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RogerRabbit
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Re: Giant fruits off of rye

[Re: GnuBobo]
#7431276 - 09/20/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Reishi fruits poorly off plain rye. Add about 20% sawdust if you're going to fruit right from the jars.
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figgusfiddus
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Re: Giant fruits off of rye

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#7431498 - 09/20/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Just my usual warning to take potency reports by substrate with a grain of salt. You don't have to use poo to make good shrooms. If anything, it's likely to make bigger shrooms, but only because it's got great moisture retention. Why do you think straw is the other big fruiter?

My most potent experience to date was from a BRF cake I fruited for fun. From the same strain, I've had weaker ones from BRF, from straw, wheat berries and from poo; and also very strong ones.

Shroom size is a huge, huge factor in potency, one that overshadows all others. I didn't used to think this was the case, but it's become obvious the more I've experimented with it that smaller shrooms are proportionally more potent.

That doesn't mean you shouldn't grow yours out, but don't expect them to be equal by mass. One 40g shroom will contain way more actives than one 10g shroom, but it won't contain 4x as many. That's all. Shift your dosage accordingly.

I actually think this fact could invalidate the classic Gartz study. If his tryptamine HCl additive caused a large number of aborts or generally undersized shrooms, it's no wonder they were more potent by mass.

In response to the main point in the original post, though, I have not noticed rye to be a big fruiter. It's got a lot of carbs, but it's just not that good of a moisture-holder. A good casing would fix this, of course, but I like to have a lot of my moisture in the substrate, not just on it, for safety.

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Edited by figgusfiddus (09/20/07 09:22 AM)