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OfflineSapphireCat
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Heffy]
    #7430583 - 09/19/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

depends on the person. I don't make much money myself and there's times i'm scraping the cents together to feed myself and i curse myself for giving away any money.

in general though, i'd do my best to help. It goes around, if i give a homeless person a few euro and in turn there's the off chance that my little gesture of sharing may inspire them to treat someone kindly and maybe make someone elses day.

meh all in all i'd say it's a selfish act partially on my part. it does make me feel good to have helped out a little bit. Not really sure about my beliefs either and in my eyes karma would be a just setup. And if it exists or not isn't really important, but i find i've got alot to make up to my fellow man for, and a bit of change, a smoke, a bit of weed.... it's all just a step along the way. If i can share without harming myself...why not? alot of the people in the world are so bitter(myself included, i'm just as bad as everyone else if not worse) and if i can help give someone some hope i think that's worth more than some material goods


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: SapphireCat]
    #7430689 - 09/20/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

im not sure , if i had the money to spare i might buy em a 12 pk of ramen noodles and a bottle of one a day vitamins . that would deff make em feel alot better maybee better enough to try and find a job, idk tho , most homeless people choose to be homeless , aswell as forget how to get a job entirely


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Heffy]
    #7431251 - 09/20/07 06:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> Yes or no

Yes and no.  :smile:

No, not all the time, as I don't want them to become dependent upon me.  Yes, sometimes when I have spare change.  Yes, sometimes when I go to get lunch, I will buy extra, and give the extra away.  I prefer to give food rather than money.


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Seuss]
    #7431407 - 09/20/07 08:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

With me its a "sometimes" as well.

I've always lived in big cities (Chicago, IL and Milwaukee, WI), so I'm confronted by beggars every day.

I cant even put any rhyme or reason to how I operate w/ the homeless. Some days I'll give singles if I dont have change, and some days I wont even gives change if I have it. Its all how I feel that day. But I dont feel obligated to give money to anyone...

I think honesty is certainly a big part of it too. Dont stop me on the street and give me some long spiel about how you are from Cincinatti and your car ran out of gas and your 6 kids are in the backseat w/ your pregnant wife and you just need a dollar to get back on the road.

No, that is nonsense.

If you tell me you really fucking need a drink and a buck will you get a tallboy of CamoXXX, we can probably get you a buck or so. I've been addicted to substances, and its no fun ride. I can empathize.


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7431441 - 09/20/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i gave a bum in baltimore a dollar, but just because he told me where the nearest bathroom was. I don't believe in enabling the bums to be bums, they gotta earn their money.


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #7431820 - 09/20/07 11:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

forreal i once gave a bum a buck to headbutt a stopsign , i was so proud of him for earning the dollar that i even gave him an icecube outta my mc-donalds coke to tend to the swelling.


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: jenns_hot]
    #7432190 - 09/20/07 12:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why not just make a donation directly to the liquor store?


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Heffy]
    #7435146 - 09/21/07 02:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

If you tell me you really fucking need a drink and a buck will you get a tallboy of CamoXXX, we can probably get you a buck or so. I've been addicted to substances, and its no fun ride. I can empathize.






I don't care what they spend it on.
Even if i knew it was going on drugs i don't think it'd affect my decision to give.
That's something you'll never know, i guess if you feel morally wrong then you can decide for yourself whether your small change contributed to their next meal or the next hit (if that applies).

I don't think they should be provided for completely, but living out there can't be easy, however used to it you get.
I don't feel sorry anyone in that situation because i don't know their stories,, but i'm not going to feel judgmental about the few pennies i don't even need..

Most people give because it's spare,, some of the cash they give will go on what most people might perceive as a good use, some won't.

It's money you don't need at the end of the day so even if only 10% of the people you give to are actually really genuinely grateful, then it's worth giving imo (if you're that way inclined anyway,, :laugh: ).


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #7436343 - 09/21/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

fuck bums, my city is crowded with them.
wont see no money from me, no siree.

anybody can work, even them !

if i carry some food however, thats a different story, often gave away a banana or something, but no money !


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Heffy]
    #7484223 - 10/04/07 09:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

when i was young i worked at the circle k at speedway and swan in Tucson. there were bums that would come in there with huge wads of cash. like ghetto gangsta wads. then there was the 30yro guy with the help a vietnam vet sign. i thought that was funny. hes not even old enough :cool:


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Bully]
    #7484299 - 10/04/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

I have a motto with giving money to the homeless - If you are sitting on the ground with a fucking sign, you won't get a dime. The only homeless folks I give anything to are the ones who are actually workin' the streets - Playing music, hailing people cabs, etc. If you are sitting there with a fucking sign that says "feed the homeless" and all these other homeless folks are out here trying to hail me a cab, you better know you ain't gettin' shit from me. Funny thing is, most of the homeless people I come across that actually try to work for your money are almost always black men and most of the folks with signs are white folks. Kind of puts a wierd irony into the old lazy black man stereotype.

There's a guy that lives at Union station; I see him every time I make a trip downtown. I always know where I'm going but somehow this man always spots me and asks me if I need any help getting a cab or finding a bus, because he always has the heads up on whats going on downtown that day. Since he is a really pleasant guy and wears pretty cool shit for being homeless, I let him work for a little cash. He's a really tall black guy with an old school fedora, a pair of raggy jeans, some kind of sweet looking old ass dirty coat and a crackhead limp.

He remembers me now, and since I have always given him shit in the past its kind of become a tradition to talk to him for a few minutes. He usually walks off with about two dollars, a few smokes and sometimes half a joint or so. Ever since the first time I saw him on my way to the Auto Show, I have seen him every single time I have been in that train station.


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Mike_yy]
    #7485957 - 10/04/07 06:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

No I wouldn't. Everyone has SOME kind of chance to make at least enough money to eat. No excuses, its their faults...and I do not pity them. And if they are hungry enough they can go steal food. Worst can happen is they get arrested...and da da da...they have a place to sleep.


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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: aDoS]
    #7492214 - 10/06/07 05:58 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

My sisters friends dad used to put a 50 dollar bill in the middle of a loaf of bread so if the bum really needed it they would get 50 bucks and if they didn't need it then it would most likely be thrown out. One hell of a good idea but you obviously cant do that with every bum you see.


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