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Dudes
#7423479 - 09/18/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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From Middleman's sig. I believe this is exactly what is happening in our little world.
-------------------- We reproduce catastrophe because we ourselves are traumatized – both as a species and individually, beginning at birth. Because we are wounded, we have put up psychic defenses against reality and have become so cut off from direct participation in the multidimensional wilderness in which we are embedded that all we can do is to navigate our way cautiously through a humanly designed day-to-day substitute world of symbols - a world of dollars, minutes, numbers, images and words that are constantly being manipulated to wring the most possible profit from every conceivable circumstance. The body and spirit both rebel. - David Watson (The Pathology of Civilization)
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Middleman

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Memorizing it. "multidimensional wilderness" indeed...
Just don't ask how we were traumatized as a species...
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dorkus
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I really like this quote.
There are two things I am wondering about though. It seems like life in itself are catastrophic in nature. Movement can not occur without friction. Everything has to lose its battle against darkness, wither and die, because all else would lead into a state of stillness, oneness, of nothing ever happening because all was perfect and therefore fully content. So change is fueled by destruction, therefore life must be catastrophic by nature, traumatized by birth or not. Chimpanzees kill eachother and eat their kids sometimes. Are they also a traumatized species, or is this something else and natural? I think it is all natural, and life is a bitch. But for me the good times are so brilliant that all else is worthwhile.
Hmmm one more thing I was thinking... Yeah, about how so many critisize humanity for immersing into digital realities and such. What does this really matters? Isn't how people feel what counts, not what they do? For me, we could all just wire ourselves into some virtual reality and live a week pr actual second in the "real world" (hah!) if it would free more resources and make more space for others.
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dorkus
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Was it you who asked a question then everything fell apart? Did you have a quarrell with the Voice? Heheh. I dreamt this once. He gave me a million life sentences only, but upped it heavily when I told him to go fuck himself. What a bitter bastard.
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Re: Dudes [Re: dorkus]
#7423619 - 09/18/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree that perfection is a fantasy. I like to look at things more from the viewpoint of enlightened hedonism. Now what can be done to maximize pleasure and minimize pain? Whatever is unalterable can be left alone. For instance what part of birth trauma is because Mater is stressed out and dealing with it by smoking and drugs and what part is just the birth event itself? The first can be altered for sure and the other may be left alone as a necessary part of being human.
As to your second paragraph. I agree. Whatever works. But lets make sure it works.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Quote:
Whatever works. But lets make sure it works.
Hence, this is where the much-maligned white lab coats and test tubes come in.
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Indeed
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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