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By The Associated Press JENA, La. (AP) -- Prosecutors reduced the attempted murder charge against another of the "Jena Six," a group of black high school students whose criminal charges after the beating a white classmate drew protests of racism and unequal justice.
Robert Bailey Jr. pleaded not guilty Monday to aggravated battery and conspiracy to commit aggravated battery.
He was among five of the six teens originally charged as adults with attempted murder. The sixth was charged in juvenile court.
Mychal Bell, the only member of the "Jena Six" to be tried so far, was convicted of aggravated battery; the judge threw out his conspiracy conviction. Prosecutors also dropped the attempted murder account to battery last week in the cases of Carwin Jones and Theo Shaw when they were arraigned.
That left Bryant Purvis the only youth yet to be arraigned and still charged as an adult with attempted second-degree murder.
The victim of the Dec. 4 beating, Justin Barker, was treated at a hospital for injuries and released the same day. The motive for the attack was never established, but it came amid tense race relations in Jena, a mostly white town of 3,000 in north-central Louisiana. Three nooses had been hung in a tree at the school earlier, and the students involved were briefly suspended.
A conviction for attempted second-degree murder requires 10 to 50 years at hard labor without suspension, probation or parole. Aggravated battery can be punished with up to 15 years and a $10,000 fine.
Bell's attorney Bob Noel said he expects an appeals court to overturn his client's battery conviction.
He has accused LaSalle Parish District Attorney Reed Walters of using "bait-and-switch" tactics to try Bell as an adult. Under Louisiana law, a juvenile charged with aggravated battery may be charged as an adult only if the attack involved a firearm, but murder and attempted murder charges can be brought in adult court.
The Rev. Al Sharpton wrote to Gov. Kathleen Blanco and the state board of ethics on Monday asking for an investigation of the district attorney's actions in the case.
"The prosecutor from the beginning of this case has seemingly employed less than ethical and just legal tactics in over zealous attempts to have Mychal Bell unjustly convicted," Sharpton's letter said.
Sharpton, the Rev. Jesse Jackson and other black leaders have called for a rally in Jena on Sept. 20, the day of Bell's sentencing, to protest the teens' treatment.
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A story on Yahoo I read said that some kids hung nooses on a tree then a gang of 6 black guys jumped one white kid and beat him brutally.
Then I read a little more into it and it seems as though a lot more shit went down before that, a lot of racial tensions and the white kid was the one that instigated the fight in the first place. I'm thinking Yahoo might be a little racist :X
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Nickio]
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I read about this in July. Basically what happened is the whole fuckin area is racist including the principal (who did some racist things) the white kids hung nooses so the black kids got scared/pissed off. The white kids beat up some black kids. One white kid brought out a shotgun and a black kid took it from him(self defense) but HE was the one who was blamed. the whole goddam thing makes me sick
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Well, I wasn't there so I don't know what happened. But, here's how I understand things:
1. Some white kids hung the nooses on a tree. 2. Black kids got pissed off and brutally beat a white kid. 3. Sharpton opens his big fucking mouth and tries to get leniency for the black kids.
In my opinion the white kids should be charged with some type of racial intimidation. BUT, the black kids should be tried for the very serious charge of battery and maybe even attempted murder. What the white kids did wasn't right but the black kids' crime was much more severe as it involved violence.
And of course Sharpton swoops down like a fucking vulture because he likes getting his name in the paper. That piece of shit race-baiting demagogue scumbag who incites the black community to continually play the victim is a tumor.
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if nickio is right in saying that the white kid instigated the fight, then i think the black kids really should only be tried for battery. Obviously it's not cool to have a 6 on 1 fight, but if that 1 is an ignorant redneck brandishing a shotgun, then i start to feel a bit more empathetic for the defendants.
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It was a fucking fight.
Is there anyone here who DIDNT see a fight in high school?
ANYONE?
Did anyone in the fight get charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER?
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'The trouble started under “the white tree” in front of Jena High School. The “white tree” is where the white students, 80% of the student body, would always sit during school breaks.
In September 2006, a black student at Jena high school asked permission from school administrators to sit under the “white tree.” School officials advised them to sit wherever they wanted. They did. The next day, three nooses, in the school colors, were hanging from the “white tree.” The message was clear. “Those nooses meant the KKK, they meant ‘Niggers, we’re going to kill you, we’re going to hang you till you die,’” Casteptla Bailey, mom of one of the students, told the London Observer.
The Jena high school principal found that three white students were responsible and recommended expulsion. The white superintendent of schools over-ruled the principal and gave the students a three day suspension saying that the nooses were just a youthful stunt. “Adolescents play pranks,” the superintendent told the Chicago Tribune, “I don’t think it was a threat against anybody.”'
'Jena is the site of the infamous Juvenile Correctional Center for Youth that was forced to close its doors in 2000, only two years after opening, due to widespread brutality and racism including the choking of juveniles by guards after the youth met with a lawyer. The U.S. Department of Justice sued the private prison amid complaints that guards paid inmates to fight each other and laughed when teens tried to commit suicide.
Black students decided to resist and organized a sit-in under the “white tree” at the school to protest the light suspensions given to the noose-hanging white students.
The white District Attorney then came to Jena High with law enforcement officers to address a school assembly. According to testimony in a later motion in court, the DA reportedly threatened the black protesting students saying that if they didn’t stop making a fuss about this “innocent prank… I can be your best friend or your worst enemy. I can take away your lives with a stroke of my pen.” The school was put on lockdown for the rest of the week.
Racial tensions remained high throughout the fall.
On the night of Thursday November 30, 2006, a still unsolved fire burned down the main academic building of Jena High School.
On Friday night, December 1, a black student who showed up at a white party was beaten by whites. On Saturday, December 2, a young white man pulled out a shotgun in a confrontation with young black men at the Gotta Go convenience store outside Jena before the men wrestled it away from him. The black men who took the shotgun away were later arrested, no charges were filed against the white man.
On Monday, December 4, at Jena High, a white student – who allegedly had been making racial taunts, including calling African American students “niggers” while supporting the students who hung the nooses and who beat up the black student at the off-campus party – was knocked down, punched and kicked by black students. The white victim was taken to the hospital treated and released. He attended a social function that evening.
Six black Jena students were arrested and charged with attempted second degree murder. All six were expelled from school. '
These are the main points. The full text can be found at http://www.freethejenasix.com/
I know that site is biased, but if these are the true accounts at what happened, it really is bullshit. It's fucking stupid that the law system is racist in this way, everyone should get a sentencing according to what their crime was. That includes the blacks.
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Nickio]
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Oh it also says that the white guys got charged for what they needed to be charged with. So I suppose the black guys just need to be charged with battery and let this shit be over with, this is ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if we see some crazy shit go down soon. BTW theres no doubt that town is racist, look at this quote I found by one of the white townspeople...
'One person even said “We don’t have many problems with our blacks.”'
YOUR blacks? wow.
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tiny_rabid_birds said: if nickio is right in saying that the white kid instigated the fight, then i think the black kids really should only be tried for battery. Obviously it's not cool to have a 6 on 1 fight, but if that 1 is an ignorant redneck brandishing a shotgun, then i start to feel a bit more empathetic for the defendants.
Well, if that is true it changes things. If the white kid brandished a shotgun and instigated the encounter then the black kids' reaction could be seen as justifiable self-defense.
However, my whole point in all of this is that our examinations of this incident should be color-blind. Let's examine the facts of what happened and punish those involved accordingly. But, Sharpton plays the race card (as always). It's this kind of "victim mentality" that causes seperatism and division between the races which leads to this kind of tension in the first place.
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Nickio]
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okay. wow. the fucker who was "brutally assaulted" was out of the hospital and at a party that same day? that's just bullshit. i was under the assumption that he at least had a few broken bones and was laid up in the hospital, if not in critical condition. madtowntripper is right, any criminal charges in this are fucking ridiculous. and the blatant racism is astounding.
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I'm fine w/ battery.
But not attempted murder, which is the charge, no?
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Nickio]
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Nickio said: 'One person even said “We don’t have many problems with our blacks.”'
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Madtowntripper said: I'm fine w/ battery.
But not attempted murder, which is the charge, no?
originally, but it was dropped. now it is just second degree battery and conspiracy.
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However, my whole point in all of this is that our examinations of this incident should be color-blind. Let's examine the facts of what happened and punish those involved accordingly. But, Sharpton plays the race card (as always). It's this kind of "victim mentality" that causes seperatism and division between the races which leads to this kind of tension in the first place.
Aren't you making the assumption that race WASN'T an issue? If the DA is a racist pig, then whats the harm in calling a spade a spade?
Assuming that just because Sharpton is saying this whole thing is racially motivated, that it ISNT racially motivated is asinine. Its not about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or the KKK. Its about 6 high-school kids who are going to go to PRISON for MANY YEARS, for a high-school fight.
That *IS* injustice, no matter who decries it.
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Re: Jena Six [Re: JT]
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what's the evidence for the conspiracy charge?
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justin_thyme said: originally, but it was dropped. now it is just second degree battery and conspiracy.
Conspiracy to whoop some honkey ass.
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but did they actually conspire? i was under the impression that it was a crime of passion, incited by the dumbass making racist comments.
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I'm assuming for 6 people to get together and commit a crime, there has to be some kind of planning, yes?
Like I say, I dont have a problem w/ an assault charge. I dont think anyone can argue that it WASNT an assault, whether it was brought on by the actions of the white kids or not is irrelevant.
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Madtowntripper said: If the DA is a racist pig, then whats the harm in calling a spade a spade?
If the DA is shown to have engaged in some type of misconduct he should be removed.
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Madtowntripper said: Assuming that just because Sharpton is saying this whole thing is racially motivated, that it ISNT racially motivated is asinine.
Imagine the racial roles reversed. What if white kids had been trying to sit in the black area and the black kids did some racist shit. Then a fight broke out between six white kids and one black kid. Who's side would Sharpton be on? Hm...not hard to tell in that situation because the man is biased.
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Madtowntripper said: Its not about Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or the KKK.
Exactly. But, Sharpton tries to make himself a part of this shit. He swoops in like a hawk to stir up trouble and play the race card. The guy is a scumbag.
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Madtowntripper said: Its about 6 high-school kids who are going to go to PRISON for MANY YEARS, for a high-school fight.
It matters what the circumstances of the fight were. Was it just a scrap and the white kid wasn't hurt much? Did the white kid end up in a coma and in intensive care? Did the white kid really instigate things with a gun? All of these details will have a bearing on what these black kids should be charged with and how they should be punished.
In my opinion, if it's just some minor high school scrap then it's no big deal. The black kids should get maybe 20 hours of community service or something.
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Madtowntripper said: I'm assuming for 6 people to get together and commit a crime, there has to be some kind of planning, yes?
did they actually "get together and commit a crime", or were they just hanging out together when the white kid started some shit? if it's the latter, then that doesn't seem like conspiracy to me - it wasn't premeditative, it wasn't like "okay, we'll wait for him over there and jump him.. you take the torso, i'll take the head".
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NO NO NO NO NO. NO. RF, you clearly don't understand the facts of the case and are operating on assumption/generalization.
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1. Some white kids hung the nooses on a tree.
Because a black kid tried to sit there. Those white kids deserve an ass beating, just too bad it didn't come from their parents. The principal recommended that the three students be expelled. I am not sure that this is an overreaction to what could be interpreted as a death threat. But the school superintendant decided a three day suspension would suffice.
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Yes. Depending on "brutal." The white kid was sent to an ER was he was treated for a concussion.
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You are missing the fundamental point of the story, which is that the DA had all six of the black kids involved in the beating charged with attempted murder and conspiracy to commit murder. For a beating? That the superintendant would write off the hanging of nooses as "a childish stunt" (actual quote) and the ensuing, much deserved beat down comes with a charge of attempted murder and a 100 year prison sentence for a bunch of 16 year olds should strike you as unjust.
Yes, Al Sharpton got involved and is trying to get leniency on the charge of murder. Those murdering adolescents deserve life sentences.
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BUT, the black kids should be tried for the very serious charge of battery and maybe even attempted murder. What the white kids did wasn't right but the black kids' crime was much more severe as it involved violence.
Well, I guess you are entitled to your opinion. But I think it is insane that every time a fight breaks out in school someone should get charged with attempted murder. Because that is what you are suggesting.
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And of course Sharpton swoops down like a fucking vulture because he likes getting his name in the paper. That piece of shit race-baiting demagogue scumbag who incites the black community to continually play the victim is a tumor.
You can hate Shaprton all you want but in this case he is correct. The DA's charges against the Jena six are unforgivable, and has turned the boys into victims of the justice system.
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Nickio]
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Nickio said: A story on Yahoo I read said that some kids hung nooses on a tree then a gang of 6 black guys jumped one white kid and beat him brutally.
Then I read a little more into it and it seems as though a lot more shit went down before that, a lot of racial tensions and the white kid was the one that instigated the fight in the first place. I'm thinking Yahoo might be a little racist :X
First off, Yahoo never writes their own articles. They just post other people's (nothing wrong with that.) This particular article is from an AP writer. Secondly, I think this article seems to stay pretty unbiased one way or the other. Just tells what happened, not whether it's right or wrong.
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RandalFlagg said: In my opinion, if it's just some minor high school scrap then it's no big deal. The black kids should get maybe 20 hours of community service or something.
Six black students were charged with attempted second-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder, on charges that leave them facing between twenty and one hundred years in jail. The defendants, ranging in age from fifteen to seventeen, had their bonds set at between $70,000 and $138,000.
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/07/10/1413220
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tiny_rabid_birds said: if nickio is right in saying that the white kid instigated the fight, then i think the black kids really should only be tried for battery. Obviously it's not cool to have a 6 on 1 fight, but if that 1 is an ignorant redneck brandishing a shotgun, then i start to feel a bit more empathetic for the defendants.
Well, if that is true it changes things. If the white kid brandished a shotgun and instigated the encounter then the black kids' reaction could be seen as justifiable self-defense.
However, my whole point in all of this is that our examinations of this incident should be color-blind. Let's examine the facts of what happened and punish those involved accordingly. But, Sharpton plays the race card (as always). It's this kind of "victim mentality" that causes seperatism and division between the races which leads to this kind of tension in the first place.
In this case he has the right to. I'll let alone the fact that we can't really examine this whilst being color-blind, since it's completely race motivated.
The fact of the matter is some kid got his ass whooped at school, and now the kids who whooped his ass are (or were) getting charged with attempted murder? Please, that's fucking ridiculous. Maybe you guys didn't go to high school, but shit like that would result in a suspension, maybe get you expelled if you were known as a trouble maker. To get tried as an adult for attempted murder is ridiculous.
Not to mention if it were six white kids beating up another white kid, it sure as fuck wouldn't a) get this much attention (since it wouldn't be a story at all) and b) Result in charges of attempted murder.
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jewunit said: Not to mention if it were six white kids beating up another white kid, it sure as fuck wouldn't a) get this much attention (since it wouldn't be a story at all) and b) Result in charges of attempted murder.
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RandalFlagg said: It matters what the circumstances of the fight were. Was it just a scrap and the white kid wasn't hurt much? Did the white kid end up in a coma and in intensive care? Did the white kid really instigate things with a gun? All of these details will have a bearing on what these black kids should be charged with and how they should be punished.
In my opinion, if it's just some minor high school scrap then it's no big deal. The black kids should get maybe 20 hours of community service or something.
Read the other shit Nickio posted. The kid was out of the hospital that night attending a "social event."
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be careful, you might get charged with attempted murder
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Re: Jena Six [Re: jewunit]
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Then I read a little more into it and it seems as though a lot more shit went down before that, a lot of racial tensions and the white kid was the one that instigated the fight in the first place. I'm thinking Yahoo might be a little racist :X
First off, Yahoo never writes their own articles. They just post other people's (nothing wrong with that.) This particular article is from an AP writer. Secondly, I think this article seems to stay pretty unbiased one way or the other. Just tells what happened, not whether it's right or wrong.
That is precisely the reason I posted the AP Version, it is unbiased, and simply relays the facts. There are a number of versions out there that have bias one way or the other, but the AP is always nothing, but facts. I believe making an informed decision is the only decision one should make on any issue, and every issue should be explored from a nuetral stand point.
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What the white kids did wasn't right, and should be change by the law. But, to have six kids beat on one kid isn't right ether and should be change as much as the law will allow.
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ok, i dont like al sharpton either
but its funny how you just start running your mouth about this being fake bullshit outrage, and al sharpton trying to get attention when you dont even know what exactly went down... the white kids were clearly instigating all of this, and deserved a beat down.. and the da is just a piece of shit
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Brainiac]
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what do you mean "should be change by the law"?
and no, of course 6 on 1 isn't a fair fight. but as it's already been stated, the situation was already a boiling pot rife with strife ready to spill over. the stupid white kid shouldn't have made ignorant racist remarks, especially given the recent circumstances, knowing full well that tempers were already high and that he was shit-talking to 6 very angry guys.
honestly, it is in my opinion that the fuckhead got what was coming to him. and given that this was a high school brawl and the victim did not even sustain any serious injuries, i don't think that any serious charges need be pressed. i think the suggestion of 20 community service hours apiece was fair.
the fact that they even attempted to have these kids tried as adults for attempted murder is just fucking ludicrous.
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Whatever the reason, I'm happy to see harsh penalties given to people who inflict violence on others.
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Whatever the reason, I'm happy to see harsh penalties given to people who inflict violence on others.
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Re: Jena Six [Re: Brainiac]
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I can't fucking believe how racist this whole situation is.
Those black kids are getting screwed over for being proud of who they are.
An asswhooping amongst teens is a completely natural thing.. its part of life. Just cause there was 6 of them present, doesn't mean that all 6 of them stood there kicking the shit out of the white guy.
I've been in fights before where I've had a group of guys jump me.. it happens. Its part of growing up. I ended up with black eyes and some bruises. These fucking hicks are suing these black dudes simply because of the social segregation white culture instills upon us from a young age.
Man this shit is really fucked up.
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bug said: Regardless, it happens all the time. Even the knocked unconscious part. And the usual result is suspension or expulsion from school.
I knew two kids who beat a kid within an inch of his life. I met them at teen court, where they were sentenced to a few hours of community service and a year of classes in conflict resolution.
Do you honestly think it's just for these kids to have their lives taken away from them over this? Maybe you can't imagine how threatening it would feel to have nooses hanging around your school's campus with the message aimed at you. Not to mention that they were provoked by their attacker, who was armed. I'm not justifying their actions, but most reasonable people would conclude that the 'justice' they're receiving has everything to do with their location and the color of their skin.
I honestly don't care if it's fair for those kids to have their lives taken away for this. I want the removed from society because they are prone to violence and will continue to be throughout their lives.
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I knew two kids who beat a kid within an inch of his life. I met them at teen court, where they were sentenced to a few hours of community service and a year of classes in conflict resolution.
Do you honestly think it's just for these kids to have their lives taken away from them over this? Maybe you can't imagine how threatening it would feel to have nooses hanging around your school's campus with the message aimed at you. Not to mention that they were provoked by their attacker, who was armed. I'm not justifying their actions, but most reasonable people would conclude that the 'justice' they're receiving has everything to do with their location and the color of their skin.
I honestly don't care if it's fair for those kids to have their lives taken away for this. I want the removed from society because they are prone to violence and will continue to be throughout their lives.
More then likely those kids are going to end up in jail, anyway .
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Re: Jena Six [Re: jewunit]
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jewunit said: The fact of the matter is some kid got his ass whooped at school, and now the kids who whooped his ass are (or were) getting charged with attempted murder? Please, that's fucking ridiculous. Maybe you guys didn't go to high school, but shit like that would result in a suspension, maybe get you expelled if you were known as a trouble maker. To get tried as an adult for attempted murder is ridiculous.
Yeah this is very true. I was in quite a few fights back in high school. The last one I remember I think we both got suspended for 3 days a piece. Both myself and the other kid really beat the fuck out of each other too, it wasn't some lame half assed fight that got broke up in 10 seconds. Honestly I can't fathom how/why these kids are being charged with attempted murder.
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Whatever the reason, I'm happy to see harsh penalties given to people who inflict violence on others.
It would be completely different if it was adults involved; we learn to be pacifists after our experience of violence in our youth. Its a natural primal instinct.
Now you cannot tell me you were never in a fight as a youth. It is part of growing up.
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prone to violence? because of one fight? give me a fucking break. one fight amongst adolescent boys does not equate being "prone to violence".
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Pssst.....I think he's a racist.
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RandalFlagg said: Well, if that is true it changes things. If the white kid brandished a shotgun and instigated the encounter then the black kids' reaction could be seen as justifiable self-defense.
actually what I read states that the white with gun was subdued, relieved of the weapon and they (the blacks) were charged, a second kid (or second event/same kid) was calling them names and got his ass whipped, the site nicko cited seems pretty biased, reports I've heard was the kid was beaten pretty badly
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Re: Jena Six [Re: pB0t]
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what's this about head stomping? none of the articles i read mentioned any head stomping.
which news source did you read that from? i'd like to check it out.
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RandalFlagg said: Sharpton opens his big fucking mouth and tries to get leniency for the black kids. And of course Sharpton swoops down like a fucking vulture because he likes getting his name in the paper. That piece of shit race-baiting demagogue scumbag who incites the black community to continually play the victim is a tumor.
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well that's the thing, the testimonies of eye-witnesses differ by race. the white kids say the attackers kept kicking the shit out of him once he was down, the black kids say they stopped.
i didn't read anything about head stomping though. a couple kicks to the face, sure, given that he had a black eye, but head stomping generally results in death. and it seems like they couldn't even have kicked his face that many times because he didn't even come away with a broken nose. just some bruises, a swollen eye, and a concussion.
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