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If it Bubbles?
    #7426599 - 09/19/07 12:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ok so I got some 80% colonized poo trays and seems like they have all stalled on just the top skiff layer. Kinda looked like cob web so I sprayed some H202 on it and some disappeared and it bubbled. So if it bubbles is something on it or is it going to do that even if its normal??


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7427081 - 09/19/07 06:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:justdontknow:
interesting, i've never heard of that.
pics?


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: wutang]
    #7427370 - 09/19/07 09:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well i have already treated all of them with H202. But it is just like you poured it on an open cut. It bubbles turns white then goes away. I'm also a little paranoid about the whole pics thing. =]


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7427384 - 09/19/07 09:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

dont worry, everyone posts pics and nothing happens
for all they know, you could live in somewhere were its legal


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: wutang]
    #7427390 - 09/19/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well i am a senior in computer science and "they" can track everything you do on your computer to your location fairly easy. I'm sure it will never come to that but i see no reason in posing a pic of h202 bubbling on substrate. if you have ever had a cut and put peroxide on it then you know exactly what it does.


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: wutang]
    #7427394 - 09/19/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

or for all we know it could be your friends grow and your just representing it as yours... plus if its not pinning it could be any number of mushroom species most of which are legal everywhere. if you're gonna be paranoid about posting pics just don't show pics of the pins and mushrooms and just call it a colonizing mushroom substrate, no one is gonna risk a bust on what could possibly be edible mushrooms, they don't like to look stupid.


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7427456 - 09/19/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've never paid too much attention to whether or not cobweb bubbles when i've sprayed it with h202

that said, as much as they are able to look at everything we do on all of our computers, they're not going to pay enough people to look at ALL of the stuff that gets turned up by a computer looking at random keywords...

i'm sorry but if they're tracking our behavior online and marijuana is a keyword, think of everything that some fat ass cop that can't run fast enough to chase criminals would have to look at.. all the anti marijuana propaganda, all the pro marijuana propaganda, all the casual discussion about marijuana in chats, all the emails, and postings on boards and blogs, websites, profiles, etc.

and thats just ONE WORD. sure they have ways to cut it down a bit before having to look at it, but then you've got to do the same process for shrooms, pot, thc, magic mushrooms, psychedelic, lsd, acid, cannabis, weed, heroin, H, tar, opium, rock, boomers, crack, coke, synthesis, grow, meth, etc...

get my point?

really you're being irrational and taking logic and reasoning out of the equation, some paranoia is good, excess paranoia is bad and will get you busted cause you act paranoid...

with about an estimated 694 million people online as of may 2006 (as per comscore.com), which i'd like to point out more and more people join the digital age everyday. i'm sorry theres just not enough authorities to be gong through all that bullshit and still be able to have them enforcing on the streets and investigating other crimes, etc.. and even if there were enough where's the money for a program that big.. i'd say the only way you're gonna get busted if if you post something stupid like a special grow room thats underground with a special entrance, directions to it and pics of you with 500 lbs of grass and 100 lbs of shrooms. even if they had the money and people for a program like that, the most sophisticated software for searching the keywords and lowering it down, there'd be thousands of people being busted everyday for posting online, but they're not. plus they'd be more likely to watch for child predators, and meth manufacturers, before messing around with some guy barely growing enough shrooms for himself.

paranoia eats at one's soul just chill out and smoke up a nice clean bowl packed with some fersh dank nugs.


don't get me wrong if you want to believe posting pics is gonna get you busted don't post pics, but then maybe you shouldn't post at all, words are just as incriminating as pics

the difference is the search tools they'd use don't search for pics it'd search for words like i've said, so if they wanted you, they'd find you because of your words not your pics. and if they did go by pics they'd go after people with pics of lots and lots of stuff not a little personal use. they'll only bust you for small personal if they catch you in person or get a tipoff at the local station.

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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7427460 - 09/19/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

H202 will hurt your mycelium just as much as the contaminant.

That's your myc bubbling, your hurting it.


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: aspore]
    #7427778 - 09/19/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

dude never mind you do not understand. i don't think posting pics would get me busted i have posted nice pics on here before. i just see no reason in doing so since we all know what H202 looks like when it bubbles. i have learned many many things over my 4yrs in comp sci and it does scare me a little. As for H202 hurting my myc I have never heard that. Can we get a 2nd opinion. Where is RR when I need him!@@!


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7427817 - 09/19/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

RR said that very same thing (h2o2 is bad for mycelium) yesterday... hell it might have even been today my memory is very shotty these day.

you are right i guess i did misunderstand you though, and you're right h2o2 bubbling is pretty common thing to understand.

h2o2 is the proper method for treating cobweb, but it should be dilluted and only sprayed where for sure needed, because it will hurt the mycelium


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7427850 - 09/19/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Unless your manure is sterilized it seems to me it should bubble. You use peroxide to clean dirt from cuts. Manure's about as dirty as you can get.


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7428761 - 09/19/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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As for H202 hurting my myc I have never heard that. Can we get a 2nd opinion. Where is RR when I need him!@@!




Believe it. H2O2 oxidizes most types of living tissue. "Friendly" mycelium included.

But, don't just believe me, or RogerRabbit, or anyone else for that matter. Look it up for yourself...nothing beats first-hand knowledge. :smile:

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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: Mycomyth]
    #7428803 - 09/19/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Whether the peroxide fizzled or not is not an indication of contamination. Peroxide will fizzle on contact with most organic matter, manure included.
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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #7428824 - 09/19/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

but didn't i read just the other day RR that you DID NOT dilute your %3 H202??? I use to dilute it but not anymore. what do you think could cause the top layer from not colonizing as quickly? i have upped the gas exchange and lower the temp to jus room temp (70 or so). Any other advice? Should I just scrape the top layer off and stick it in the fc??


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7428888 - 09/19/07 04:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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this is kinda what my trays look like. yes i know the iphone doesn't take great pics but its still a cool device. the point is i have rapid colonization until the top layer takes forever! the reason the pan is bent a little is to show how the entire thing is colonized except the top skiff. why does it go so fast then slow right at the top?!?!


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7428936 - 09/19/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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but didn't i read just the other day RR that you DID NOT dilute your %3 H202???




i didn't know that, but I'd trust RR's opinion over mine anyday... thx for pointing that out.


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7429397 - 09/19/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

bump?? rr???


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Re: If it Bubbles? [Re: NewFungiGrower]
    #7429432 - 09/19/07 06:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh peroxide that explains bubbles :lol:


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