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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Entersandman]
    #7422360 - 09/18/07 03:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Metol anyone?

Anyone wanna go back in time and buy a jug of metol?


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7422373 - 09/18/07 03:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Metol isn't terribly effective. If anything, it enhances the bluing, but i understand that it does not turn the liquid itself blue.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CureCat]
    #7422375 - 09/18/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ha! ive never even seen the chemical myself. only read about it.

so it bring out the bluing reaction more. making it more prevalent to the eye?

damn your up late girl.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7422385 - 09/18/07 03:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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so it bring out the bluing reaction more. making it more prevalent to the eye?



http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5715660#Post5715660


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damn your up late girl. 



Please, I'd prefer to be addressed as "dude" or "mang".

And, late my ass- I'm a night owl.... despite my best interests.
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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CureCat]
    #7422402 - 09/18/07 04:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well damn. my interests at night tend to stay very limited. smoking, growing, gaming, sleeping, eating. nothin too special

my apologies. i wont call you a dude though. sorry. or mang.

if youre of the female sex, your names are lady, girl, ma'am, hot stuff, babe (depending on how i know you), she, her, goddess, and woman.

you pick. :smirk:


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7422751 - 09/18/07 08:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

nice finds my friend, the PNW is so beautifull.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7422762 - 09/18/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In that case, call me "CureCat", "Cat", or "CC", or any other derivative,  but none of the terms listed above.  :argh:

I'll have you know, people who use those terms with me in public (esp. parties, clubs, shows, etc) generally tend to be ignored, and sometimes bribed away.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CureCat]
    #7422933 - 09/18/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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and sometimes bribed away.




:naughty:


:lol:



mushroom john supposedly reported 2 active mycenas, and gartz also ingested them(cyanorhizza) and reported the same, no?
i think mj would have a clear sense of whats active and what isnt, even if he is mashed banana in his noodle.

I have some gill fragments for trade if anyones interested in agar work with this mushroom. it would be cool to see some studies being done on this, wether its just a bunch of people at home or scientists in a lab.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7423475 - 09/18/07 12:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Please, know i am only jesting with you. for the only name i have EVER given you is Curecat. other than girl that once... And i am not this way in person. My mother taught me to respect women while growing up. sorry for straying

only a joke of somewhat poor taste. ignore my ignorance


other than that!

I would love to have these mycena in my collection but i believe it would be put to better use in other peoples collections. Like Workmans.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7424401 - 09/18/07 04:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No worries.  :shakecat:


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CureCat]
    #7424565 - 09/18/07 04:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

lol.

so whos gonna attempt these guys? either in the testing or growing departments.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7424570 - 09/18/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We elect Workman!  :grin:


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CureCat]
    #7424577 - 09/18/07 04:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

jah!


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7424745 - 09/18/07 05:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i sent workman a pm. he hasnt responded yet.

im sure hes probably quite busy.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7424850 - 09/18/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

He is, but I'm sure he'll be interested.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7425979 - 09/18/07 09:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Man, are my ears burning.

Years ago I took a print of a blue footed Mycena in the PNW (I probably still have the spores) that looked identical to these specimens. My collection smelled like radishes when crushed. Unfortunately, the spores didn't germinate on agar for some reason and I was forced to abandon the effort. The spores might need some special treatment or trigger that I am not aware of. Psilocybes and Panaeolus are much nicer in this regard.

I can give it a shot but don't get your hopes up. I can at least do a microscopy workup.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Workman]
    #7427734 - 09/19/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well good luck with that. you are spearheading the research on new psilocybe species and the unknown fungus frontier.

I hope the best man.


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Re: FOUND BLUE MYCENA! - common? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #7428035 - 09/19/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thanks for replying workman :grin:

ill send one prompt and discreet.


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Re: FOUND ACTIVE BLUE MYCENA! - common? PICS!!! [Re: CptnGarden]
    #20041431 - 05/26/14 04:47 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

Any updates here?

I'm currently in contact with John W Allen, asked him about his experiences with M.Cyanorhizza. He had this to say:

Me: (quote from Stamet's PMOTW)
May I ask where you found these Mycena specimens?


John: The first time they were under a pine tree on a ridge leading to West Seattle.  I ate about 22 of them, and they were very short, but no one I ever met referred to a bluing Mycena as 'blue foot or blue-footed before.  The second time was from a lawn where sod was place over older mulch and the condo group where they were are had perpetual lawn care service that was constantly sprayed weekly with liquid fertilizers.,  There were only about 13 specimens and I did not feel anything more than a spin from those.  That was in the early 1970s. I have never seen any since.  New Guinea has a bluing Mycena but I heard it was poisonous.


I know of some locals of my area who consume blue-footed Mycena's, regularly. I'm sending some specimens to John for SEM analysis, going to go foraging tomorrow. While I'm at it, getting specimens of Ps. subaeruginosa, Ps. makarorae, Ps. coprophila, Ps. weraroa, Ps. altucaea  (If I can find this one >_>), Ps. semilanceata and Ps. subsecotioides.

Will keep you all updated.


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Re: FOUND ACTIVE BLUE MYCENA! - common? PICS!!! [Re: formulaic]
    #20041701 - 05/26/14 07:13 AM (9 years, 8 months ago)

I am not totally convinced that blue staining Mycenas are actually active.  Do you know of anyone who actually eats them?  How do they compare with other psilocybin mushrooms?

The blue staining Mycena in the PNW is probably Mycena amicta.  The blue staining on those is different than the blue staining on psilocin containing species - the blue is a slightly different shade, and the blue color goes away completely when the sample is dried.

I wouldn't send Mycena collections to John Allen - He isn't really a Mycena expert.  I would contact Sava on mushroomobserver.org, he might be able to do some real work on them.

I'd also be interested in studying them, and I can do some molecular work (dna analysis). 

The only person in recent times that has reported eating them is Inski.  He said that they made him feel trippy, but also made him sick.  If that's true, that would be the first report of psilocybin mushrooms with toxins also.  But he didn't save any samples and he found them in New Zealand, so it's not the same as our North American species.


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