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InvisibleZippoZM
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New satellite launching technology
    #7419326 - 09/17/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.launchpnt.com/Space_Launch.32.0.html

its basically just a massive circular rail gun, that accelerates a payload to an astronomical speed and then launches it up into the sky..


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"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7420268 - 09/17/07 03:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I want to ride on it!


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7420848 - 09/17/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Could a person survive a ride on that thing?
Would the acceleration mash them?


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: sherm]
    #7421188 - 09/17/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Could a person survive a ride on that thing? No
Would the acceleration mash them? Yes

Still, it could be a great thing for getting payloads into space.

This was how they got to the moon in Verne's novel, which is odd because he did know it would kill life and always tried to make his novels as scientifically correct as possible.


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: DieCommie]
    #7421773 - 09/17/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How fast does it have to go to get orbital ?

I like it !!


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: cleeen]
    #7421823 - 09/17/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: DieCommie]
    #7422429 - 09/18/07 04:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> that accelerates a payload to an astronomical speed and then launches it up into the sky..

Hmmm... pv=nrt; astronomical speed results in astronomical pressures (at low altitudes) generating astronomical temperatures. Long ago I ran the numbers for the design of a railgun to launch nuclear waste into space. Although the energy requirements were insane, the pressure generated by the atmosphere was the killer.


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: Seuss]
    #7423170 - 09/18/07 11:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

11.2 kilometers per second .

0r 672 kilometers per minute

and 40 320 kilometers per hour

..lets just say 40 000 k/h

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I think a great interesting solution is to be found in reducing sizes as small as possible .


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Nikopol: You piece of shit! Your objectives are shit. Your filthy rapist god ambitions are shit. You're full of shit, Horus!

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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: cleeen]
    #7425745 - 09/18/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

I think a great interesting solution is to be found in reducing sizes as small as possible .


That kind of defeats the purpose of moving things into space doesnt it?


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: DieCommie]
    #7427004 - 09/19/07 06:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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DieCommie said:
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I think a great interesting solution is to be found in reducing sizes as small as possible .


  That kind of defeats the purpose of moving things into space doesnt it?




Nope ..

It changes the scale and accordingly alters the dynamics (for instance the threshold concerns Seuss mentioned)

e.g. Would you send a library of books into space or a Computer hard drive ?

Micro satellites should be able to do much of what bigger units have done in the past . and launching an object about the size of a pack of cigarettes and weighing in the grams scale opens a lot of possibilities . It could fold out into the dish size of a bus .

As far as launching large masses .. into space as opposed to satellites . I am not up on the current stuff, i like the idea of massive solar collectors sending a tight beam of laser light to earth and using that energy channel to reverse engineer an elevator into space personally .

Of course you can send multiple small parts to compile a larger unit as well and the dynamics of moving smaller objects by for instance the  magnetic accelerator may be more effective than sending larger unit packets .

A tight magnetic beam would be cool too :smile:


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Nikopol: You piece of shit! Your objectives are shit. Your filthy rapist god ambitions are shit. You're full of shit, Horus!

Horus: Coming from a human, remarks like that don't carry much weight.

Nikopol: But all that it is not worth of prodigy of your saliva, Jill.


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: DieCommie]
    #7428907 - 09/19/07 04:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

actually, it was a giant cannon propelling a shot with gunpowder. FTW!


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: ZippoZ]
    #7429509 - 09/19/07 07:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow, the cost reduction is incredible.

Good work physicists.


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Re: New satellite launching technology [Re: Acyl]
    #7430598 - 09/19/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So is the payload magnetized ?

or is it really a rail-gun/sling with a release ?


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It's a beautiful lie ..
It's a perfect denial .
Such a beautiful lie to believe in
So beautiful, beautiful it makes me ..


Nikopol: You piece of shit! Your objectives are shit. Your filthy rapist god ambitions are shit. You're full of shit, Horus!

Horus: Coming from a human, remarks like that don't carry much weight.

Nikopol: But all that it is not worth of prodigy of your saliva, Jill.


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