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Mushroom Casing Thread
    #7423955 - 09/18/07 02:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This thread is dedicated to all questions and comments on casing.

1. can anyone give me a link to a 50/50 casing tek that may be a little more thorough then the one on this sight?

2. Is vermiculite absolutely neccessary on the bottom of a casing?

3. If i have 2 quart jars of rye, that im planning to case how much 50/50 would you expect i need?

4. i have a clear tupperware container do you think it would be ok to case if i wrapped it in duct tape?


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: highc]
    #7424011 - 09/18/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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highc said:
This thread is dedicated to all questions and comments on casing.

1. can anyone give me a link to a 50/50 casing tek that may be a little more thorough then the one on this sight?

2. Is vermiculite absolutely neccessary on the bottom of a casing?

3. If i have 2 quart jars of rye, that im planning to case how much 50/50 would you expect i need?

4. i have a clear tupperware container do you think it would be ok to case if i wrapped it in duct tape?




1. There's way more than one version of howto do 50/50+ on this site, pretty straight up you need verm/peat (50/50) and the + (a little agricultural use hydrated lime and a long term buffer, such as calcium carbonate) you also need a way to measure Ph to get the + part right. it's maybe a bit more complicate dthan that, but thats the basic idea I'm sure someone has a good link for you

2. no

3. not much at all, I'd spawn the rye to coir before casing personally if i only had 2 jars

4. yes duct tape around the outside will block light fine however by later flushes the substrate will shrink and the duct tape barrier will not be nearly as effective as the light will start to reach the sides... duct tape is my method though (actually i use gorilla tape but close enough)

hope this helps


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7424234 - 09/18/07 03:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Cosmic...quick question. I'm a little confused about something you said. Maybe you can clear it up for me. You said above about adding the "+" ingredients to the 50/50 such as lime and a long-term buffer, calcium carbonate. I thought those were about the same. Or at least i've read that if you can't find hydrated lime, then you can use the cc. Also with cc, if you use too much it's not near as bad as if you used too much of the lime. Is gypsum not considered a buffer or is it just for texture of the soil to assist when harvesting? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I thought I had a handle on that stuff. Thanks bro.....


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: juris1]
    #7424364 - 09/18/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you can add this stuff, then do it!

hydrated lime: 5% of the total of your peat moss
gypsum: 10% of the total of your peat moss

PH of 8 is best for casing substrate.

Mix the hl/cc and gypsum with water and use this to hydate your casing substrate.

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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: juris1]
    #7424371 - 09/18/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well i havent bought the jars yet so i can get more then two its just the tub i have for the casing is kinda small it will comfortably hold only 6 half pint jars, so i figured two quarts would be enough to cover the bottom but i can always get more also my duct tape tub can i reuse it again and again for casings as long as i bleach it or somethin.


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: highc]
    #7424442 - 09/18/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ok i read a little more and decided to get 3 quart rye jars. question being would it be ok to go 50/50 on the mycelium and casing mix. so i would make 3 quarts worth 50/50+ for my 3 quarts of rye. it this too much either way.


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: juris1]
    #7425304 - 09/18/07 07:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Cosmic...quick question. I'm a little confused about something you said. Maybe you can clear it up for me. You said above about adding the "+" ingredients to the 50/50 such as lime and a long-term buffer, calcium carbonate. I thought those were about the same. Or at least i've read that if you can't find hydrated lime, then you can use the cc. Also with cc, if you use too much it's not near as bad as if you used too much of the lime. Is gypsum not considered a buffer or is it just for texture of the soil to assist when harvesting? Sorry if this is a dumb question, but I thought I had a handle on that stuff. Thanks bro.....




lime is quick acting and doesn't last through many flushes, calcium carbonate releases over time making the later flushes better.

one is for immediate effect, one is for the long run. i use both many other people i've seen use both. if i had to choose only one of the two it'd be calcium carbonate hands down although there are other options besides these two.


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Re: Mushroom Casing Thread [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7425526 - 09/18/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks Cosmic...that cleared things up for me. I'll probably use both since i have the hl and cc, as well as gypsum. About to start my casings right now. I'm gonna crumble about 5-7 cakes then case with 50/50+ or MGMC+. I'm also gonna case 3 6qt containers of wbs. I was gonna use hpoo to spawn the wbs to it, but it went bad out on my balcony. So, i'm just gonna experiment with just straight casing the wbs. One of them I may mix a little verm in with it, since I read somewhere that some people have done this with success. I know it's not best to just straight case wbs, but i've seen pics of flushes that were done that way and they were quite impressive. It's just for me anyways, and my roommate. Will have more than enough. Also have five cakes in one of my FC's that i put in on Sunday. Already seeing hyphal knots on them!!! Thanks again for the help....


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