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What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? * 1
    #7416371 - 09/16/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm thinking of getting back into it, it was quite fun to research and do readings

And though my friend didn't believe in them, he ALWAYS got the Tower


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7416606 - 09/16/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Boards don't have opinions.

People have opinions.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: JacquesCousteau] * 1
    #7416994 - 09/16/07 04:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well this board is made up of people so I'd figure I'd ask then tally the responses

What's yours?


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7417127 - 09/16/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think they are more for entertainment purposes really. I may be inclided to think someone was gullable if they took tarrot too seriously.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7417241 - 09/16/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Sorry, but I have been warned not to give an opinion counter to the prevailing belief in magic even when asked directly. Will have to do this in PMs.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Galvie_Flu] * 1
    #7417565 - 09/16/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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centrum said:
I think they are more for entertainment purposes really.




Message boards, or tarot cards....?    :wink:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: PhanTomCat] * 1
    #7417793 - 09/16/07 08:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Message cards :smirk:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #7417858 - 09/16/07 08:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Tarot boards....?    :smirk:

:tongue:

Life IS entertainment....    :wink:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: PhanTomCat] * 1
    #7417871 - 09/16/07 08:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:getstoned:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: MushroomTrip] * 1
    #7417874 - 09/16/07 08:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:grin:

:getstoned:

(and my pizza just got here - perfect timing....!)

:woot:  :woot:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: PhanTomCat] * 1
    #7419461 - 09/17/07 11:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck I wat some pizza


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7419908 - 09/17/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

As long as you see the readings as 'possibilities' there is no end to fun and exploration.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7422476 - 09/18/07 05:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Hyper_Panda_GO said:
Fuck I wat some pizza




This forum is too slow for me to complain about keeping on topic,
I watt some pizza too, it sucks working nights, cause everything is closed!

Anyway, I've heard the words Torah, Thought, Truth and Church all come from the word(s) T.A.R.O.T.

I think the Tarot is a map of the Psyche and a method of it's transformation,
and wasn't originally used as a fortune telling or divination device...

Ever notice the major Arcana are all the same person?

I've been studying Crowley's Book of Thoth deck and all I can say is WoW... aHa!


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #7423057 - 09/18/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

True story here.... 

I have the deck of tarot cards that has dragons on it (I collect dragons - to a lesser extent now)....
I had met this chick, and we were interested in each other, and she came over and we got on the tarot card subject, so I went and got my deck....
She knew what the cards meant, and did a reading for me by laying the cards I chose into a formation....

The reading (according to her) said that there was a new important relationship starting to form in my life, and will blossom into something big....
That was the jist that I remember, there was much more to it (it happened over a year ago)....
We spent the rest of the day together doing various things - mostly chatting about different things, and had a genuine good time....

Then, I never saw nor heard from her again....
I know I took a shower and brushed my teeth that day....!?    :tongue:
I think the tarot card reading scared her away....    :shiftyeyes:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: PhanTomCat] * 1
    #7426028 - 09/18/07 09:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Personally I think it's a load of BS, but yeah that may just be me.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: astronaut] * 1
    #7426534 - 09/19/07 12:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The Tarot for divination is ok but I prefer the I-Ching. Usually I do a reading for the same question using the Tarot, I-ching and Runes.

But the Tarot is an excellent tool for studying and contemplating the Qabalistic tree of life. The Tarot is a pictoral representation of the Qabalistic Tree of life through the 4 Qabalistic worlds which are depicted by the 4 suits.

22 trumps are the 22 Hebrew letters which are the connecting paths of the tree.

Cards 1-10 are the 10 Sephiroth.

The 4 suits are the emenations of the tree through the 4 Qabalistic worlds and are also a manifistation of the name of God YHVH.

The 4 Court cards are the personification of the name of God YHVH as the Father, the Mother, the Son and the Daughter (which Qablistically are called Abba, Aima, Zauir Anpin and Malkah) and are represented through the 4 worlds/suits.

That the tarot is a pictoral representation of the tree of life is its most valuable characteristic imho.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Shnezbit] * 1
    #7438396 - 09/21/07 09:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Tarot is BS, but it can be fun for ten minutes.

I-ching is pure evil. If your "friends" try to pull out the i-ching, its time to leave. Just get up and go, make a lame excuse if you have to. It is best to be abrupt so you don't get hit again.

I was given this advice years ago; Had my first i-ching experience roughly one year ago. I really wish I had paid more attention to the advice.

If you find yourself sucked into i-ching, you have fucked up pretty bad and your night is basically screwed. The best thing you can do to remediate the situation is try to lose the pieces. Its best to accidentally throw them under the radiator, there are lots of holes under there and they may never be found. If there is no radiator within throwing distance, your best bet is to toss them so they go under the couch, or pocket them when no one is looking.

I-ching is like a police interrogation - under NO circumstances should you consent.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #7439096 - 09/22/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I completely forgot I made this topic


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #7439694 - 09/22/07 08:06 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Tarot is BS, but it can be fun for ten minutes.

I-ching is pure evil. If your "friends" try to pull out the i-ching, its time to leave. Just get up and go, make a lame excuse if you have to. It is best to be abrupt so you don't get hit again.

I was given this advice years ago; Had my first i-ching experience roughly one year ago. I really wish I had paid more attention to the advice.

If you find yourself sucked into i-ching, you have fucked up pretty bad and your night is basically screwed. The best thing you can do to remediate the situation is try to lose the pieces. Its best to accidentally throw them under the radiator, there are lots of holes under there and they may never be found. If there is no radiator within throwing distance, your best bet is to toss them so they go under the couch, or pocket them when no one is looking.

I-ching is like a police interrogation - under NO circumstances should you consent.




Anyone who says the Tarot is BS has NO IDEA what they are talking about, imo.

Why do you think the I Ching is "pure evil"?

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You said that no one is going to come to the bottom of the Tarot. Why is that?

Because it is a fractal or holograph. Its permutations are endless. I always maintain that the Tarot is the authentic Emerald Tablets of Hermes. It is the Book of Life. The 22 Major Trumps correspond to the Egyptian, Hebrew, Celtic and English Magical alphabets, to the Kabalistic Tree of Life, the Chakra system, to the Alchemical Magnum Opus, to sacred Numerology, the physical orbit and movement of the luminaries and planets, to the Precession of the Equinoxes, the Process of Human Individuation, the yearly maturation of the human-being, the Personality Types, the zodiac, the sequence of the historical centuries (1st - 21st), the Periodic Table of Elements and several other esoteric and exoteric phenomena. It has endless correspondences connecting to Astro-Theology, geometry, numerology, cosmology, psychology, symbolism, general aesthetics, and so on. It communicates in non-linear symbols and that makes it very important for the future, and for the re-education of humankind. - M. Tsarion




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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #7441639 - 09/22/07 07:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

There's more than one use for Tarot.

I don't use mine anymore but always liked them for meditation when I did. For me they weren't able to divine but were used as a tool to focus for divination.

But as for reading for other people, it just seemed so pointless, they are gonna do what they want anyway. And I got tired of defending using them. I prefer yoga now, although where I live that's considered kooky too.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: mushbaby] * 1
    #7442805 - 09/23/07 03:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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There's more than one use for Tarot.

I don't use mine anymore but always liked them for meditation when I did.  For me they weren't able to divine but were used as a tool to focus for divination.




That's what I'm sayin' :thumbup:

The cards can be used as Talisma (persona folders/partitions) and as such should never be seen or touched by others...


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7443009 - 09/23/07 06:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My opinion on this. I used to have tarot cards and books on it and would use it. Also I practiced astrology, and wrote computer code to calculate the various transits and progressions.

I no longer have anything to do with these occult practices and now consider them works of darkness.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: fivepointer] * 1
    #7443021 - 09/23/07 06:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You have a right to your opinion.

I would just like to point out that Religion uses FEAR to keep people from using EMPOWERING techniques.
It is strictly a socio-political control mechanism going all the way back to Constantine and the "Holy" Roman Empire.

A simple objective review of world history will show that the Xtians have done the most horrific Evils,
and the Gnostic followers of Horus (not Set/Saturn/Satan) have been the Occult (read: HIDDEN) keepers of the Light.

But that's just my opinion, and I'm not trying to change your mind.  :shineon:

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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Middleman] * 1
    #7443058 - 09/23/07 06:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This is off topic I know, but I never understood why so many Christians had such a dim view of astrology. If you believe God created the universe why is it so wrong to believe he did it with a pattern in mind? The Bible, which doesn't make the 3 Wise men out to be demons, states that they knew about the birth of Christ from the stars.

But back to Tarot, I was just starting to learn about the Tree of Life when I put them away. It was so complex but extremely interesting. If I ever picked them up again it would be for this reason.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: Hyper_Panda_GO] * 1
    #7443145 - 09/23/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Most likely just cold reading,
as with astrololgy.

Take any horoscope of any sign and read it as if it was yours - they will all fit with the same rate of accuracy.

Research cold reading - its been used for centuries as a method of telling someones fortune, it is the same method used in most prediction systems but is not a true prediction method at all.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: mushbaby] * 1
    #7445047 - 09/23/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Astrology was also designed around the seasons of Europe, so all the things they say should have no real meaning to someone born of a different culture with different seasons.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: freddurgan] * 1
    #7445719 - 09/23/07 09:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Most in -depth astrological readings take into account the location of your birth not just the day.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: freddurgan] * 1
    #7447948 - 09/24/07 02:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The seasons are only another shown description of the 'cycle', which is inherently perceivable everywhere else :wink:


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: BlueCoyote] * 1
    #7447976 - 09/24/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: AlteredAgain] * 1
    #7458884 - 09/27/07 05:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

tarot is a good deck of associated symbols
it is good for studying symbols and association.

divination is another matter.
it is a kind of proxy thinking.

you can use any forms of augury in divination, and it won't necessarily be well formed divination.

proxy thinking has been in use in ritual and natural magic forever. when something is not well understood but people have to proceed beyond the limits of understanding, the proxy is dealt with instead -with varying degrees of effectiveness - the proxy being a symbol of the idea, task, illness, or problem.

thousands of gods have been invented as proxies, and religions have been built of rituals to these proxies.

the interesting thing about all that proxy magic is that a person can be conceived as a huge bag of ignorance, practicing rituals and knowing that this disconnect or connect through proxy is going to be enough...


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: mushbaby] * 1
    #7463124 - 09/28/07 05:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I believe the Tarot can give accurate, informative, and interesting readings. This definitely seems more likely when done by an experienced Tarot reader, however.


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: mushbaby] * 1
    #7463142 - 09/28/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Personally I have had runes and tarot cards and I threw them in the trash a long time ago. Notice both say not to do more than once in a few week period? It is because they will say something totally different everytime. They aren't fake but they don't tell, only create. You are casting that reading over the person and it is the spell you created without knowing that makes them seem accurate....runes are worse...you can draw any combination of runes and it will agree with some part of your life...it is all BS as far as divination goes....just spell casting that is camouflaged...I was a practitioner of general magick for a while, eclectic in everything and just like anything you buy at an occult shop, hate to break it to ya but if it worked it was in your head...like the parker brothers ouija...now if it was a witch board that would be different...sucks that, myself included, that we want to believe it is real so bad that we miss it when it is obvious that it isn't


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Re: What's this board's general opinion on the Tarot? [Re: rizingfire] * 1
    #7469167 - 09/30/07 05:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Say you believe in fate in some way. And you also believe that there is some way of deciphering whats going to happen next from previous events... so that which card appears is an indicator of whats going to happen next, kind of like a domino effect. Which wouldn’t work, because a series of cards is too little data to make a prediction on. Unless there was some kind of force you were communicating with which has the power to make the cards tell you the future by some how manipulating what cards occur. Or if you think the cards are some how connected to the basic way the universe operates and will always show you things.... I don’t know, I’m just kind of brain storming, i don’t really believe in the cards, although i do think the symbolism of it is very cool and could be used as a way to explore the mind, because human thought works on symbols alot.


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