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The Irony of it all
    #7429062 - 09/19/07 05:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Have you noticed those moments of understanding that fulfill your life at that moment, but later slip away into a memory that is as faint as 5 minutes ago? It's impossible to remember the lessons always. Sometimes we are reminded of them but as always...they slip on down the drain and we go back to our neural programmed way of living and doing. We eat, we work, we sleep, we think about the same things, and then we complain.

We complain that we aren't wealthy enough. Sometimes we cry out to this invisible "god" in a fit of self-pity thinking we can somehow summon a genie to solve all our problems.

And yet, we continue to disregard the same thing that brings us these futile feelings. We are positively the rash of the planet earth. Slowly and surely we continue to destroy it. Disregarding the damage we do to it completely arrogantly. Forget that the hole in the ozone layer over anartica is twice the original size. Until it reaches the tip of south america and africa and australia... We know full well we are destroying the life cycle of the earth, and we continue, in our greed, our arrogance, our ignorance. Unlike the sheppards we are meant to be to this world as the bible intreprets human beings, we are taking advantage of it and all it's beauty.

Eating lunch with my father this evening, I came to an epiphany. The way we treat this world right now, we are nothing but a virus to it. We consume every natural resource available that is given us, and we move on.

Nowhere is this more noticable then in human nature. As we discuessed the advantages of taking payments instead of the lump sum ( the florida lottery ), I came to more conclusions. That our inherited nature is to consume and destroy, to manipulate to our cravings. The cravings, they control us. Drugs, sex, money, you name it. All human movement in most ways is bent torwards those three things in particular.

But we are not satisfied with it once we even have it. Example being; some of the people that have won the lottery have said that the most happiest times of their lives were when they had nothing.

YET, here I sit, wishing i could win the lottery and have all the money in the world.

This in full knowledge that it will not make ME happy, only MY craving. Only my neural programmed way of living my life as a human being. Give me all that money and I will find more shit to whine to about. "Oh the ferrari needs to be washed, why must it need to be washed everyday" Something as small as this will in time be just as much a nuisance a craving as the craving I once had for the money.

Likewise, relationships go hand in hand with our carnivorous instincts. Theres a saying that goes

"The single person wishes they had a partner. The taken person wishes they was single"

Endless cravings for substances that can not satisfy a never ending craving for more and more. And when we have that more, we want more or we want things the way they were. A sick person realizes more then anyone, just how precious life is. What a truly sick person wouldn't give just to have their health and to just feel "normal" whilst we sit here and bitch about how the car in front of us is going to slow.

We are pathetic mentally. Yet we are great. We dominate this world, no one and nothing has ever caused any kind of competition for us. And likewise darwinism, it has taken over. The strong have survived.

You must decide at every moment that you will never be happy with substance. It will put you down an endless trail for fulfillment that cannot be fulfilled. Open the eyes. Let the light shine through.

For you are already blessed.


Edited by suave (09/19/07 05:09 PM)


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: suave]
    #7429351 - 09/19/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:heart: Thanks


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: suave]
    #7429415 - 09/19/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

forgive me if I'm reading this wrong/putting words in your mouth, but...

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We complain that we aren't wealthy enough. Sometimes we cry out to this invisible "god" in a fit of self-pity thinking we can somehow summon a genie to solve all our problems.




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We know full well we are destroying the life cycle of the earth, and we continue, in our greed, our arrogance, our ignorance. Unlike the sheppards we are meant to be to this world as the bible intreprets human beings, we are taking advantage of it and all it's beauty.




...how do these two statements work together?


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: demiu5]
    #7429494 - 09/19/07 06:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thank you for a great post.

I loved your point about drugs, sex, money being our basic motivation to action. Unfortunately I almost agree 100%.

There is a DVD called Inner Journey: A Spirited Conversation About Self-discovery. Prem Rawat is the main focus. It speaks exactly about what you wrote, how we are thirsty creatures, but the fulfillment is already inside of us.

amazon link to DVD


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: ShroomFan]
    #7429763 - 09/19/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It speaks exactly about what you wrote, how we are thirsty creatures, but the fulfillment is already inside of us.






Ommmmm! Find your inner Big Gulp.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: demiu5]
    #7429839 - 09/19/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Here is some serious ironying:



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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7429856 - 09/19/07 08:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I remember when people would be banned in here for making posts with no substance/nothing to contribute :frown:


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: demiu5]
    #7429872 - 09/19/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You mean like this low calorie post: "I remember when people would be banned in here for making posts with no substance/nothing to contribute," ?


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7429899 - 09/19/07 08:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

shall we keep going? :wink:

aha!


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: demiu5]
    #7430675 - 09/19/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nah, you win. :sun:


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7430950 - 09/20/07 03:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Human nature is not to destroy, to lust, or to create.

Human nature is to be content. We have a hole in our chest and we are constantly shoving things in it to see if they fill it, but they never truly do. It's not that we can't be content we just don't know what makes us content, that's why as humans we need to explore ourselves deeply to find how we can complete ourselves. I'm not talking about physical, or emotional ties to something, I'm talking about intentionally altering your personality. Purposefully elevating yourself.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #7430959 - 09/20/07 03:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Being content is the attitude of an extinct or dying species. You are connecting to us here because someone was NOT CONTENT with the older ways of communicating.

Creating brings contentment - for a moment - then the next step beckons. We are being pulled inexorably forward and there is nothing anti-spiritual in that. It is our destiny calling. :yesnod:


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7431250 - 09/20/07 06:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

But having desire to be content is the whole reason our species has done so well. Because we are never content so we are always pushing into new boundaries, looking for things to cure us of our 'lust disease'.

I change my statement in that human nature is not to be content, but to seek to become content.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: suave]
    #7431264 - 09/20/07 06:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Whats all this "we" nonsense, Im very happy and content.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7431427 - 09/20/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Creating brings contentment - for a moment - then the next step beckons. We are being pulled inexorably forward and there is nothing anti-spiritual in that. It is our destiny calling. :yesnod:




Change is inevitable in every moment, and, in every moment, we make a choice as to how we will interact with reality, how we will be. Feeling satisfied doesn't change this. Experiencing a continual state of satisfaction and fufillment does not mean that one becomes static - it is impossible. I'm completely satisfied with my life in this present moment, even as I make choices that lead the course of my life further, even as I hold preferences as to how I seek for my life to unfold, an outlook for the future. Contentment makes the process of being a conduit of change and evolution more effective and brings the experience thereof to contain amazing quality. :mushroom2:


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: suave]
    #7431858 - 09/20/07 11:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)


Have you noticed those moments of understanding that fulfill your life at that moment, but later slip away into a memory that is as faint as 5 minutes ago?


DJ would answer this by saying the reason is because there was not true understanding but rather an emotional outburst; not a true movement of the assemblage point.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: blewmeanie]
    #7431863 - 09/20/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Whats all this "we" nonsense, Im very happy and content.




This is temporary I guarantee you.:rofl2:


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: Icelander]
    #7435568 - 09/21/07 07:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Icelander said:
Quote:

blewmeanie said:
Whats all this "we" nonsense, Im very happy and content.




This is temporary I guarantee you.:rofl2:





lol yes, a statement like that shows lack of knowledge or initiative. For any person to cry out that they are content with their life is the defense of the persons ego. Human nature is to seek contentment, while at the same we know that the human ego cannot become content because it is like a black hole, for it has no bottom nor top, it simply is.

A person can sit here and say that he is happy in and of the moment. But they aren't happy. They are simply in a good mood at that moment ( all ego ). Their programming has them in "happy" mood ( ego ). YOU, YOURSELF ( other words, your spirit, not your ego ) is a never changing state of being, you are neither happy nor sad nor angry, you simply are. Your FEELINGS on the other hand....

I hope this makes sense to you because there is a ginormous difference.


To the person that quoted me on the god parts: I never said I didn't believe in god. My interpretation of him/it/her is that he/she/it is vastly misunderstood.


What a fool one is to say that they "know" how they feel with their life. NO NO No.... you base how you feel on how your EGO feels about it. You yourself has no changes ever made to your mood. The arrogance of it even reveals itself openly when such a statement is made like "whats all this "we" nonsense, im very happy and content", which is a cry of defense straight out of a persons ego.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: demiu5]
    #7435570 - 09/21/07 07:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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demius said:
forgive me if I'm reading this wrong/putting words in your mouth, but...

Quote:

We complain that we aren't wealthy enough. Sometimes we cry out to this invisible "god" in a fit of self-pity thinking we can somehow summon a genie to solve all our problems.




Quote:

We know full well we are destroying the life cycle of the earth, and we continue, in our greed, our arrogance, our ignorance. Unlike the sheppards we are meant to be to this world as the bible intreprets human beings, we are taking advantage of it and all it's beauty.




...how do these two statements work together?





They aren't supposed to work together? Two seperate thoughts in two seperate paragraphs.


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Re: The Irony of it all [Re: Icelander]
    #7435694 - 09/21/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:

Have you noticed those moments of understanding that fulfill your life at that moment, but later slip away into a memory that is as faint as 5 minutes ago?


DJ would answer this by saying the reason is because there was not true understanding but rather an emotional outburst; not a true movement of the assemblage point.




Who is DJ?


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