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InvisibleEntersandman
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7426666 - 09/19/07 01:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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thedudenj said:
i dont understand why people cant break thru with one hit of leaves?




it never worked for me :sad:


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Invisiblethedudenj
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7428691 - 09/19/07 03:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

in that case you need it from a good medicine man


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7428989 - 09/19/07 04:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ive only got the 40X and one bag of that I didnt even break through, 2 bags I did but thats 18 bucks for a 5 min trip. what a crappy drug, not even good trips, theres a reason its legal.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Osamabinshroomy]
    #7429049 - 09/19/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Osamabinshroomy said:
Ive only got the 40X and one bag of that I didnt even break through, 2 bags I did but thats 18 bucks for a 5 min trip. what a crappy drug, not even good trips, theres a reason its legal.



Lady Salvia opens the heavens to those who treat her with respect.
It isn't some crappy drug.
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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7429064 - 09/19/07 05:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

theres also a reason its slowly becoming illegal like slavery did back in the day state by state and a drug war


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429358 - 09/19/07 06:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Acyl said:
Buy some DMSO (commonly used solvent) and dissolve your salvia crystals in there..

DMSO allows drugs to pass through the skin and rush into your bloodstream.. A drop under the tongue would do the trick also. Theres your salvia thumb print.



interesting, you sure this would work?


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7429368 - 09/19/07 06:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ps you need a medicine man that is skilled in energy transfer.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: maggotz]
    #7429398 - 09/19/07 06:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

DMSO transports many different chemicals through your skin and into your blood stream.. If a compound only needs a small dose to produce its effects it would work really well. Salvinorin A, if im not mistaken, is up there with the potency of LSD and should work fairly well.

Apparently 10mg of salvinorin A dissolves into 1mL of DMSO... Im pretty sure that less than 1mL would do the trick.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429410 - 09/19/07 06:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I forget where, maybe erowid, some guy was raving about using DMSO instead of alcohol for his tinctures. But then he had to stop because his wife complained of the smell and he was also worried whether it was safe to put in his mouth.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429428 - 09/19/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well, when smoked 500 micrograms would be a pretty heavy dose. but for oral doses i think the sublingual should be way higher than that, would that mehod be more efficient?

10mg of pure salvinorin A would be like two or three grams of whole leaf and according to erowid an average sublingual dose is 6 grams of leaf. so if it is just as efficient you'd need like 2 or 3 mL of the DMSO/Salvinorin mixture, right?


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Compass]
    #7429462 - 09/19/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The toxicity of DMSO is less than that of ethanol.. DMSO is quite safe, it also occurs naturally.. almost everywhere.

maggotz- I couldnt say for sure, I would start low though.. a mL at most at first.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7429528 - 09/19/07 07:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm can u use cloroform as a solvent


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429549 - 09/19/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That would be stupid. I bet you just wouldn't remember any bit of your trip. I have trouble remembering anything from 20x...


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429558 - 09/19/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i might actually try this.
so, could i just drop an mL of the solution on the palm of my hand or would it be best to drop it under my tongue?


and how bad is the smell?


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: SmellyMushroom]
    #7429562 - 09/19/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well many people enjoy those trips, whats stupid to you may not be to others.

thedudenj- apparently chloroform is the best solvent to use in salvinorin A extractions.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7429585 - 09/19/07 07:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

neat so one could get some chloroform and chloroform people with it. tho i think the rag with just be then laced and the person will pass out from the chloroform, then you have some salvinorin A on a cloth to do what ever with


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: maggotz]
    #7429592 - 09/19/07 07:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Be very careful with this.. if you accidentally take in too much you may be in one hell of a bad place for what may seem like an eternity.. heart attacks, psychological damage may not be far off.

I would think that the best route for absorption would be under the tongue but it is apparently irritating to mucous membranes, so that route may not be desirable at all..

Try on your skin first, it seems like the safest method.. back of the hand or something. A mL may be too much or may be just enough.. start low.


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: thedudenj]
    #7429603 - 09/19/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wait, what? :nonono:


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: mikebart101]
    #7429611 - 09/19/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

smoking leaves hits me hard, oral use makes my body hurt with no other effect


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Re: 100x Salvia Extract? [Re: Acyl]
    #7429648 - 09/19/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well you can make a less concentrated solution, can't you? say, 10mg for every 5mL or even 1mg per mL. it would be easier to control doses.


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