Home | Community | Message Board

Kratom Eye
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Mushroom-Hut Grow Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Am I screwed???
    #7423028 - 09/18/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I injected 3cc each into 3 small grain mycobags on 9/12/07. It has now been 6 days and I have yet to see ANY signs of growth. Even the bags, which are said to "fluff" up and expand due to gas exchange show no sign of doing so.

Is it too soon to assume I received a dead/non-viable syringe or should I contact the vendor for a possible replacement?

No myc. growth makes me a sad panda IRL.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMikeRamos9
shrooms make mehappy
Male

Registered: 09/15/07
Posts: 56
Loc: Here and There
Last seen: 15 years, 10 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7423047 - 09/18/07 10:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

should see something by 6 days id assume. i got BRF jars goin and i saw grouth in about 3-4 and those jars are never in the right temp haha. good luck tho, hope its just delayed not a bad syringe.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMankey
Male

Registered: 07/30/05
Posts: 2,203
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: MikeRamos9]
    #7423067 - 09/18/07 10:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

1. Did you hang your bags up to reinflate them?
2. I would wait about a week more. They just take a while sometimes.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineanarchOi
Ellenalien is fat.
Male User Gallery


Registered: 08/06/07
Posts: 2,293
Loc: ASE Flag
Last seen: 12 years, 11 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: Mankey]
    #7423086 - 09/18/07 10:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it's likely just delayed

if you didn't shake your needles up well enough exspecially


--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: Mankey]
    #7423089 - 09/18/07 10:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Mankey said:
1. Did you hang your bags up to reinflate them?
2. I would wait about a week more. They just take a while sometimes.




1. I "fluffed" them up when I received the bags. I then injected at a steep angle so the solution seeped down the bag inside. I stood them up nicely on a closet shelf and puffed the top of the bags to ensure gas exchange.

2. I was afraid of that. I guess I'm mostly concerned that waiting too long before contacting the vendor (Lil' Shop of Spores) would invalidate any claim for replacement.


EDIT: I shook the needle up very vigorously to ensure the spores were distributed.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Edited by hilfloskind (09/18/07 10:49 AM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineacommunistspy
the fun nazi,NOT to beconfused withthe fun-nazi


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 657
Loc: the garden state
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
Re: Am I screwed??? *DELETED* [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7423115 - 09/18/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Post deleted by acommunistspy

Reason for deletion: this never happened



--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMikeRamos9
shrooms make mehappy
Male

Registered: 09/15/07
Posts: 56
Loc: Here and There
Last seen: 15 years, 10 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7423134 - 09/18/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

arnt you sposed to put the needle in left then right so the spores spread out, not down right?


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7423142 - 09/18/07 11:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

acommunistspy said:
yea did you allow air to go into the bag? you gotta hang the bag up and allow air to go in through the filter. yea no worries bro, it should start soon. temperature could play a big factor.. what's the temperature where the bags are?

mine's been 5 days and 1 shows pretty good growth, 1 shows tiny tiny tiny growth but i'm not sure if it's condensation. the other one shows no growth at all.

If you got the syringe from a sponser, it should be viable and good. you should see growth soon good luck.




When you say "hang the bag", should I pin the bags to the hanger pole in the closet and let them dangle freely? I merely fluffed them up and puffed the bags out so they stood straight up.

The temperate outside the closet is around 72-74 degrees, a couple more inside. I'd estimate no higher than 78 degrees in the closet at any time.

I've peeked in a couple of times to see SOMETHING but there are absolutely no signs of growth or bag expansion.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineacommunistspy
the fun nazi,NOT to beconfused withthe fun-nazi


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 657
Loc: the garden state
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
Re: Am I screwed??? *DELETED* [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7423152 - 09/18/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Post deleted by acommunistspy

Reason for deletion: this never happened



--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7423330 - 09/18/07 11:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No droplets observed.

Yeah, I knew I definitely had to have the bags sit fully "open" so the patch could provide gas exchange. Does hanging the bags prove more beneficial to colonization than what I've done?

I got the spores from Lil' Shop Of Spores.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinetoadstooly
searcher oftruth
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/13/07
Posts: 252
Loc: where the wild things are...
Last seen: 15 years, 11 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7423412 - 09/18/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hanging the bag just makes it inflate by drawing in air through the patch.

like said, just an easy way to inflate the bag before inoc.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7429127 - 09/19/07 05:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

UPDATE:

Day 7...still absolutely NO sign of development.

Luckily, I emailed Lil' Shop of Spores and explained my problem. Within an hour of emailing them, I got a response and they are sending a replacement syringe.

Just that level of customer commitment ALONE makes the sting of disappointment fade away. I hope this second syringe works out, friends!


...as a side question:

At this point, all three small grain mycobags show NO signs of growth NOR contamination. With this in mind, would it be feasible to reinoculate the same 3 bags with the new syringe or are they junked?


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Edited by hilfloskind (09/19/07 05:29 PM)


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleMankey
Male

Registered: 07/30/05
Posts: 2,203
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7429229 - 09/19/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The vendors always provide excellent customer service. Its a pleasure dealing with them.
Even though you can't see any contamination its possible that they are in fact contaminated. Definitely start with new bags. Make sure you inflate these new ones. You'll notice fast colonization times.


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineacommunistspy
the fun nazi,NOT to beconfused withthe fun-nazi


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/13/07
Posts: 657
Loc: the garden state
Last seen: 13 years, 10 months
Re: Am I screwed??? *DELETED* [Re: Mankey]
    #7429350 - 09/19/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Post deleted by acommunistspy

Reason for deletion: this never happened



--------------------


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7429480 - 09/19/07 06:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I might get another bag or two and inoculate all of them. LSoS is sending the syringe tomorrow.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleorchidfanatic
retiree
Male User Gallery


Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 08/12/07
Posts: 832
Loc: where the wild things are
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: hilfloskind]
    #7442090 - 09/22/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I got a rye grain bag once and nothing ever grew in it .. I used an LC with healthy mycelium that grew in grain jars but OTC rye bag did nothing.. I am going to open and reboil the rye and PC and use some oyster shrooms, that I plan to grow on AGAR .then add a wedge of agar to the rye in the bag.. . thanks grey for the oyster spores.
sometimes something is wrong and they don't want to grow for some reason
try try again


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewutang
fungi
 User Gallery


Registered: 06/28/07
Posts: 1,903
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7442115 - 09/22/07 10:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well ya i've had bad luck using rye bags..
hopefully its just delayed
maybe 3cc wasnt enough?

dont worry man, i've had jars that were sitting there for over a week and guess what?
they are showing white now..give it a little more time buddy


--------------------
:peyotespectrum:    :sanpedro: :rainbowdrink: :tripping:


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinehilfloskind
Psychonaut
Male


Registered: 08/28/07
Posts: 33
Last seen: 16 years, 2 months
Re: Am I screwed??? [Re: wutang]
    #7442198 - 09/22/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah...I got the replacement syringe today and found a good omen...

The syringe already started some mycelia threading. It's almost like a syringe LC...which is exactly what I started with it. I banged up both honey water and a small bottle of pasteurized 100% apple juice (thanks to my daughter for her contribution). Both are sitting in the cabinet above my stove hood with the light turned on to provide warmth. I'll inoculate some new bags with LC this time and hope for better luck.


--------------------
Given enough time for the generations to evolve, the predator produces particular survival adaptations in its prey which, through the circular operation of feedback, produce changes in the predator which again produce changes in the prey which again change the predator - etcetera, etcetera, etcetera...Many powerful forces do the same thing. You can count religions among such forces.

-The Stolen Journals


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: North Spore Injection Grain Bag   Mushroom-Hut Grow Bags   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   PhytoExtractum Kratom Powder for Sale   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Capsules   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Inflated Bags Snaggletooth 2,764 7 03/31/06 01:49 PM
by Workman
* Myco bags inflated after PC'ing Black_Dog 1,034 5 08/23/08 04:15 PM
by j_db69
* Spawn bags slowly inflating - sign of growth? shroomy snowman 1,198 4 09/19/10 01:28 PM
by pinophile
* months of prepatation for first time screw up? Jeroen198 2,015 12 06/22/02 08:40 AM
by Jeroen198
* Did I screw up my substrate?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
EpicurusFire 2,564 66 03/14/10 01:40 PM
by jimmyjame1
* 2 Syringes and 2 Cakes!!! I am Trying to Screw Up the Water Ratio Updated 2/15
( 1 2 all )
tahoe 3,859 36 04/22/08 03:51 PM
by prototypical_man
* didnt put tape on the holes, how screwed am i?
( 1 2 all )
4saken 2,812 21 09/23/08 10:59 PM
by rev 766
* How long do the spores need to germinate?
( 1 2 all )
Mortland 8,678 20 12/22/04 11:41 PM
by penlight438094

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
740 topic views. 17 members, 208 guests and 48 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.01 seconds on 14 queries.