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Do animals or insects have egos?
    #7426334 - 09/18/07 11:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well?


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7426434 - 09/18/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well study them then if you really must ask. coyotes and dogs bees spiders ect.


i dont take alot of pics


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7426515 - 09/19/07 12:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

we cant answer that.. but its a possibility primates and other intelligent mammals might have an ego. Maybe they just have super-egos. these are just guesses.


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: danlennon3]
    #7426611 - 09/19/07 12:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

dolphins recognize themselves in the mirror


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Coaster]
    #7426688 - 09/19/07 01:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i watched this Discovery Channel on army ants...they are pretty fuckin smart


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: PoppyRider]
    #7427602 - 09/19/07 11:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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i watched this Discovery Channel on army ants...they are pretty fuckin smart



hahaha
I believe that some animals do have egos.. just watch Homeward Bound


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: skunkape]
    #7427610 - 09/19/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think it depends on the animal.


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Soundform]
    #7427620 - 09/19/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i always wonder this about insects..

i often wonder if it is wrong to kill an insect as well...i mean it is going to happen sometimes no matter what, but should i really be going out of my way to step on a spider or something in my house?...or kill 20million flies at my buddies house bc he never shuts the fucking windows?

i always feel bad if i just go squash a bunch of insects, but should i?

i think since i do feel bad immediately then i really shouldnt..


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7427626 - 09/19/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why wouldnt they?


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: usefulidiot13]
    #7427653 - 09/19/07 11:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I worked with wildlife for a long time before I got into ecology.

Do you mean ego, or self-awareness (including differentiation of self or other and concepts like this)?

I think if you mean ego, like how the concept works with humans, then yes, I would agree that probably only the most highly evolved mammals have this.

I believe however that everything in the animal, plant, insect whatever kingdom you want to include have some amount of self awareness and conciousness of self and other.

I would like if you could explain the question in clearer terms, because I find this a very interesting topic of discussion.


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: gmuralid]
    #7428177 - 09/19/07 01:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hells yeah they do. There a hell of a lot smarter than us humans...


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7428453 - 09/19/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm working on an amateur paper about sense of self and the soul, at about a half-page on paper at the moment

chimpanzees, in a few minutes of trying to figure out why they can't get at the other chimp, will recognize itself in a mirror, explore itself physically while watching the motions in the mirror, and responds to change in its physical appearance (such as a chimp pulling paint out of its hair when applied by a person)

I'm sure lots of animals have egos, but I don't know if they are as complex/more complex as ours (for their sake, I hope it isn't)


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7428660 - 09/19/07 03:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you are all puppets you have a heart to feel pain


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: gmuralid]
    #7429529 - 09/19/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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gmuralid said:
I would like if you could explain the question in clearer terms, because I find this a very interesting topic of discussion.




Well, what I was asking is... Do insects and animals have their own likes and dislikes. Names... Personalities to other animals..

It's not as obvious to me I guess...

Also if this is true.. in what types of animals and insects... Or do they all?


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7429617 - 09/19/07 07:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

um of course they do watch a pet dog or cat then many differnt ones. then pet spiders and ect


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7429731 - 09/19/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Humans are animals and...guess what? Not the only ones. We are only one opportunist species. Long after we die off, other souls will continue...


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7429748 - 09/19/07 07:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

But they are very un-human in ways too...

They have different ego structures?

I'm just trying to better understand this.


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7429842 - 09/19/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes, many (most, all?) primates are able to recognize members of their group and can distinguish from newcomers/outsiders

individuality

I'm sure this is true of cats and dogs as well, but I don't think they are prime examples considering most of them are domesticated and could have possibly picked up those behaviors from us

I wish I had time to study more than just primates, but that's what I'm taking right now


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: demiu5]
    #7429878 - 09/19/07 08:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I would love to befriend a monkey...

Kind of random but I think that's my life goal.


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Re: Do animals or insects have egos? [Re: Phishe]
    #7430243 - 09/19/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i had a really tiny pet spider but i had to let it go it was fun.


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