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shroom_daddy
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Drugs that affect functionality of the brain?
#7417092 - 09/16/07 04:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Which drugs have a long term affect on the user? Which affect ability to produce serotonin, dopamine, etc?
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clemens
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7417170 - 09/16/07 04:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Most drugs don't really affect the brains functionality unless abused.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7417615 - 09/16/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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shroom_daddy said: Which drugs have a long term affect on the user?
All of them *can.....dude If you dont want to learn anything, then I guess that sucks for you.
You know what "learning" does im sure.
Mind-to chemical-back to mind. The origin is chemical in this relationship.
Its a Teeter-Totter. Its also a fractal. If you dont want it to be a part of your fractal, dont use these additives. Psychedelics can effect mood for better or worse. The chemical trends may change.
All of these psychedelics can do this.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: yageman]
#7417688 - 09/16/07 07:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm getting the feeling yage is trippin.
But anywho, in my opinon if something doesn't alter the functionality of your brain then it isn't a drug. I have found that if you use any substance to much for to long then its gonna have some negative affects.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7417701 - 09/16/07 07:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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all of them.
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shroom_daddy
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: porcupine]
#7417719 - 09/16/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Compare the long term effects of psychedelics vs. physically dependent drugs, namely cocaine and heroin. I'll leave speed out of this b/c it eventually fries your brain beyond repair.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: f0rce]
#7417779 - 09/16/07 08:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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f0rce said: I'm getting the feeling yage is trippin.
But anywho, in my opinon if something doesn't alter the functionality of your brain then it isn't a drug. I have found that if you use any substance to much for to long then its gonna have some negative affects.
I have not tripped in 2 years.
I agree with what you said though.
That was just the hppd talking. Hope you liked it.
It actually made sense. I was just trying to paint a picture with words.
In all seriousness though......... I was talking about the chemicals in your brain.
They all effect you permanently in their own special way. Hopefully its in a good way. Thats most often how it turns out. But I have seen otherwise.
You cant just extract a memory or a chemical reaction in your brain and throw it away. You can forget about it. Thats the best you have got though.
The psychedelic becomes a part of the grand neuro-system.
In some ways you could say that it is inherently permanent even after the drug is fully metabolized and exits the body. No Im not tripping.......lol
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: yageman]
#7418155 - 09/16/07 10:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sorry, didn't know you no longer tripped. I did understand what you where saying but it seemed to make logical jumps that I would normally only make when not in this reality :P
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7418174 - 09/16/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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shroom_daddy said: Compare the long term effects of psychedelics vs. physically dependent drugs, namely cocaine and heroin. I'll leave speed out of this b/c it eventually fries your brain beyond repair.
Sorry to burst your bubble but cocaine is not physically addictive.
And no, speed does not eventually fry your brain beyond repair.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: FecalDildo]
#7418192 - 09/16/07 10:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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How is cocaine not addictive? Why does a friend of mine go to Narcotics Anonymous meetings and drug tests twice a week yet she still does it in between (leaves the system just in time). I'm pretty sure thats addicted.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: learningtofly]
#7418197 - 09/16/07 10:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Learn the difference between psychological and physical addictions.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: FecalDildo]
#7418207 - 09/16/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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My bad, more like read the entire post.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: f0rce]
#7418208 - 09/16/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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logic is pliable when attached to language.
What sounds logical to one person might just sound ridiculous to the other.
Such short-hand, and "skips in logic" are very important while tripping.
You get shit done alot faster that way when with the right person.
Teeter-Totter-------> to fractals. Mood-------> to chemical reactions and back to the mood.
I totally understand why you said that. I was just having some fun with those who could read it. Its all for fun.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (09/16/07 10:34 PM)
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: FecalDildo]
#7418313 - 09/16/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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FecalDildo said:
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shroom_daddy said: Compare the long term effects of psychedelics vs. physically dependent drugs, namely cocaine and heroin. I'll leave speed out of this b/c it eventually fries your brain beyond repair.
Sorry to burst your bubble but cocaine is not physically addictive.
And no, speed does not eventually fry your brain beyond repair.
I guess speed is pretty safe then, huh? If you want to be nit-picky and argue that it doesn't fry "beyond repair" I guess it just depends how much and over what time period. But it does fry your brain and if you use over any lengthy period of time, you won't be the same. Have you ever met someone who's been on meth for 5+ years? They're lunatics. 10+, you may not find many. The average life of an addict is somewhere around five years. But if you want to defend it, be my guest.
Edited by shroom_daddy (09/16/07 10:44 PM)
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7418471 - 09/16/07 11:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm 36 now. I've used amphetamines recreationally since I was 17.
Just what is it you're trying to tell me? Do you have any first hand knowledge of this topic or are you just telling me the things that officer Dare told you in school?
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: FecalDildo]
#7418968 - 09/17/07 07:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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drugs that definitely have: MDMA (ecstasy), (meth)amphetamines, cocaine, heroin
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: spammaps]
#7418980 - 09/17/07 07:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MDMA and meth seem to "hurt" the body/brain the most if you will.
I know mushrooms can be seriously dangerous. I'd be more worried about me getting myself killed on high doses of them then the actual psilocin chemical doing anything to my brain.
Then again, that's from eating alot of them fresh instead of a controlled dry dosage.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: suave]
#7419058 - 09/17/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well both ecstasy and cocaine if abused can deplete your reserves of their respective neuraltransmitter. However even more harmful are inhalants. And heroin isn't all that damaging. The only real negative physical effect is the addiction. I suppose that can be damaging enough. Meth, alcohol and mdma are also neuraltoxins so they're all damaging in that way.
You should have added permanently to the end of your question because all drugs work by changing the functioning of your brain. However I assume you meant permanently.
Edited by THEBats (09/17/07 08:43 AM)
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: THEBats]
#7419244 - 09/17/07 10:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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To fecaldildo, the real reason i left speed out of the discussion is because i wouldn't do it myself. All I'm saying is with prolonged use, it is very damaging. No, I'm not an expert, but I do know people(not my close friends thankfully) that have become addicts. But then again, you don't have to be an expert on the effects of methamphetamines to be able to see what it does to people. When I think about the addicts before Meth, they are totally different people. Not to say that these guys were destined for greatness, but they had some potential to be upstanding citizens or nonetheless normal people.
I can believe that you used speed and now you're fine. But to imply that speed isn't detrimental is absurd.
To suave, I've heard that it is extremely hard to overdose on shrooms. Do you have any links or facts about any OD cases? Some say you would have to eat your own body weight in fresh shrooms. However, considering all the variables, I doubt this to be true, believing that a given person could OD on much less that their body weight.
To thebats, yes I suppose permanently would have been a better wording.
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Re: Drugs that affect functionality of the brain? [Re: shroom_daddy]
#7419701 - 09/17/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've aten close to 100 grams wet before. Feels like your brains going to melt...
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