#7433162 - 09/20/07 04:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well if you grow it in your backyard on your fence or something, its not to expensive you know? Thats what i plan on doing if i ever extract.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: blacksun]
#7433976 - 09/20/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ah silly me. i havent ever done much research or even thought much about lsa. i pretty much thought hawaiin baby woodrose were just another type of morning glory.
the ones i had were heavenly blue. i went into a dollar store one day to have a look about and as soon as i walked in i saw a wall of seeds and i bought 50 packets for 5 bucks. they were so cheap i mean i couldnt just leave them be. more than likey youre right, they were just shit seeds. i only about 120 but for some reason i have a pretty high tolerance to just about everything except acid. not that im particularly vulnerable to acid, but it just hasnt disappointed me yet.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7434270 - 09/20/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Man, that kind of shit really pisses me off! Why not just be like, "Hey, want to buy some extracted LSA?" I'd probably buy that. Why lie and say that it's LSD?
I don't see how you could call the people who are buying it "idiots.¨ How would they know? Especially if they hadn't tried LSD before.
That's just really fucked up and sad in my opinion.
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: Ylluks]
#7434347 - 09/20/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I just have a strong distaste for her sister. She's an idiot for buying drugs from the dude in the first place... He's sketch (btw, not a friend, just someone i've known).
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: simplystoned]
#7434358 - 09/20/07 09:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oohhhhh, OK. Well in that case, LOLOLOLOLOLOO!L!L@L
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Re: HAHA Idiots buying/selling "LSD", turns out to be LSA. [Re: elcharrosays]
#7435927 - 09/21/07 10:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is wierd. I've always gotten good effects from heavenly blue packets. It is kind of a subtle trip however. It demands a lot of attention to properly develop, and a good amount of synergy. You NEED some pot, I think.
I hope you give them another shot, because nothing beats the availability of this plant...
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