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InvisibleChronic7
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Water on the Myc?
    #7426952 - 09/19/07 05:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Does anyone get water droplets on theyre mycelium?

SO far my kit was growing really well and had lots of really fluffy myc growing all over it then i saw tiny pin head shroomz poking theyre way thru, expecting to wake up to smallish shroomz this morning, but when i woke up theres just lots of condensation all over the myc and last time this happened i got a load of green mould the next day.


Can condensation on the myc be normal?


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7426957 - 09/19/07 05:28 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ps it looks exactly like this:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/4485344#4485344

and that everytime ive had it lead to contamination, the water droplets turned to green mould within 24 hours....theres not much way i can stop the condensation as my room gets very cold at night, i think the condensation is dripping off the top of the propergator onto the brick...my setup is a small propergator, a humidifier and temp control, with perlite.


The main reason i ask is because last night there were tiny little shroomz with little helmets on them now theyre just white mycelium with no little dot heads on them...., just water droplets....



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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7427045 - 09/19/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that thread answered your own question...

droplets happen.. assuming you've been sterile to a point, water on the myc should not lead to contams before you see fruits...

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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: Yoschie99]
    #7427050 - 09/19/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

sometimes water damages my healthy mycelium


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: wutang]
    #7427057 - 09/19/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Only standing pools of water are a problem for mycelium. Droplets are not a problem, and are absolutely inevitable, despite the misinformation and exaggeration contained in the good old PF tek.

If you got mold after this happened before, it's not due to the moisture; it's probably due to a lack of fresh air. Make sure your mushies are getting plenty of oxygen.


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7427070 - 09/19/07 06:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Droplets are not a problem, and are absolutely inevitable..




i agree not a problem, however it isn't inevitable just extremely common. if you get the internal tub temp and room temps the same the droplets will almost completely disappear. temperature control with a near colonized tub is almost pointless though, IMO. I've always just let the drops be drops and ignored them, it hasn't caused me any problems.


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7427073 - 09/19/07 06:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In a tub it actually helps me diagnose low moisture sometimes. That all-around-the-edge style of growth is owed to edge droplets/condensation, and is a good ID.


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: figgusfiddus]
    #7427077 - 09/19/07 06:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i just tap on my lid a few times a day and the droplets from the lid fall in the middle of my casing

but you're right...


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7427214 - 09/19/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i use a closed propergator with a humidfier, once the very first tiny shroomz show should i open the vents so theres no too much condensation, every now and then i give em a blast of pure medical oxygen so theres def lots of oxygen in there.

im just para about the droplets cause every time in the past they turned to green nastyness....


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Re: Water on the Myc? [Re: Chronic7]
    #7430132 - 09/19/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This is a cheap, simple hobby, at heart. What you're describing is mad science. Sounds like fun, though--if I had an emphysematic grandfather or something, I can't say I wouldn't sneak out an air tank here and there to play with.

But anyway, droplets don't lead to trichoderma. Sometimes you'll see some bacterial slick/fungal metabolite secretion when there's a whole lot of standing water (assuming there's no casing), but that's it. There is no such thing as too high an RH for uncased shrooms, so if you want ideal growth, don't open the vents! Just try to avoid pools of standing water.

Really, some older teks complain up and down about droplets aborting your pins. That is based on rumor--some pins always abort, it's natural. Too-low humidity will hurt your flush way more than too high.


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