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InvisibleOhhJ
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Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? *DELETED*
    #7398384 - 09/11/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: OhhJ]
    #7398484 - 09/11/07 09:04 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I don't feel like that.... but I'd say, meditate. after a while you will have more control of your thoughts and you can just change your thoughts when you think about these "conspiricies" and such. As for the weed thing, not sure. Reverse tolerance?

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: OhhJ]
    #7398507 - 09/11/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I can relate.  It's tough to find a balance in such situations.

I have not smoked bud in a while and I'm glad.  Cannabis is good for waking you up to the fact that you're alive, and to the fact that the people around you are as complex as you and worthy of your attention.  For that reason I don't regret using at all, even in the times when I felt constantly paranoid and depressed and disconnected from reality.

Where I am at now, I feel that I can relate to people very well and very deeply without cannabis, and I find things very funny and meaningful and find joy in my every day life.  These were the reasons I used cannabis - to find joy and complexity and humor in life - so I'm happy to be able to experience life purely without the herb.  Even though my head is up my ass a lot of the time, I've come to accept that the paranoia that cannabis calls forth is something which outweighs the benefits of being able to see life with one layer of bullshit removed.

Do you have personal experience feeling your chakras?  The last few times I've smoked, I have become acutely aware of my chakras, and they are absolutely an aspect of your being, and perhaps the most important aspect of your being.  Maybe laying off the weed and looking into different kinds of meditation would do you some good.

You can't go wrong, in my opinion.  If you keep smoking, you may call forth so much internal drama that you are forced to radically change your reality.  If you stop, you will likely become more grounded and maybe sort out some issues, so that if you decide to get high again you will see the way you've grown as a person.

Good luck. :heart:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? *DELETED* [Re: Lion]
    #7398710 - 09/11/07 10:00 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: OhhJ]
    #7398739 - 09/11/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It is rare to be interested in balancing oneself, getting away from negativity, taking up a spiritual path.  Most of my friends don't give these things much thought either.

I'll cut and paste a post that Quoiyaien made a few weeks ago in the Philosophy & Spirituality forum, because it's one of the best things I've read about the practice of meditation:

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Here is my favourite essay on meditation. It is by Dogen zenji, and it is called the "Zazengi" or "How to Sit":

Studying Zen means practicing zazen. A quiet room is good for zazen. Spread out a thick mat. Do not let drafts or vapours enter. Do not let rain and dew leak in. Take care of the space you are in. There are traces of those who have sat on the Diamond Seat and those who sat on slabs of stone, but all of them used a mat of wild grasses.

The place for zazen should be bright, not dark, both day and night. It should be warm in winter and cool in summer. Shed all entanglements and stop doing this and that, the ten thousand things. Don’t think of good. Don’t think of bad. It is not a matter of mind, intention, or consciousness; it is not a matter of thoughts, ideas, or perceptions. Zazen is not self-consciousness or self-contemplation. Don’t sit to become a Buddha. Release ideas of sitting and lying down. Eat and drink moderately. Do not waste time but practise zazen as if your hair were on fire. Study the example of the Fifth Ancestor on Huangmei shan, who did nothing other than simply practice zazen.

When you practice zazen wear the kesa and use a round cushion. The cushion does not go under the thighs; it goes under the buttocks. Place the front edge of the cushion under your buttocks so that when you cross your legs they rest on the mat. This is the way that the Buddhas and Awakened Ancestors have all sat in zazen. Sit in either the full or half lotus posture. In the full lotus, the right foot is placed on the left thigh and the left foot on the right thigh. The toes of each foot should be aligned with the thighs, not extending past or slid down. In the half lotus just put the left foot on the right thigh.

Loosen your robe and belt and keep them neat. Place the right hand on the left foot, the left hand over the right hand. Then put your right hand palm up on your left foot and put your left hand in the palm of your right, the tips of the thumbs touching lightly. The top of the thumbs should be level with the navel. Sit up straight, leaning neither to right nor left, forward or back. Your ears should be aligned with your shoulders, and from the front, your nose in a direct line with your navel. Place your tongue against the roof of your mouth keeping mouth and lips closed. Your eyes should be open and you should breathe gently through your nose. Having aligned body and mind, exhale deeply. Sitting in balance and stillness like a mountain, think of "not-thinking." How? Be "Before Thinking."

This is the essence of zazen. Zazen is not meditation. It is the Dharma Gate of great ease and joy. It is stainless realized-practice.


(Presented to the monks at Kippo-ji, in the Yoshida District of Esshu,
November 11th, 1243.)

:heart: Peace :heart:

:hippie:


Life is challenging; 'feeling normal', 'understanding my mind': These are ongoing processes.  There is nothing static in this life!  But just the knowledge of the importance of understanding your true nature is a good start, and can lead to wonderful things.  I think you'll be fine.

PM me any time.  I can't do much for you but I can recommend books that have helped me and things of that nature!

Peace and much love,
bug


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: OhhJ]
    #7401001 - 09/12/07 02:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I really want to just feel normal.

Famous last words.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: Icelander]
    #7404070 - 09/13/07 08:34 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

personally, this has happened to me many times, and it wasnt beacuse of the pot, but an underlying problem in my life.

usually enough time off from smoking would help reverse the problem, as would actually dealing with what was causing the problem in the first place...

hope that helped


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"in times of widespread chaos and confusion, it has been the duty of more advanced human beings - artists, scientists, clowns, and philosophers - to create order. In such times as ours however, when there is too much order, too much m management, too much programming and control, it becomes the duty of superior men and women and women to fling their favorite monkey wrenches into the machinery. To relieve the repression of the human spirit, they must sow doubt and disruption"

"People do it every day, they talk to themselves ... they see themselves as they'd like to be, they don't have the courage you have, to just run with it."

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: Lion]
    #7405315 - 09/13/07 05:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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bug said:
I can relate. It's tough to find a balance in such situations.

I have not smoked bud in a while and I'm glad. Cannabis is good for waking you up to the fact that you're alive, and to the fact that the people around you are as complex as you and worthy of your attention. For that reason I don't regret using at all, even in the times when I felt constantly paranoid and depressed and disconnected from reality.

Where I am at now, I feel that I can relate to people very well and very deeply without cannabis, and I find things very funny and meaningful and find joy in my every day life. These were the reasons I used cannabis - to find joy and complexity and humor in life - so I'm happy to be able to experience life purely without the herb. Even though my head is up my ass a lot of the time, I've come to accept that the paranoia that cannabis calls forth is something which outweighs the benefits of being able to see life with one layer of bullshit removed.




Thanks for being so well-spoken. =]


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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: lukeboots]
    #7408197 - 09/14/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Sounds like your basic exisential realization, and the crisis type stuff that comes along with it. Welcome to the club. You'll eventually let go of your old world view and become more comfortable in the new one. It's not going to go away. Just don't concentrate on all of the negative that you now realize is there. There is also good.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: jonathanseagull]
    #7413068 - 09/15/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Good advice.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: Icelander]
    #7416390 - 09/16/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

That really is good advice. I went and am going through the same things. Just growing into an existential dillema. Just DON'T be negative because I swear to god almighty it doesn't help a damn thing.


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Re: Am I insane or does anyone else feel this way? [Re: OhhJ]
    #7416543 - 09/16/07 12:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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OhhJ said:
Recently I felt the need to stop smoking pot because anytime I would get high I felt 100% uncomfortable. This started more so after smoking a blunt with some friends and realizing, "that I really exist, and this is really happening." For weeks I could not get over this realization.




I try to immerse myself in that realization as much as I can... its called being aware of the present moment, and its an interesting phenomenon, because we really are existing in this moment, and it is really cool to have this opportunity to exist, even if the nature of this existance is entirely unknown. :smile:

That said, I know how you feel. I've had moments where I've become more conscious in the moment then I'm accustomed too, and it can be uncomfortable. I think you simply need to realize that the universe is benevolent, that everything is fine, and there is no reason to panic. Being more aware enables one to provide for oneself if one relaxes, one understands.

Relax, go with the flow, we choose this. :levitate:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

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