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dr_asterisk
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What could negate my Shroom Buzz
#7421380 - 09/17/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok I'm really bummed. I can't seem to trip off my shrooms. I figure it must be something I'm taking, because my friends are tripping balls. This weekend I ate 3 grams dry...Nothing slight head change. My friends all claimed to be getting decent visuals. Sunday I ate 6 grams... no kidding 6 grams... I was high, the muscles in my legs hurt so bad I could hardly walk, but still no visuals, tonight I ate 35 grams wet thinking that maybe it was the freshness that would get me what I wanted... that was 2 hours ago and yeah I feel it but nothing like what I wanted. I take daily: Vit C, Multi Vit, Potassium, Calcium, Vit E, Glucosamine
And prescriptions: Clonidine and Lisinipril -- Bloodpressure and Luvox -- OCD
As well as a shit load of Caffeine via Diet Coke, about 4L/ day
Could any of this be affecting my buzz? Should I just eat more? is 10grams dry... too much?
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7421401 - 09/17/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drink Vitamin C Shots, Then Smoke! Watch the smoke.
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dr_asterisk
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7421498 - 09/17/07 09:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Luvox is an SSRI how badly will this effect the trip?
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Acyl
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7421601 - 09/17/07 09:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have heard a few times that SSRIs reduces the effects of mushrooms
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: Acyl]
#7422035 - 09/17/07 11:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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ya dood get off those meds or if thats dangerous toke on some DMT
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7422038 - 09/17/07 11:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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SO you tripped Sat, Sun, Mon?
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: Compass]
#7422058 - 09/17/07 11:59 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Could be the meds.. try this
take the powder down with oj or lemon juice, then smoke a bowl or two or a joint, usually right after smoking the trips hit me.
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7422136 - 09/18/07 12:33 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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dr_asterisk said: Luvox is an SSRI how badly will this effect the trip?
greatly, quit for 2 weeks before taking shrooms and u will get full effects
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epilectric
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: DeathCompany]
#7422169 - 09/18/07 12:50 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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it could be the caffeine not sure though
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DeathCompany
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: epilectric]
#7422173 - 09/18/07 12:53 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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epilectric said: it could be the caffeine not sure though
It is most definitely without a doubt the SSRI
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7422640 - 09/18/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You gotta wait at LEAST a week or 2 in-between trips to not get a SIGNIFICANT tollerance buildup.
No matter WHAT your tolerance is, if you eat shrooms essentially 3 days in a row you are going to get next to nothing on the 3rd day without an EXTREMELY larger dose.
I agree, SSRI's have been known to negate shroom trips... I would get off them and plan a trip.
4L of diet cola a day? holy shit! Easy now...
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7422857 - 09/18/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Take a break! 2 weeks minimum.
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#7423135 - 09/18/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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okay honestly i dont think its a good idea for you to stop taking prescription drugs, especially ones that effect the brain, and then take mushrooms. prescription drugs such as SSRIs are not healthy to stop cold turkey, and as mushrooms effect the brain so much, this may intensify your current condition in which you were taking them to begin with. i absolutely love mushrooms, but i think your out of luck on this one mate. you have to be safe and smart before anything else when dealing with drugs of all kinds.
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: DeathCompany]
#7423201 - 09/18/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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DeathCompany said:It is most definitely without a doubt the SSRI
OK, pharmacologically time...
SSRI's work by "SSRIs inhibit the reuptake of the neurotransmitter serotonin (5-hydroxytryptamine or 5-HT) into the presynaptic cell, increasing levels of 5-HT within the synaptic cleft."
However, a side-effect of this is that there is a "desensitization" of the specific 5-HT2A serotonin receptor as the brain chemistry equalizes from the auto-feedback receptors (they tune down how efficiency of how serotonin works in the brain when "overflows" are sensed) - so it takes several months of usage to get this effect and it is all the reason it's critical to never "suddenly stop" these medications. The brain is literally addicted to it's effect it's providing and removing it does not always cause normal function to "kick back in". Be careful on recommendations to suddenly stop your medicine for a high.
OK, back to the 5-HT2A receptor. Psilocin (the phosphorous free molecule from psilocybin) operates on three primary serotonin receptors, 5-HT1A ,5-HT2A and 5-HT3C. Because you've been taking an SSRI which has a side-effect of desensitizing the 5-HT2A receptor, it's going to definitively effect a trip and I don't think high doses will overcome the issue you're seeing.
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Acyl
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: mycocurious]
#7423245 - 09/18/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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DeathCompany
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: mycocurious]
#7423505 - 09/18/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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mycocurious said: Be careful on recommendations to suddenly stop your medicine for a high.
Might i also add that you should keep note on the reason your taking it in the first place. For example if its an anti depressant you will be depressed especially during a trip when your emotions are exaggerated.
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dr_asterisk
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7424109 - 09/18/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its not for Depression its for OCD, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. I had been trying to ween myself off anyway so this is an excellent reason to get off completely.
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7424506 - 09/18/07 04:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe that mushrooms have been studied as a treatment for OCD... not positive though.
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: SDP]
#7425020 - 09/18/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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dont they give the tools that freak out while trippin klonopin at the ER?
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dr_asterisk
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Re: What could negate my Shroom Buzz [Re: dr_asterisk]
#7425534 - 09/18/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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my gf takes Klonopin as prescribed 2mg x2 daily. When I give her shrooms or DXM things get really interesting. She always says she doesn't remember what she did or what happened, but personally I think she is temporarily possessed by Mork.
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