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OK, THOUGHTS
    #7429053 - 09/19/07 05:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Pot, a gift, for use of endulging once in awhile and a nice past time, or is regular pot use a distraction put here to take us away from achieving life goals.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7429174 - 09/19/07 05:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Depends on the person.
I mean, stereotypical stoner watching TV on the couch doing nothing and Bob Marley. And Bob Marley probably smoked more. :P


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: WScott]
    #7429515 - 09/19/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea, well true, but, how many bob marleys are there, u knw? yea i guess it kind of depends on the person


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7431035 - 09/20/07 04:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I asked the I Ching about my Cannabis use during meditation, and the reading had the words "Parasitic Magical Plant" and basically told me to quit.

I have been learning to Lucid Dream for 5 years, and finally quit smoking cannabis 2 months ago.
I've made more progress with Lucidity in the past two months than in the past 5 years.

Some people say they still remember their dreams even when stoned. I never did, so it could just be me. :shrug:


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7431041 - 09/20/07 04:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think pot should be a once in a while indulgence. After smoking pot for 3 years I came to realize I was using pot to escape everyday life, self-medicating. It's an intoxicant, it clouds the mind. It starts off as a psychedelic and can teach you some great things, but I realize now how long I was still smoking it without even getting high, just doing it to keep that comfortable haze in my mind.

If you are going to look at it from a theological kind of viewpoint - is it here to test you - yes, I think it is - it's not like an evil thing, I guess I just believe that this life has some kind of higher purpose and that each of us are being tested in different ways. I've never read the Bible either, just acid. The way you react to this post could be part of the test.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: EternalCowabunga]
    #7431143 - 09/20/07 05:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Gee y'all, Do you think sugar could be classified as a "Parasitic Magical Plant" ?


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Booby]
    #7431190 - 09/20/07 05:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Absolutely, actually. I'm trying to quit refined sugars too, now that's a bitch...


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Middleman]
    #7431207 - 09/20/07 05:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

While you're at it you may consider wearing homespun.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Booby]
    #7431435 - 09/20/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I dunno, usually when I get stoned I think about my problems and it offers me a different viewpoint. Also it's a great social enhancement tool and a good way to bond between friends.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7431501 - 09/20/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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searchalx said:
Pot, a gift, for use of endulging once in awhile and a nice past time, or is regular pot use a distraction put here to take us away from achieving life goals.




Nothing should be regular...


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Gomp]
    #7431560 - 09/20/07 09:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I smoke all day everyday, and i live in a haze. I enjoy the frame of mind weed puts me in, keeps me on my toes. Ive been thinking about quitting for a while, but have yet to do it. I dont mind having my brain be cloudy all the time, the only thing that bothers me is that im not sure what health effects it could be having.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7431636 - 09/20/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Pot should be used when someone is happy, and since no one is always happy, everybody has some downtime once in a while, so I don't think it is good to use it always...

It is good to "air" our minds once in a while...


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Bard]
    #7431732 - 09/20/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Weed makes me think way more in depth, so i figure if im always high then my awareness is constantly at a higher level. I think it helps me tap into that knowledge space.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Jack Albertson]
    #7431982 - 09/20/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yea, life with weed is definitely great, i mean, when i used to be high all day, like with hash too, and such, man i built up such a big tolerance, id just smoke to get normal, you knw? but now im getting back into smoking, after a month off, and it seems like its really nice, cuz i was really unhappy with that month off, and all of a sudden it makes me happy, i think one of the wonders of pot, is how when your high in public, you can see how fake and stupid serious people are, i love it


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: searchalx]
    #7432914 - 09/20/07 03:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

searchalx said:
Pot, a gift, for use of endulging once in awhile and a nice past time, or is regular pot use a distraction put here to take us away from achieving life goals.




Pot isn't put here to do anything to us. We do it and yes regular use is a cop out and addiction IMO.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Middleman]
    #7432987 - 09/20/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I asked the I Ching about my Cannabis use during meditation, and the reading had the words "Parasitic Magical Plant" and basically told me to quit.

I have been learning to Lucid Dream for 5 years, and finally quit smoking cannabis 2 months ago.
I've made more progress with Lucidity in the past two months than in the past 5 years.

Some people say they still remember their dreams even when stoned. I never did, so it could just be me. :shrug:




No, I have a lot of trouble dreaming/recalling my dreams if I have been smoking marijuana a lot. And upon taking atleast a 5-7 day break they (my dreams) start to come back.

Also, could you explain the I Ching thing? Maybe in PM, but I find it pretty interesting that you got that result. What is it all about?


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: WScott]
    #7433084 - 09/20/07 04:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah it's just for that lack of dream recall alone that i quit really.

dreaming is such an important part of a magical / meditative practice,
anything that prevents you from becoming lucid / remembering your dreams isn't good.

do a search for the I Ching thread by Wiccan Seeker, PM me if you have any questions...


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Middleman]
    #7433145 - 09/20/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Middleman said:
yeah it's just for that lack of dream recall alone that i quit really.

dreaming is such an important part of a magical / meditative practice,
anything that prevents you from becoming lucid / remembering your dreams isn't good.

do a search for the I Ching thread by Wiccan Seeker, PM me if you have any questions...




Yea man I agree. Whenever I quit smoking pot for a while (because I see my friends and myself smoking pot like they'd drink beer.. just something to take reality away for a little while) I start thinking about, say, how a lot of Bob Marley's songs are about uplifting things and I'm thinking.. if he can keep his act together with all that THC in his blood, why can't I? Juvenile, I know.. but pot is tempting.

Also, I find that I read and play guitar more (and the dreams) if I have abstained from marijuana for a while. Coincidence? Placebo effect ? I duno.


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: WScott]
    #7433173 - 09/20/07 04:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

right on. Marley was a visionary, but we shouldn't need any sacrament outside of self, imo. at least not daily...

speaking of placebo, for the first couple weeks when i quit, i would smoke an invisible joint (sad i know) but i was surprised by how high i became just from the breathing patterns of puffing.

pfffftttttffftfftftftftt... hold it in man... :psychsplit:

i haven't gone more than a month sober for 15 years, and i quit cigs too, i feel awesome. :thumbup:


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Re: OK, THOUGHTS [Re: Icelander]
    #7434584 - 09/20/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
regular use is a cop out and addiction IMO.




As much as TV or wearing shoes?


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