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mikebart101
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100x Salvia Extract?
#7425058 - 09/18/07 06:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not trying to be stupid or anything of the such; I am just curious. Is it possible to create 100x or anything above? Makes me wonder if its possible to have somewhat of a salvia 'thumbprint'; really breakthrough and meet lady salvia face to face. I wonder if everyone has the same basic visions at this level.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7425086 - 09/18/07 06:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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no. sorry.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Psy Baba]
#7425167 - 09/18/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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what if you could create a drinkable salvia tincture... actually i'm sure that is possible but how much of it would kill you and furthermore what would happen if you took just below the lethal dosage?
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7425168 - 09/18/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm pretty sure that would be pure salvinorin crystals, which is very possible and not too difficult from what I have read
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TheHauntingSoul said: what if you could create a drinkable salvia tincture... actually i'm sure that is possible but how much of it would kill you and furthermore what would happen if you took just below the lethal dosage?
There are tinctures online for sale .
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mikebart101
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Psy Baba]
#7425197 - 09/18/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Is there a lethal dose for humans?
-------------------- So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7425605 - 09/18/07 08:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol 20x is ridiculous tho, why would you want 5 times as much
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7425673 - 09/18/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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exactly just smoked 5x, half a bowl and broke through
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: clemens]
#7425724 - 09/18/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ya u can make 200x suposidly i saw a thread on it earlier i asked he guy how potent it was thats wut he said u can dip cigaretts in the tincture and 1 hit will make u breakthru
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Coaster]
#7425748 - 09/18/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have some Salvinorin I made. 1 little tiny wisp of vapor and breakthrough.....  it took 1 lb to make it its not totally pure but it is probably 80%
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Coaster]
#7425808 - 09/18/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Of course it can be created. How many times is the mass of one salvinorum crystal compared to the average salvia leaf? That's about how many X can be made theoretically. Past that point you are making salvia leaf enhanced salvinorum which is just the opposite of course.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Coaster]
#7425940 - 09/18/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone who claims that 100x is impossible is a fool; sure, it'd be something between resin and crystals, but it's still possible.
It'd be a waste of salvia leaves though, IMO. o_O
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: astronaut]
#7426007 - 09/18/07 09:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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100x is easy but needs to be standardized of course. just take 100 grams and extract from 99 grams and defat and wash extract and soak back into the 1 gram that was put aside
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thedudenj
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7426050 - 09/18/07 10:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah it is
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7426062 - 09/18/07 10:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Leaf enhanced salvinorum lol:
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thedudenj
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7426067 - 09/18/07 10:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i dont understand why people cant break thru with one hit of leaves?
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7426386 - 09/18/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've actually been thinking of growing some salvia myself. Does anyone have a link to a site with some teks not only for growing but making the stronger extracts and things too?
thanks
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7426409 - 09/18/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buy some DMSO (commonly used solvent) and dissolve your salvia crystals in there..
DMSO allows drugs to pass through the skin and rush into your bloodstream.. A drop under the tongue would do the trick also. Theres your salvia thumb print.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: poponon]
#7426646 - 09/19/07 12:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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poponon said: Does anyone have a link to a site with some teks not only for growing but making the stronger extracts and things too?
check out
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_extraction4.shtml
(i apologize if the link is forbidden)
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7426666 - 09/19/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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thedudenj said: i dont understand why people cant break thru with one hit of leaves?
it never worked for me
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7428691 - 09/19/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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in that case you need it from a good medicine man
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7428989 - 09/19/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ive only got the 40X and one bag of that I didnt even break through, 2 bags I did but thats 18 bucks for a 5 min trip. what a crappy drug, not even good trips, theres a reason its legal.
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cpw1971
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Osamabinshroomy said: Ive only got the 40X and one bag of that I didnt even break through, 2 bags I did but thats 18 bucks for a 5 min trip. what a crappy drug, not even good trips, theres a reason its legal.
Lady Salvia opens the heavens to those who treat her with respect. It isn't some crappy drug. want crappy? go do some meth
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thedudenj
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429064 - 09/19/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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theres also a reason its slowly becoming illegal like slavery did back in the day state by state and a drug war
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429358 - 09/19/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Acyl said: Buy some DMSO (commonly used solvent) and dissolve your salvia crystals in there..
DMSO allows drugs to pass through the skin and rush into your bloodstream.. A drop under the tongue would do the trick also. Theres your salvia thumb print.
interesting, you sure this would work?
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429368 - 09/19/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ps you need a medicine man that is skilled in energy transfer.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: maggotz]
#7429398 - 09/19/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DMSO transports many different chemicals through your skin and into your blood stream.. If a compound only needs a small dose to produce its effects it would work really well. Salvinorin A, if im not mistaken, is up there with the potency of LSD and should work fairly well.
Apparently 10mg of salvinorin A dissolves into 1mL of DMSO... Im pretty sure that less than 1mL would do the trick.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429410 - 09/19/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I forget where, maybe erowid, some guy was raving about using DMSO instead of alcohol for his tinctures. But then he had to stop because his wife complained of the smell and he was also worried whether it was safe to put in his mouth.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429428 - 09/19/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well, when smoked 500 micrograms would be a pretty heavy dose. but for oral doses i think the sublingual should be way higher than that, would that mehod be more efficient?
10mg of pure salvinorin A would be like two or three grams of whole leaf and according to erowid an average sublingual dose is 6 grams of leaf. so if it is just as efficient you'd need like 2 or 3 mL of the DMSO/Salvinorin mixture, right?
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Compass]
#7429462 - 09/19/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The toxicity of DMSO is less than that of ethanol.. DMSO is quite safe, it also occurs naturally.. almost everywhere.
maggotz- I couldnt say for sure, I would start low though.. a mL at most at first.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429528 - 09/19/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hmm can u use cloroform as a solvent
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429549 - 09/19/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That would be stupid. I bet you just wouldn't remember any bit of your trip. I have trouble remembering anything from 20x...
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429558 - 09/19/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i might actually try this. so, could i just drop an mL of the solution on the palm of my hand or would it be best to drop it under my tongue?
and how bad is the smell?
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Well many people enjoy those trips, whats stupid to you may not be to others.
thedudenj- apparently chloroform is the best solvent to use in salvinorin A extractions.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429585 - 09/19/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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neat so one could get some chloroform and chloroform people with it. tho i think the rag with just be then laced and the person will pass out from the chloroform, then you have some salvinorin A on a cloth to do what ever with
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: maggotz]
#7429592 - 09/19/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Be very careful with this.. if you accidentally take in too much you may be in one hell of a bad place for what may seem like an eternity.. heart attacks, psychological damage may not be far off.
I would think that the best route for absorption would be under the tongue but it is apparently irritating to mucous membranes, so that route may not be desirable at all..
Try on your skin first, it seems like the safest method.. back of the hand or something. A mL may be too much or may be just enough.. start low.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
#7429603 - 09/19/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wait, what?
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429611 - 09/19/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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smoking leaves hits me hard, oral use makes my body hurt with no other effect
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
#7429648 - 09/19/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well you can make a less concentrated solution, can't you? say, 10mg for every 5mL or even 1mg per mL. it would be easier to control doses.
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thedudenj
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
#7429678 - 09/19/07 07:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ill never really leave leaves tho if some one hands me extract ill take it
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: maggotz]
#7429767 - 09/19/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yup, you sure could.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Psy Baba]
#7430383 - 09/19/07 10:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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DuNeRaVeR said: no. sorry.
actually, the answer is yes.
if you simply google "salvia 100x" you will get plenty of vendors, trip reports and videos.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: kotik]
#7431247 - 09/20/07 06:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7188267#7188267
If ya'll want to read it, I wrote my Salvia 1 million times extract report. It was really strange to say the least.
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