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Glittery caps, blue swirly stems
    #7421356 - 09/17/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My first time with shrooms, I got some especially pretty ones: the caps were gold and glittery almost and the stems were off white with deep blue swirls. I got some pretty bad effects from them, and was just wondering if anyone knew what kind they were (cyanescens vs. cubensis, etc.)?

They gave me a godawful headache, exhausting fatigue, and what felt like a UTI. It was pretty excruciating.

But they were purdy.


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7421374 - 09/17/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

pretty doesnt mean safe


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: Alion]
    #7421400 - 09/17/07 08:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I don't think they were poisonous or toadstools or anything. It's not like I identified and picked them myself, I got them from a reputable dealer. I was just wondering if there's a certain strain that's more likely to cause negative physical effects. (I wasn't having a freak out, I was literally sick all over. No puking or nausea, just achy and tired.)


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7421555 - 09/17/07 09:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Did the caps look mettalic or were there little glittery spots? From your description they sound like dried cubes. The head ache could be from improper drying maybe, honestly Im not sure. Complain to your dealer and get the money back.

And whats a UTI?


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7421608 - 09/17/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

urinary track infection?

ouch


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #7422305 - 09/18/07 02:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, it was the strangest thing. Felt like I was peeing razors. I drank lots of water and it eventually went away as I came down, but...I'll never take so many shrooms again. 1 gram is all I need.

I am extremely allergic to yeast and mold, so I figure that's what went wrong since shrooms are a fungus too. Just a theory. Then again, that particular batch gave one of my friends a headache afterward, too, so...who knows. The next round didn't make us feel so bad.


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7422310 - 09/18/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How much did you take last time? Mushrooms can be a workout on your body and mind.


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7422581 - 09/18/07 07:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like safe cubes. Maybe you had a reaction due to your sensitivities. Maybe a tea would help reduce your negative side effects?  If you are sensitive to mold + yeast, perhaps not ingesting the actual fruit body will have less negative effects on your system.

It could have just been psychological and a form of "bad trip". I would try another batch, in a tea if you didn't already, and see how you fare.  :smile:


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: SDP]
    #7422627 - 09/18/07 07:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Cool...I took more than I should have--like 4-5 grams, I think. At first it was super fun (watching Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory) and the body high was great, but it quickly went down hill for no apparent reason. Just me and my best friend alone in our apartment. It was mentally pretty scary, but I feel like my mind was just taking its cue from my physical symptoms. I now know not to take so many and it seems to help when they're ground up in chocolate. 1 gram gives me the effects I'm after: nice body high with slight visual changes. Thanks for the advice, all!


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7422680 - 09/18/07 08:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If it was your first time and you took somewhere between 3 and 4 grams, chances are you weren't ready for the intensity of the effects. Also, some people do experience more of a "body load" than others from mushrooms. If you think too much about the physical effects they make themselves more apparent to you. I know myself that some trips I feel nauseous and generally sick, but I try to keep my mind off of it and focus my mental energy toward the trip itself.

Each and every trip varies drastically in it's intensity level and effect. Some trips may be focused entirely on certain aspects of the trip, depending on the individual and their expectations.

A certain categorized reaction may be explained by the following...
Quoted from "Handbook for the Therapeutic Use of LSD-25":
"When the drug begins to affect the individual, he tends to concentrate upon the physiological sensations. The strangeness of these becomes alarming to him and his alarm increases the physiological disturbances, altering his perception to a still greater awareness of bodily discomfort and malfunction. The individual may develop physiological symptoms of various kinds such as violent nausea; palpitations; feeling of constriction in the throat and chest; pain at the base of the skull; numbness of the limbs or violent headache. Sometimes he may express a fear of dying."

This excerpt is about LSD, but it is also very relevant to the mushroom trip. My point is that the effects you experienced really aren't that uncommon as a whole. I don't think the mushrooms you had were "bad" but I do think that your trip was heavily influenced by set and setting. If you're not used to a certain psychedelic, especially if you've never tried it before, the physiological effects can seem quite alarming.

My personal advice, if it's actually worth anything to you, would be to try again at a low dose, like you said, around 1 gram. Try and focus on the mental and spiritual aspects of the trip rather than the body high/load. Of course it is easier said than done but I think that you'll have a much easier time concentrating at a lower dose. Good luck and good vibes my friend. :mushroom2:


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MorphMan]
    #7422735 - 09/18/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Great info, morphman! Thanks!


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: MK Ultra]
    #7422841 - 09/18/07 09:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

don't watch a movie either..

i'm not saying you can't watch one while tripping, but i feel to get into the mental aspects of tripping, just some good music and a comfy seat with my eyes closed really takes me to a really good place on a low dose (good music does not equal rap or death metal IME they'll both lead into a bad trip cause so many negative feelings are poured out by the artist in many cases)..

movies tend to make me feel antsy on shrooms, cause i'm focusing so hard on watching it, when i get antsy on any psychedelic thats usually when my body high starts to go downhill..

like has been said many times before setting is everything. when inside i prefer to listen to music in a cool room with the lights off and when i get too cold turn on the heat and turn on the lights sometimes change the music too but not always. there clearly is no right way to trip only what we each are comfortable with, but i find the method i've suggested easy for beginners to control and keep control in. it helps because anytime something starts to go wrong in a trip the best way to avoid it getting worse is to change the environment (ie- lighting change, music change, temp change, room change, activity change.)


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
    #7424255 - 09/18/07 03:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I hate to rain on your parade. But from what ive heard your not the sharpest tool in the shed. in fact your not even in the shed...


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: amatuer5352]
    #7424403 - 09/18/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I hate to rain on your parade. But from what ive heard your not the sharpest tool in the shed. in fact your not even in the shed...




Don't jack this thread faggit...  :samurai:

Sorry for your nasty body load. IME, I've haven't heard/seen/experienced this myself but I would appreciate if I didnt by the sound of it! I agree with the not eating the fruit body thing and making tea idea. Try eating that much produce mushrooms from the grocery and see if it has the same effect?

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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7424618 - 09/18/07 05:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think the sensation of pissing razor blades would scare me away from ingesting mushrooms for a long long time. Ouch. I agree watching movies while tripping has never been fun for me. My minds racing and the movie is just well not entertaining enough. Maybe thats the reason you focused on these sensations and why you felt them more then usual.


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: pazzy]
    #7425269 - 09/18/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i usually put on more cheerfull music and juss get my mind off the physical sensations ( i.e the nausea and stomach discomfort)... it usually goes away once i drift deeper into the trip


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Re: Glittery caps, blue swirly stems [Re: hightimesreader]
    #7425289 - 09/18/07 07:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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agree with the not eating the fruit body thing and making tea idea. Try eating that much produce mushrooms from the grocery and see if it has the same effect?

HTR




great suggestion

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I think the sensation of pissing razor blades would scare me away from ingesting mushrooms for a long long time.




pissing razors isn't that bad once you do it everyday, well it sucks but thats not the point, you can overcome the horrible feeling and accept it and learn to deal with it, although while on mushrooms it sucks hardcore.

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I agree watching movies while tripping has never been fun for me. My minds racing and the movie is just well not entertaining enough. Maybe thats the reason you focused on these sensations and why you felt them more then usual.




i completely agree, a bored mind isn't good while tripping. you need to use your mind when dosed not get dumbed by the television.


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