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protector
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ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida
#7430658 - 09/19/07 11:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm new at this and don't want to get sick. I'm working on my first printing right now and will put it up tommorow after work. They came from a cow field and I realllly hope they are good ones. I haven't had them in so long.


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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: protector]
#7430667 - 09/19/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not cubes, not actives, ive seen those before, your looking for something with purple gills, more golden cap, and bruise blue. The ones I seen like those dont even come out of dung.
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PSiFr33k
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: protector]
#7430668 - 09/19/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some species of Lepitoita, Not active , dont think its toxic but not edible either, trash em
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7430714 - 09/20/07 12:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is Chlorophyllum molybdites. If you eat them you will get extremely sick.
You won't die, but you will wish you had for a couple days.
> Some species of Lepitoita, Not active , dont think its toxic but not edible either
Many species of Lepiota contain deadly amatoxins.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#7430737 - 09/20/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i said i dont think its toxic , and no those arent molybdites the gills on his pic are bruised light brown .. not green .. those are some sort of lepoita.. so stop trying to correct everyone on every single id . i told him i didnt think they were toxic but they deff werent edible.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7430813 - 09/20/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> i said i dont think its toxic , and no those arent molybdites the gills on his pic are bruised light brown.
You are right, its Lepiota rachodes.
Sorry for doubting you.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431038 - 09/20/07 04:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, they ARE Green Gills.
Those are definitely Chlorophyllum molybdites, Look at the gills again- they are green:
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: CureCat]
#7431058 - 09/20/07 04:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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They look like all the green gills ive seen in pastures..
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: implee]
#7431111 - 09/20/07 04:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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my bad i dont see any green might be my contrast settings or sumthing ..
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431113 - 09/20/07 04:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wait no . doesnt look very green .. protector could u take a spore print for giggles?
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protector
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431313 - 09/20/07 07:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow you guys are awesome, thank you. The spore print looked yellow although the paper was not dry, it was definitely stained yellow. When I pinched the stems, it seemed to turn brown. The cap had some faint bluish green around the gills, but barely noticeable.
Although heartbreaking, I threw them in the trash this morning. Tonight I am going to bring a bag and grab a bunch, specifically looking for cubes. I didn't want to get caught so I grabbed the largest ones I could see in the pitch black field. Is it typical that many different species will grow in one field or will one "take over"? Should I find a better field. It seems that finding a safe and accessible spot is difficult, this is right near my house. Thanks for your help guys.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: protector]
#7431336 - 09/20/07 07:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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no worries about what you find in the field hundreds of species co-exist with each other , and the lepoita/Chloro whatever it is , is going to be present in most every field you hunt , keep looking , youll find them cubies.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431578 - 09/20/07 10:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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psifr33k, how often have you found Green Gills??
I ask, because to anyone who has seen thousands upon thousands in almost every habitat imagineable, these are C. molybdites.
Also, look at this comparison of the pileus scales of C. molybdites, and C. rhacodes (previously Macrolepiota rhacodes):

They Green Gills are the bottom set.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: CureCat]
#7431592 - 09/20/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ive found hundreds in multiple states ... my only argument was the fact that every green gill ive seen with the gills extremely damage and bruised showed extreme green bruising , the gills on these mushies just look brownish tan. and arent Greengill spores white?
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431606 - 09/20/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, C. molybdites has green spores. YESSUP had a really good photo of a print.... ah, found it:
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YESSUP said:
Anyway, I have found many Green Gills, with stark white gills, generally at younger stages of maturity. To me, the gill shot posted is green. It is also brown, but that is consistent with MANY of the Green Gills I have ever encountered. Not all turn green, until they are old and rotting, by which point they are brown/black/green.
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: CureCat]
#7431635 - 09/20/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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kool , like i said im not argueing , they probably are , but old dude said they were yellow spored and the bruising looked brown to me , thanks for sharing your knowledge tho cure.
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protector
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: CureCat]
#7431654 - 09/20/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So I should be looking for strictly purpleish bruising with dark gills? I guess the top should be goldish orange with a smoother top and no scales. Oh and should I wash them before ID? Is that the right way?
Edited by protector (09/20/07 10:36 AM)
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: protector]
#7431738 - 09/20/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Caps look for the golden faded yellow, sometimes theres sporeso on top or a bit of water damage, so they can be blue/black and yellow also.
   
  
 The caps can be more domed or more flat
     
  

It will also have a veil sometimes bigger sometimes almost absent, on top it should be purpleish black from spores being dropped
  

Spore print purplish black

Now bruising, this is the key thing here, cut the stem in half, in a few minutes it should turn green/blue (i really need to get better bruising pictures some time...)

Edited by implee (09/20/07 10:59 AM)
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: protector]
#7431740 - 09/20/07 10:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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no sir , you are looking for mushrooms with orange fading to white caps , purplish gills , veil remnant that is purple, blue bruising , and growing directly from cow dung, no washing , and your looking for purple spore print
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Re: ID Request, from cow pasture in central Florida [Re: PSiFr33k]
#7431756 - 09/20/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks guys, I can't wait to get out of work and start looking. I'll report back. Oh and those pictures are AWESOME!
Edited by protector (09/20/07 11:04 AM)
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