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JSshroom
dont be paranoid, just aware


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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: mycocurious]
#7431866 - 09/20/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is a minorly absurd argument. If you get contamed jars just pc for 30 minutes or so and dispose of the contents outside. Scrub your jars and I put warm water, and a tablespoon of bleach in them for a bit. Wash and re-load and it has never contamed. If jars are left for X amount of time they will re-contaminate. Whether it be the same mold, or bacteria. Without FAE then the bad stuff just comes back. We are huge vectors in contamination. The biggest imo so to say that bringing spores inside from jars. Implying that the house is not already full of those spores from the prior contam issue. Some info supplied by the TMC
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CaptainLinger
A Fungus Amongus


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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: JSshroom]
#7432006 - 09/20/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I doubt I have allergies...and the longer I go the less I think I got exposed to spores, more just a nasty illness. I'm pretty okay now...and might've gotten it from other sources. I simultaneously had an outbreak of pin mold in some jars (might've shaken 1 or 2 out indoors), and then a mysterious, rapidly spreading black affliction.
Turns out it was contaminant mushrooms; Coprinus spp sporulating before I ever noticed it present.
JSshroom, that's simply incorrect. *ALL* mold spores will be killed by PCing; they're dead, and won't reform. I'm not sure what your point is; you still don't want to exponentially increase the spore count in your house.
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JSshroom
dont be paranoid, just aware


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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7615297 - 11/09/07 01:27 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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well when I pc a jar and dump it outside after it has cooled. It plops out without spores going everywhere. If you want to try it. You can get a contamed jar, PC it, if it re-contams in a week then thats my point. If I am wrong then Damn. info taken from personal experience and TMC. To say that at 90PC everything is dead is incorrect IMO. Endospores perhaps, but I have also had jars that I PC'd and knocked up with a solution that did not take. Nothing grew at all. I dont throw good jars away. Lids can be cleaned as well. It would be a pima pain in my ass to have to re-machine lids every time a contam happens. which is 1 in 100 jars or more so in bags as I have not mastered them yet
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fastfred
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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: JSshroom]
#7616542 - 11/09/07 07:26 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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> should I exercise caution in trashing them?
For sure. There are plenty of ways to do it. Probably the best way is to open them underwater using a 10% bleach solution.
I wouldn't worry about mushroom lung though. That usually happens at massive mushroom farms where workers are breathing extremely high spore counts for 40+ hours/wk.
-FF
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milkman
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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: fastfred]
#7616744 - 11/09/07 08:25 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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what i like to do with my contamed jars is let them colonize as much as they can then strip to my undies run out back with a little alcohol solution and dump them near a old cow poo i dumped out there then before i come back in side i wipe myself down
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BlargIAmDead
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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been PC'd? [Re: milkman]
#7616765 - 11/09/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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That almost sounds like some festivals I've seen. "Awright, now whatcha gonna do is strip bare ass naked an run thru this corn field here. Make sure to get chur three whiskey shot min'mum for ya do."
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Firewolf1327
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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been Pressure Cooked? [Re: dumbfounded1600]
#7617070 - 11/09/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
dumbfounded1600 said: THE SHIT IS SO TOXIC IT IS MORE LETHAL THEN BLEACH AND AMMONIA MIXED...
WHAT I WOULD DO IS MAKE A BLEACH/WATER SOLUTION IN AN EMPTY WIN DEX BOTTLE...
Knowing that you never mix chlorine and ammonia because of the noxious gas created, why would you ever tell someone to bother with this possibly disastrous concoction? I don't care how much you try to rinse the windex bottle...
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JSshroom
dont be paranoid, just aware


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Re: Are spores dangerous after they've been Pressure Cooked? [Re: Firewolf1327]
#7619315 - 11/10/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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