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krypto2000
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Drugs or a girl, which would you choose?
#7421503 - 09/17/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I have been seeing this girl on and off for a couple of years. We dated for awhile and then we just would see each other for short periods of time over the course of 2 years following that, but we haven't gotten back together since. I would say it's not worked out in the past because of faults on both of our ends. I for one was not by any means a very stable person, I used to be very depressed and had issues with anxiety.
I have done a lot of personal growth since I have started using psychedelics about a year ago and would say I have finally reached a point where I am content and truly happy with who I am as a person and have control over my emotions. This is not to say I have gotten all I can out of psychedelics, not by any means. It's merely to say that I feel up until these past months I feel I was not capable of being in a truly healthy relationship because of personal reasons. I felt I needed a girl friend, and I could not support myself without one.
So in light of all of this, this girl has yet once again entered my life. At the moment she says she doesn't like me, and things are a bit fucked up in her life at the moment, though I would say that they are in accord with the average person. All in all, I think given the chance things would work out between us.
The problem with all of this is she is anti-drug. She drinks alcohol and admits it is bad for you, much more so than pot or psychedelics, but she still does not like them. My belief is that it's probably just a built up aversion that was conditioned in her from all of the negativity on 'drugs' from the media, schools, parents etc.
So I'm now faced with the delima of what I should do. I am probably going to quit pot for personal reasons and her presence only makes that decision easier for me to burden. However psychedelics are another issue, and I'm having trouble on what to do on this matter and that is why I'm asking for advice. In the end it is a personal choice and only I can decide, but any help you guys could give I would greatly appreciate.
The way I look at it is I can quit and greatly increase my chances with her, as well as show her what I'm willing to do for her, but on the other hand I don't feel that people should change for anyone else; that they should be themselves. However, when emotions are involved this is not such an easy choice, specially when considering psychedelics. I'm currently not depressed about the issue at all and I feel I have a grasp on my emotions still, yet I don't want to use psychedelics until I get this issue resolved as I do not know where they may take me.
I have already talked to her about this and I do not want to press the issue anymore, it is a choice I have to make, and I don't feel I can or should try to change her opinion at this time. She has just entered back into my life again so I do not hold enough value in her heart to expect that much of her. If I were to try and oppose her at this point it would only push her away. She has just gotten out of a relationship too, so I'm just trying to let her do her own thing and get on stable ground again and just be her friend for the time being. She has always had feelings for me on and off, and even said a couple of weeks ago she felt something for me still but once she heard about my drug use they quickly went away. I feel if I were to show her I can change in a few months time maybe things will settle down and we could get back together, but is it really worth it? I can't decide.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7421539 - 09/17/07 09:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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never consciously change yourself for a girl. the point of dating is to find someone who complements who you are, not to change yourself so that you complement someone else.
however, at least she doesn't appear to be saying "choose the lsd or me" so i don't have to say dump her. be yourself, and let the relationship take its course. don't quit anything for her, but don't try to press your lifestyle on her either. make sure she understands your choices and that she doesn't have to make the same choices in her life, but she has to respect that it's your choice to make. if she can't accept you for who you are, then you're wasting your time anyway.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7421561 - 09/17/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7421564 - 09/17/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but the ones who won't listen to a rational argument or understand why you do them are not.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: xFrockx]
#7421575 - 09/17/07 09:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do not change who you are or what you do for a girl otherwise the relationship will not work.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7421591 - 09/17/07 09:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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enygma said: never consciously change yourself for a girl. the point of dating is to find someone who complements who you are, not to change yourself so that you complement someone else.
however, at least she doesn't appear to be saying "choose the lsd or me"....
...make sure she understands your choices and that she doesn't have to make the same choices in her life, but she has to respect that it's your choice to make. if she can't accept you for who you are, then you're wasting your time anyway.
Agreed.
First, I think shes not saying it out loud, but I think she basically is saying its a choice between the two.
In this case, I would say you need to make it very clear that you cannot choose between the two. You have feelings for her, but also feel that you can find some understanding and growth from using these substances.
If she doesnt understand this, then its very possible that this will cause a conflict and even though she may accept it conditionally now, it is also very possible that this will become an issue in the future.
I know many women that have accepted friends of mine like this, and then held their expectations for them to change for many years, and then after like 3-4 years have started pushing their anti-drug agenda on them, causing huge rifts and heartache.
Im not saying this will be the case, but its good to be aware that these situations with unsaid expectations do occur (somewhat frequently).
I guess I cant tell you either way how I feel, my gf is pretty much anti-drug having never done any in her life except drinking once in a while, but in the 10 years we have been going out, she has seen the changes and growth in me from using mushrooms, so she is ok with them, since I only have ever dosed like once in 3-4 months anyway.
Good luck figuring this one out.But if it were me, I would choose the drug.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7421604 - 09/17/07 09:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Id probably go with the drugs also.
But you probably wont even have to make that decision...
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7421618 - 09/17/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Should she even ask you to stop using lsd? not that she's blatantly laying down the ultimatum anyway, but still...
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: dirtworshipper]
#7421676 - 09/17/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think that relationships are doomed to failure if people change themselves too much and hide parts of themselves just to make the relationship work.
You have to look at your drug use and try to decide whether or not you would still be you without them. If you think you would, then the relationship should be fine.
However you seem to be very sure of yourself and who you are so even if you did stop doing drugs; having that self assurance would mean that no matter who you became, it would still be truly you.
I think a lot of people try to change into someone they think they should be and when you get into a relationship as this other person it's doomed.
Just be sure of who you are and if you feel confident that stopping using drugs is the right thing to do because you want this relationship to work then do it. We all have to make sacrifices, and as long as we KNOW we are making the right choice then everything will work out fine.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: Yosefxp]
#7421679 - 09/17/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i feel bad for those of you who say drugs.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: xFrockx]
#7421680 - 09/17/07 10:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: Some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but the ones who won't listen to a rational argument or understand why you do them are not.
really it's quite a catch 22. some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but none of those actually worth quitting for will actually require you to do it (provided you're using them responsibly, of course).
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: jenns_hot]
#7421697 - 09/17/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenns_hot said: i feel bad for those of you who say drugs.
Why, may I ask?
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: jenns_hot]
#7421704 - 09/17/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jenns_hot said: i feel bad for those of you who say drugs.
i feel bad for people who are so insecure and self-conscious that they have to deny who they are just to get laid. and don't fool yourself that it's love if you're denying who you are for a girl, love is loving a person for who they are, not who they've become now that you're letting them sleep with you.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7421706 - 09/17/07 10:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Girls are what men are meant for. I'd choose women over weed and all other pleasures in life, but like everyone else said before, the right girl would be the kind of girl who's understandin with all you do, and even if she doesn't like it, she will at least let you explain yourself / keep an open mind. All I can say is explain yourself to her - afterall, she does drink, so I don't see why she would not wanna be with you for merely doin psychedelics. And a girl doesn't have to love EVERYTHIN you do to be the right one.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7421715 - 09/17/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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enygma said:
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xFrockx said: Some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but the ones who won't listen to a rational argument or understand why you do them are not.
really it's quite a catch 22. some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but none of those actually worth quitting for will actually require you to do it (provided you're using them responsibly, of course).
Thats right. Sucks for those who arent good at communicating and opening themselves up to the other.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7421717 - 09/17/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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enygma said: really it's quite a catch 22. some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but none of those actually worth quitting for will actually require you to do it (provided you're using them responsibly, of course).
Wholeheartedly agree with that one, my friend!! Well said. Isnt it amazing how that works? I love women (as opposed to girls)!
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: yageman]
#7421871 - 09/17/07 10:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If a girl was not interested in my past, which includes lots of psychedelic drugs, then I dont care how she feels. These drugs are part of who I am even though I dont use them anymore. I honestly would prolly fuck her a few times and if she still was not interested/cared about my whole, or acting holier than thou, id just say goodby soon enough.
Everything I have ever experienced with psychedelic drugs has alot to do with people who have never taken them.
Same goes for crazy awsome and psychedelic women looking for an awsome guy to fuck lovingly and share themselves with.
You should never have to choose between a love, and psychedelic drugs. SOme other types of drugs are an issue, and should be. I hope you stay happy around a person that makes you choose. This goes hand in hand with not acknowledging that your past is all you are made of.
It all just seems stupid. Love does not exist without understanding the other person almost in full. Love is also a funny and pliable word. Its just a word.
If you truely know what "care" and "passion" means, this is not much of an issue. It shouldnt be anyways.
70% of people are really fucking stupid. Thats my guess anyways. You could be a brain surgeon and still be a really pathetic and simple idiot. So few people realize this.
Id choose bot the girl and psychedelics if I had to. If not, Id choose the girl for a moment in time. I dont even use these drugs anymore, but if she was not interested in my past and I realized that she didnt care about what my life is made of, I just tell her to get out eventually.
Why are there not many women here? That explains the dynamic a bit.
Its hard. You can settle if you want.
I like sports but im not about to settle for some beautiful tennis player who cant hold a fun conversation and bores me to death and hates all drugs. Thats just not me.
Ya, I have not been layed in 2 years. This subject sort of hits home at this point. I gave up alot in order to "keep it real" yo.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7421897 - 09/17/07 11:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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you gota be a super team
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: thedudenj]
#7421996 - 09/17/07 11:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i chose drugs instead of the girl. she wasn't going to have sex until she married either though, so it was sort of a no brainer.
yeah fuck that man, if she doesn't do them that's one thing, and respect that. but if she can't respect that you're doing what you want, then leave her by the wayyyy siiiide yeeeah.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: Hrethic]
#7422199 - 09/18/07 01:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am sorry If a girl asked me to stop smoking weed and if I dont shed leave me, Well I'd have to say bye bitch and then puff on my dooby.
There are plenty of fish in the sea man, dont fool your self people who are anti drug dont get the whole picture and are misinformed so if you try to explain things to her and she dosent want to listen, it aint worth it.
Personally I would take LSD over any girl that asked me to stop using, it something I enjoy and its one of my hobbies.
and people who think marijuana is worse than booze got a finger up there ass, you have to be 21 to buy a 6-pack, but only 18 to buy a bong.
and thats from the governments standards.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: MauiGanjaMonster]
#7422416 - 09/18/07 04:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the second post says it all but I'd like to add that it depends on her reasons and it seems liek she has none other than the legality of things.
I worry about ANYONE who does not have their own sense of morality beyond their religion and law of their country.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7422427 - 09/18/07 04:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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If she's trying to change you in the first place, she's not the one.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: SmellyMushroom]
#7422436 - 09/18/07 04:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7423114 - 09/18/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe she doesn't want to build a relationship with someone who could end up spending years in jail.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: PinballWizard]
#7423294 - 09/18/07 11:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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its really hard to say which one is right for you. most people on this site, including myself, love mushrooms and realize them for what they are. however you have to be realistic and understand that mushrooms are not very socially acceptable anymore. most people will turn away from shrooms simply out of ignorance and its sad, but true. you dont want to miss the girl of your dreams because she doesnt understand.
now weather or not this girl is worth it or not is up to you. but i would say if you really like her, and you realy think it would work, take a break from the shrooms for now and go after her. then later on in the realationship hopefully you can help her understand mushrooms and she will respect your decision to do them or not. remember mushrooms will always be here and always available, she might not be.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: XZzyXyzZX]
#7423587 - 09/18/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Drugs before Hos.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: McKennaRules]
#7423833 - 09/18/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hmmm...
if you were doing an addictive or purely fun drug i'd maybe give teh same advice that XZzyXyzZX just has but otherwise it just doesn't make sense.
IMO its better to find someone open minded enough who understands and is educated abotu drugs but doesn't use them and never will but doesn't mind you doign them than someone who thinks they may like you but decides they dont' because you do drugs.
Problem with psychedelics is that they do play quite a significant part of who you are or have become for many people.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7423881 - 09/18/07 01:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's obvious from your post that psychedelics have taught you a lot, and you yourself accept that you're far from getting everything you can out of the psychedelic experience. If the girl wants you to give this up based on her irrational and socially conditioned idea that "drugs are bad", doing it is not the right choice.
It would be understandable if your use of drugs was abusive and harmful, either to yourself or others around you (namely, her), and her asking you to moderate your drug use if it were excessive would be totally reasonable. However, her asking you to give up drugs simply because she dosen't like them and fails to see the innumerable benefits these chemicals can provide one with, is not reasonable.
Put in your situation, I would choose the drugs over the girl. Much as it sounds like the crack head's choice when it's phrased like that, I would prefer to hold on to these tools that can provide me with inner peace, knowledge and connection to the infinite than give in to the whims of an apparently rather ignorant (at least with respect to psychedelics- I'm sure she's intelligent and interesting or the choice would be a no brainer) girl.
In my firm opinion, choosing to give up something which has significantly benefitted your life in hopes of starting a relationship with a girl you may not even end up with at all is not an intelligent choice. It all depends on internal factors, however. Noone can tell you what to do.
Think carefully and decide not only which choice you want to make now, but whether or not you should be changing your lifestyle to please a girl in the first place. Good luck whichever way you go. In the end, you just have to firmly make up your mind about which choice is better for you, then forget about what everyone has told you and just do it.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7423896 - 09/18/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is a drug forum. So duh. DO DRUGGGSSS!!!! That was joke
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: headofmike]
#7424058 - 09/18/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well I actually believe I've made up my mind. I just got home from work and I've been thinking hard about it all day and I feel very clear in my decision which is to give up drugs.
Maybe I didn't explain in my original post clearly enough but some of you seem to have missed the point that we are not together. She has absolutely no obligation to me. She just entered back into my life a few weeks ago, and we are currently just friends. She is fine with being friends with me, and she has no qualms with me doing drugs as her friend. I would normally agree that I should not change who I am, but like a few have said I have gained a lot from psychedelics and although I'm sure there is more I can gain, there is no more I feel I need to gain. I have never been truly happy with who I was as a person until these past few months. If I were to quit now forever I think I would be truly content with what I have gotten out of it.
So like I was saying, as she has no obligation towards me at all. I don't feel I should have any reason to expect her to change for me. I'm the one who wants to be with her after all, so the only thing I can do is control my actions and if quiting drugs will help me get closer to her then I feel that is the best choice for me. Drugs do not define who I am, I am me whether I do drugs or not. I also meditate daily so I feel that I am not at a total loss here, I can always rely on that as well.
Although I've pretty much made up my mind on this matter I would still like to hear any opinions that feel my logic is flawed here, and I will try and listen with an open mind. As well, thank you to all of you who have given your thoughts so far.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7424232 - 09/18/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There are three kinds of people,
those who try a drug once those who experiment with drugs for a while and stop and those who carry on doing them till the end.
Seems like your in camp #2 I was in the same situation as you, and when i met this girl again she was told lots and lots about me being a "drug addict" even though that was not the case. In the end it didnt work out because she had changed alot.
How about... take a break from psychedelics, see if anything comes to fruition with this relationship, and go from there?
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7424351 - 09/18/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like the way you've expressed yourself and despite my insistence that you choose the drugs (hahaha!) I think you should go with what you feel is best.
Just remember not to lose your opinions in any case. DOn't start thinking drugs are bad just because you've stopped taking them etc.:)
No one should be dependent on anything ideally and in teh least IMO we should learn to connect and depend on each other. SO if you are choosing the girl then maybe its teh right decision.
Also I don't THINK anyone missed the point that you're not together as far as I think. You made that clear in your first post.
The only flaw in your logic is "I don't feel I should have any reason to expect her to change for me. I'm the one who wants to be with her after all" which seems to suggest that BECAUSE you like her YOU shoudl be teh one who changes to adapt to suit her.
Whereas both teh second post and the post by EllisDSox seem to indicate that a relationship shouldn't being about fitting to someone elses standards but about finding the right fit.
I agree with this. and think that when two people find a connection and an attraction which is strong it SHOULD make them better people when they progress into a relationship.
It should challenge some of their bad preconceptions and also help them grow as individuals. They should also learn from each other. I think people just simply become better people when they're with the right person.
There's just a part of me that feels thatthis girl isn't open minded or free thinkig and also thats she may not really be into you as much as you are into her. BUt hey, if she's amazing then she's probably worth it.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7424363 - 09/18/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What redpoppy said is pretty much spot on.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7424413 - 09/18/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whereas both teh second post and the post by EllisDSox seem to indicate that a relationship shouldn't being about fitting to someone elses standards but about finding the right fit.
I agree with this. and think that when two people find a connection and an attraction which is strong it SHOULD make them better people when they progress into a relationship.
I would have to say I agree with your post completely. I connect with her on almost every other level besides drug use. Ideally yes it would be best to maybe wait for someone who I can agree with on everything, but I think that is a rare occurance and I would be more than happy to be with this girl.
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There's just a part of me that feels thatthis girl isn't open minded or free thinkig and also thats she may not really be into you as much as you are into her. BUt hey, if she's amazing then she's probably worth it.
I don't think she likes me at all. She has said as much yesterday when I asked her, but she has loved me before so I feel that any chance of it returning is worth it in my mind, I can always go back to drugs if things do not work out.
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The only flaw in your logic is "I don't feel I should have any reason to expect her to change for me. I'm the one who wants to be with her after all" which seems to suggest that BECAUSE you like her YOU shoudl be teh one who changes to adapt to suit her.
I see it as I have a choice of drugs or her, and it's up to me to decide which has a stronger value in my life. Regardless as to what I choose I will not be changing who I am, just the things that surround me as neither of these define me as a person. My values and ideals will remain untouched. I feel maybe that better conveys my original meaning but if not then maybe you're right and my logic is flawed?
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7424449 - 09/18/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7424453 - 09/18/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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many marriages don't last. many pot relationships fade away too. drug testing is rampant in corporate america, so if the girl says no to weed, and if you already learned a lot, and if you have a decent time together , and if your crazinesses mesh (really important) then you are ready to chose the girl over the pot. to live a bit cleaner - work in a more stable environment... to move on. well maybe occasionally you may come accross a healing mushroom don't raise that issue, it's not drugs, it's medicine. leave the negotiation at the pot and leave the pot in the past. it will be great for both of you if you do shroom from time to time or equivalent, but you don't need to have weed and all the social context that weed culture decides for you. make your own decisions.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redgreenvines]
#7424505 - 09/18/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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the chick im in a long relationship with doesnt mind mushrooms at all because i have been able to display to her that they are perfectly natural, and dont harm your body in any substantial ways with moderate use, and contain the fucking great experieces that they inhibit, but on the other hand she doesnt accept my use of marijuana and her argument is simply for the fact that marijuana gets me in trouble.(since i did just, six months ago get arrested for it with happened right in front of her... i was goin fucking nuts) and doesnt really get me anywhere in life i.e. doesnt do anything that great for me. but... just the fact you had to write this thread shows that the choice should most obviously be drugs.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: xFrockx]
#7424524 - 09/18/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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xFrockx said: Some girls are worth quitting drugs for, but the ones who won't listen to a rational argument or understand why you do them are not.
^^this should have been the end of this thread
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7424735 - 09/18/07 05:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I would have to say I agree with your post completely. I connect with her on almost every other level besides drug use. Ideally yes it would be best to maybe wait for someone who I can agree with on everything, but I think that is a rare occurance and I would be more than happy to be with this girl.
I don't think she likes me at all. She has said as much yesterday when I asked her, but she has loved me before so I feel that any chance of it returning is worth it in my mind, I can always go back to drugs if things do not work out.
I see it as I have a choice of drugs or her, and it's up to me to decide which has a stronger value in my life. Regardless as to what I choose I will not be changing who I am, just the things that surround me as neither of these define me as a person. My values and ideals will remain untouched. I feel maybe that better conveys my original meaning but if not then maybe you're right and my logic is flawed?
In that case I agree with your wanting to be with here if you gel on EVERYTHING except drugs.
I imagine about six or seven years ago I could have been in such a place. I kinda just gave up experimenting with drugs but it all came back to me. Now I'm lucky enough to have drugs and what I consider a soulmate who happens to be quite fit But if i had to give up drugs for him I'd do it in a ... well maybe not in a second... but perhaps like three seconds.
but if i were single now and some random guy came along and said "its teh drugs or me" i'd be all "hell no! I love lucy!" 
But the only problem thats left is that this girl isn't into you...
However there's loads of successful relationships which are born of such situations.

Go get her! heh heh. As I said before, good luck!
And not meaning to soudn EXTREMELY cheesy love is a drug that can be teh most beneficial. HOwever it can also be teh most damaging. Sorry that sounded disgustingly cliched and crappy but ... yeah.. sorry.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7424796 - 09/18/07 05:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Well I actually believe I've made up my mind. I just got home from work and I've been thinking hard about it all day and I feel very clear in my decision which is to give up drugs.
Maybe I didn't explain in my original post clearly enough but some of you seem to have missed the point that we are not together. She has absolutely no obligation to me. She just entered back into my life a few weeks ago, and we are currently just friends. She is fine with being friends with me, and she has no qualms with me doing drugs as her friend. I would normally agree that I should not change who I am, but like a few have said I have gained a lot from psychedelics and although I'm sure there is more I can gain, there is no more I feel I need to gain. I have never been truly happy with who I was as a person until these past few months. If I were to quit now forever I think I would be truly content with what I have gotten out of it.
So like I was saying, as she has no obligation towards me at all. I don't feel I should have any reason to expect her to change for me. I'm the one who wants to be with her after all, so the only thing I can do is control my actions and if quiting drugs will help me get closer to her then I feel that is the best choice for me. Drugs do not define who I am, I am me whether I do drugs or not. I also meditate daily so I feel that I am not at a total loss here, I can always rely on that as well.
Although I've pretty much made up my mind on this matter I would still like to hear any opinions that feel my logic is flawed here, and I will try and listen with an open mind. As well, thank you to all of you who have given your thoughts so far.
you're setting up a VERY dangerous power dynamic here. basically you're forming this entire fucking concept of a relationship upon the idea that she is better than you and a prize to be won. a healthy and lasting relationship cannot begin in this manner. you're setting yourself up for a dynamic that revolves around her doling out her "love" (it won't really be love) contingent upon you fulfilling various tasks. a healthy relationship needs to be a process of give and take equally in all respects.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7424877 - 09/18/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i get my hands on girls much easier than on drugs so drugs.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7424927 - 09/18/07 06:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: Well I actually believe I've made up my mind. I just got home from work and I've been thinking hard about it all day and I feel very clear in my decision which is to give up drugs.
Maybe I didn't explain in my original post clearly enough but some of you seem to have missed the point that we are not together. She has absolutely no obligation to me. She just entered back into my life a few weeks ago, and we are currently just friends. She is fine with being friends with me, and she has no qualms with me doing drugs as her friend. I would normally agree that I should not change who I am, but like a few have said I have gained a lot from psychedelics and although I'm sure there is more I can gain, there is no more I feel I need to gain. I have never been truly happy with who I was as a person until these past few months. If I were to quit now forever I think I would be truly content with what I have gotten out of it.
So like I was saying, as she has no obligation towards me at all. I don't feel I should have any reason to expect her to change for me. I'm the one who wants to be with her after all, so the only thing I can do is control my actions and if quiting drugs will help me get closer to her then I feel that is the best choice for me. Drugs do not define who I am, I am me whether I do drugs or not. I also meditate daily so I feel that I am not at a total loss here, I can always rely on that as well.
Although I've pretty much made up my mind on this matter I would still like to hear any opinions that feel my logic is flawed here, and I will try and listen with an open mind. As well, thank you to all of you who have given your thoughts so far.
you're setting up a VERY dangerous power dynamic here. basically you're forming this entire fucking concept of a relationship upon the idea that she is better than you and a prize to be won. a healthy and lasting relationship cannot begin in this manner. you're setting yourself up for a dynamic that revolves around her doling out her "love" (it won't really be love) contingent upon you fulfilling various tasks. a healthy relationship needs to be a process of give and take equally in all respects.
As sad as what enygma says here. It really does sound like the real deal........lol. Im not going to say whether anyone here is right or wrong.
Its all about sharing, and the virtues of selfishness.
Stay selfish and you can possibly get what you want, the drugs or the girl. Nobody here can tell you what selfish action is better. When you are for some reason forced to make such a choice between two totally different and unrelated things, you need to weigh the benefits of each. Selfishness is not a bad thing, but only to a point.
You can read into that all you want. Is there hidden meaning in that. Yes there is. Meaning that reflects enygma's post and others.
Sorry to get all "ayn rand" on your ass. Which is ironic because she didnt believe in taking drugs........lol
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7425665 - 09/18/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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you should turn this thread into a poll
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7425752 - 09/18/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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krypto2000 said: I would have to say I agree with your post completely. I connect with her on almost every other level besides drug use. Ideally yes it would be best to maybe wait for someone who I can agree with on everything, but I think that is a rare occurance and I would be more than happy to be with this girl.
I don't think she likes me at all. She has said as much yesterday when I asked her, but she has loved me before so I feel that any chance of it returning is worth it in my mind, I can always go back to drugs if things do not work out.
I see it as I have a choice of drugs or her, and it's up to me to decide which has a stronger value in my life. Regardless as to what I choose I will not be changing who I am, just the things that surround me as neither of these define me as a person. My values and ideals will remain untouched. I feel maybe that better conveys my original meaning but if not then maybe you're right and my logic is flawed?
In that case I agree with your wanting to be with here if you gel on EVERYTHING except drugs.
I imagine about six or seven years ago I could have been in such a place. I kinda just gave up experimenting with drugs but it all came back to me. Now I'm lucky enough to have drugs and what I consider a soulmate who happens to be quite fit But if i had to give up drugs for him I'd do it in a ... well maybe not in a second... but perhaps like three seconds.
but if i were single now and some random guy came along and said "its teh drugs or me" i'd be all "hell no! I love lucy!" 
But the only problem thats left is that this girl isn't into you...
However there's loads of successful relationships which are born of such situations.

Go get her! heh heh. As I said before, good luck!
And not meaning to soudn EXTREMELY cheesy love is a drug that can be teh most beneficial. HOwever it can also be teh most damaging. Sorry that sounded disgustingly cliched and crappy but ... yeah.. sorry.
Thanks for the support and words of encouragement, you've been a big help 
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enygma said: you're setting up a VERY dangerous power dynamic here. basically you're forming this entire fucking concept of a relationship upon the idea that she is better than you and a prize to be won. a healthy and lasting relationship cannot begin in this manner. you're setting yourself up for a dynamic that revolves around her doling out her "love" (it won't really be love) contingent upon you fulfilling various tasks. a healthy relationship needs to be a process of give and take equally in all respects.
I in no way view her as better than me, not by any means. I love who I am and in no way look down on myself. She is not a controlling person and this is not a normal thing. She does not like drugs and that is it, it stops there. She has never experimented with drugs and she knows nothing about them at all. She just has the notion that 'drugs are bad' and even though she admits she has no reason for thinking that she can't help but feel that way. As I said earlier I'm sure this is just due to social conditioning, and maybe I can convince her otherwise in the future, but for now that is how she feels and there is nothing I can do to change her mind. So it's merely a question of whether I can accept that about her and leave drugs behind or if they are more important in my life, and I have chosen the former.
Sorry that this thread has been going on so long, I feel like I'm just repeating myself now. Thank you guys again for all of your input, I got a lot more responses than I had expected, this is a very helpful community.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: elbisivni]
#7425774 - 09/18/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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elbisivni said: you should turn this thread into a poll
haha, I should have done that from the beginning, that's a good idea.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7425791 - 09/18/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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you forgot depends!

which of course is what pretty much everyone will choose..maybe you can make the the question more specific, or make more specific choices or something..
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: elbisivni]
#7425981 - 09/18/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MGM, as much as I agree with your overall attitude, that's a bad argument. You don't need to be 21 to buy an empty beer bottle, or a bottle opener. It's the substance that matters. Beyond that, the law hardly reflects the dangers and possible benefits of any given substance.
Back to the point though, I'd definitely take drugs alone over a girl that can't handle me taking drugs. I wouldn't be interested in a closed minded bitch in the first place, though.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#7426164 - 09/18/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I in no way view her as better than me, not by any means. I love who I am and in no way look down on myself. She is not a controlling person and this is not a normal thing. She does not like drugs and that is it, it stops there. She has never experimented with drugs and she knows nothing about them at all. She just has the notion that 'drugs are bad' and even though she admits she has no reason for thinking that she can't help but feel that way. As I said earlier I'm sure this is just due to social conditioning, and maybe I can convince her otherwise in the future, but for now that is how she feels and there is nothing I can do to change her mind. So it's merely a question of whether I can accept that about her and leave drugs behind or if they are more important in my life, and I have chosen the former.
i'm not necessarily saying that you feel that she's better than you. However, by doing this sort of thing you're creating a dynamic in which this hierarchy is implicit.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7426198 - 09/18/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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also, quick question, how old are you two?
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7426239 - 09/18/07 10:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Meh. Simple utilitarian thinking. My weed has never screamed at me for 45 minutes because I was 5 minutes late home from work, then collapsed crying into my lap. My mushrooms never get drunk and make out with some teenager at a party while I'm in the next room. My LSD never tells me that, while it still loves me, it's moving out and doesn't want to talk to me for a while.
I've had some bad times on drugs, but nothing like the bad times I've had with women. If you're going on the hunt for a woman who's resistant in the first place, fuck doing it sober. It's going to be nerve wracker and a hard fought battle, and even if you win, the tension will be a permanant feature, one that you'll have to deal with sober.
What's your social situation like? College? High School? Just keep an eye out for a cute hippie chick who's into that shit, and explore mind space with her. And if things don't work out with her, the girl you're after now will know how well you treat women, and that drugs aren't ruining anything for you.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: crumblebum]
#7426880 - 09/19/07 03:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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^^^
but that's the diffrence between "women" and "THE woman"
the real woman will set you free beyond your current capabilites of realisation IMO. A bit like a mind expanding drug.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#7426932 - 09/19/07 05:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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a) drugs are easier to get than a good mate -----(so why opt for drugs, you can always crash and burn out onto a bed of drugs, but can't bet on finding a good mate) b) rational arguments are essentially artificial. -----(rationality is arbitrary, facts are like empty shells)
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: enygma]
#7427138 - 09/19/07 07:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm not necessarily saying that you feel that she's better than you. However, by doing this sort of thing you're creating a dynamic in which this hierarchy is implicit.
I can see your point there and that may be true, I will have to be careful there. One thing though is that we have had a strong relationship in the past and that dynamic was not part of it so I feel that is less of a worry than starting a new one, but you're right it may still be an issue.
I'm 20 and she is 19. We're both currently going to different colleges and live at home, but we live very close to each other.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redgreenvines]
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Me and my co-worker used to have this conversation all the time and we both came to the conclusion that there is no right answer. Drugs make you feel good but sometimes a mate is something you need in life. It just all depends what your situation is. If I had it my way I would have both!
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redpoppy]
#11175481 - 10/03/09 02:40 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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but that's the diffrence between "women" and "THE woman"
the real woman will set you free beyond your current capabilites of realisation IMO. A bit like a mind expanding drug.
You know, I realize that this is an old thread but I just had to say that redpoppy, that ^ was one of the most powerful statements I have read all day. Powerful man, just powerful
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: redgreenvines]
#11175491 - 10/03/09 02:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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redgreenvines said: a) drugs are easier to get than a good mate -----(so why opt for drugs, you can always crash and burn out onto a bed of drugs, but can't bet on finding a good mate) b) rational arguments are essentially artificial. -----(rationality is arbitrary, facts are like empty shells)
^ All the more reason to be naturally pickier or subconsciously observant with the types of girls/women and vice versa (guys/men) one seeks right?
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: skippyluvs]
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Im glad you brought up this old thread. this is the exact situation i am in now and i really feel helpless on this one. On one hand im falling madly in love with this girl, but she hates all drugs. On the other hand I love weed and psychedelics.
I dont think i would be able to convince her to let me keep using drugs. I FEEL FUCKING TRAPPED and it really sucks! This girl is the most amazing, beautiful, intelligent girl ive ever been with in my life and she has her shit together. Her family is awesome. She rides dirtbikes like I do. The love-making is the best ive had. She is literally the girl of my dreams minus the drug part(lol).
THIS BLOWS!!!!!
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: Dudeyourgone]
#11175941 - 10/03/09 04:03 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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The right girl will make you feel the same way as the drugs. Or maybe it's vice versa, but I prefer it ^ that way.
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: Dudeyourgone]
#11176064 - 10/03/09 04:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dudeyourgone said: Im glad you brought up this old thread. this is the exact situation i am in now and i really feel helpless on this one. On one hand im falling madly in love with this girl, but she hates all drugs. On the other hand I love weed and psychedelics.
I dont think i would be able to convince her to let me keep using drugs. I FEEL FUCKING TRAPPED and it really sucks! This girl is the most amazing, beautiful, intelligent girl ive ever been with in my life and she has her shit together. Her family is awesome. She rides dirtbikes like I do. The love-making is the best ive had. She is literally the girl of my dreams minus the drug part(lol).
THIS BLOWS!!!!!
Have you discussed drugs with her? Or does she just dismiss it upon hearing the word.
If it is important to you and you would do drugs for the rest of your life if you could, then you should really seriously tell her why you like it and see if she would learn how to accept them.
But if she is that adamant then it seems like she has had some media programming =/
The 2nd post in this thread is the truest words ive read so far. Dont give up a part of who you are to please someone else. Instead try to open their mind and have them accept you for who you are.
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Edited by Thisfire (10/03/09 04:25 PM)
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: Thisfire]
#11176081 - 10/03/09 04:26 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Besides the fact that this thread is 2 yrs old......
And I didnt read it all......
The answer is invariably.....
Gimmeh tha droogz maaaaan!!!!!!!
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: krypto2000]
#11176345 - 10/03/09 05:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make her quit drinking and if she doesn't fuck her. Do what you want, don't live your life for someone else. You're basically being a slave.
Edit: Although if you meant only drugs or only girls in your entire life, I'd have to choose girls. I would not quit just for one chick though.
Edited by trip forever (10/03/09 05:40 PM)
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Re: Drugs or a girl, which would you choose? [Re: trip forever]
#11176469 - 10/03/09 05:56 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Er I think that depends largely on the quality of the girl and the quality of the drugs. But I'd take a trip over a shag any day, personally.
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