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OfflineBrAiN
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my cat keeps shitting on the carpet
    #7416305 - 09/16/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I got her in November of last year. She was fine until January when she started shitting all over the carpet. There was a time where she was consitpated early in the year and we got her fixed up. She started pooping in the littler box again 95% of the time and then it got worse. then better, and now it's worse again. It's been almost 9 fucking months since she's had this problem. Someone HELP! Even during the months where she used the litter box she would only use it maybe 4 out of 5 times.

We've tried different types of litter boxes.. with lids on and off.. different parts of the room... different types of litter and nothing helps. We've used multiple boxes at a time. We've even LOCKED her in the bathroom with three different boxes for days at a time, pumping her full of laxative and she refused to shit for the entirety of the few days. I know it wasn't a physical thing because after we'd let her out, within 5 minutes we followed her stealthily and caught her trying to poop under the fouton.

I don't know what else to do. I've tried every single thing I can thing of. sand type litter, rock style litter, pellet style litter.

I'm about to try thinking "out of the box" so to speak. My plan today is to go to home depot and buy a BUNCH of small cacti and lay them in all the corners she likes to crap in.

Has anyone else had this problem and successfully worked through it?


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416392 - 09/16/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:lol: that sounds so totally shitty! :grin:


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Skunk420]
    #7416398 - 09/16/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Build a litter box with really high walls, and plop your feline inside .


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416492 - 09/16/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That's really strange that you've tried all that stuff and she continues to go outside the litter box.

Maybe have her checked out by a vet to see if she has IBS or something? Cats can get that.

Also, I'm assuming that when you clean it up you use some sort of enzyme cleaner to get the smell totally out of the carpet? If not, you should, or she'll keep going in that spot because it smells like it.

I've had lots of cats here, I foster them, and I've never had one with this issue. They all use the litter box just fine. We use Yesterdays News kitty litter, and they seem to be fine with it.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Liz]
    #7416510 - 09/16/07 12:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yea i use one of those pet odor/stain removers everytime.

It's a bummer.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416602 - 09/16/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i guess you could try to take a dump on her while she is sleeping and see how she likes that. that's pretty out-of-the-box.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7417902 - 09/16/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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i guess you could try to take a dump on her while she is sleeping and see how she likes that. that's pretty out-of-the-box.




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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: StonedShroom]
    #7417913 - 09/16/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

follow her around with a little plastic baggy for a few days


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: danlennon3]
    #7418026 - 09/16/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i have a kitty too and i've never had that problem either. Maybe you should check with the vet and like liz said you must ensure that you get the smell out of the carpet or she'll think it's okay to poopy there and maybe instead of putting cactus in the corners have you tried to put the litter box where she poops? like where your futon is put the litter box there? and is the litter box clean? kitties dont like to poop in dirty litter boxes. my cat uses purina clumping litter


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: danlennon3]
    #7418028 - 09/16/07 09:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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follow her around with a little plastic baggy for a few days



Nah, cause they she'l get used to it, and make you her bitch.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7418191 - 09/16/07 10:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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BrAiN said:

I don't know what else to do.



Rub it's nose in it and hit it with a rolled up newspaper and then put the poop in the litter box as you drag the cat with you and show the cat the poop in the litter box. This worked for both of my dogs. It can't hurt to try on a cat.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #7418231 - 09/16/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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It can't hurt to try on a cat.





ROFL Try that with my cat. lol

I guess you would just have to be familiar with this particular feline demon.

Many of my friends are and wear the scars. lol

Strange and stubborn problem you have. I've encountered similar a couple of times and they are now outdoor kitties. Cats sometimes have a mind of their own and there is not much you can do about it.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7418270 - 09/16/07 10:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Urinating Outside of the Litter Box

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Inappropriate elimination (urinating or defecating outside of the litter box, and/or spraying) is the most common behavior problem of older cats. There are numerous causes for this behavior, many of them medical, so a cat who has inappropriate elimination should be examined by a veterinarian. Laboratory tests will need to be performed in most cases.

Contributing factors to inappropriate elimination

Medical conditions: Medical conditions which result in an increased frequency of urination or defecation may be the underlying cause for this behavior problem. These conditions include: colitis, inflammatory bowel disease, diabetes mellitus, hyperthyroidism, kidney or liver disease, and feline lower urinary tract disease (FLUTD). Medical conditions which cause pain urinating or defecating, or make it difficult for the cat to get in and out of the litter box, may also result in inappropriate elimination. Such conditions include arthritis, FLUTD, anal sac disease, loss of vision, and some forms of colitis. Treatment of these medical conditions may help to resolve this behavioral problem. In addition, using litter boxes with lower sides, placing the litter box in the area in which the cat spends the most time, and increasing the number of litter boxes may be helpful.

Stress: Stress can be a major cause of inappropriate elimination in cats of all ages. Stressors such as moving, changes in routine, or changes in the makeup of the family can result in inappropriate elimination. Reducing these stressors or decreasing their impact on the household will benefit your cat (and probably you, too!). For instance, when moving, attempt to keep the cat in a quiet portion of the home when packing and during the actual moving day. At the new residence, confine your cat to a quiet room at first (probably a bedroom), placing her food, water, litter box and favorite sleeping material (bed, sweatshirt, etc.) in the room. Spend time with her in that room and feed her and clean the litter box at the usual time. Gradually let her become accustomed to the rest of the house.

There is a product called 'Feliway' which was designed to help reduce anxiety in cats, and thus decrease spraying or urinating inappropriately. Feliway contains pheromones from the cat's face. Pheromones are chemicals which are used to communicate with other members of the same species. You may notice your cat rubs her face and chin on vertical surfaces. She is leaving a scent there which contains these pheromones. The pheromones from the face have a calming effect on other cats. When Feliway is sprayed onto multiple vertical surfaces which your cat may spray, the cat receives this calming effect and in many cases, spraying will be reduced.

Substrate preference: cat in litter boxCats of all ages may develop an aversion to the litter box or substrate (material inside of the litter box). Some of the litters with a 'perfume' or 'antiseptic' smell may dissuade some cats from using them. Trying different types of litter including clumping litter, sand, newspaper, and no litter are things that could be helpful.

Box location: Some cats may not like where a box is located. It may be located too close to their food or water. It may be in a high traffic area where they cannot have privacy. It may be in an area where they can be easily ambushed by another cat. It may be on a different level of the house than where they spend most of their time. In addition to trying various substrates, also place extra boxes around the house to see if box location makes a difference. There should always be at least one more litter box than the number of cats in the household.

Sanitary conditions: Some cats are very particular. Some will not defecate in the same box in which they urinate. Others will not go in a box which has been used by another cat. Just as we do not like to use dirty bathrooms, neither do many cats. If the litter box is not cleaned regularly, they may decide to find a different bathroom.

Possible Solutions to Inappropriate Elimination

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Have your cat checked by your veterinarian for a possible medical condition, and start treatment for the condition if one exists. If the cat is extremely stressed, talk to your veterinarian about some medications which may help.
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If you have multiple cats and do not know which one is the culprit, your veterinarian can give you some fluorescent dye to feed one of the cats. The urine from that cat will fluoresce when exposed to a black light.
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Place numerous litter boxes around the house. You do not have to use anything fancy: dishpans, large plastic containers or other items may work just as well. Try a larger litter box, some behaviorists feel litter boxes are often too small.
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Use different substrates including newspaper, clumpable and nonclumpable litter, sand, sawdust (not cedar), carpet remnants, and no litter at all. Use unscented litter, since many cats do not like the scented kind. If you find the substrate that your cat prefers is not the one you do, e.g., carpet remnants, try slowly converting the cat back to litter. Place a small amount of litter on the carpet remnants the first week, and if all goes well, use more litter each week until you can finally remove the carpet remnants from the box.
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Try different depths of litter. Many people put too much litter in the box. Some cats like only a small amount.
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Clean any soiled areas with an enzyme cleaner designed for use on pet urine and stool. Regular detergents and other cleaners will not break down the urine or feces, and if the cat smells any urine or feces on a carpet or floor, the cat may continue to use that spot to eliminate. In some cases, the carpet or carpet padding may need to be replaced.
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woman cleaning a litterboxClean the litter boxes at least once daily. Wash the litter box weekly. Do not clean the box with a strong smelling disinfectant, but rinse the box well after washing it.
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Feed the cat where she is inappropriately eliminating. Many cats will not urinate or defecate in the area in which they are fed.
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Use upside down carpet runners (the ones with the spikes on the bottom), heavy plastic, aluminum foil, double-sided tape, motion detectors, pet repellents, or scat mats to limit her access to the area where she inappropriately eliminates.
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Try Feliway, as described above. Be sure to follow the manufacturer's recommendations.
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Take your cat to the litter box frequently, and if she uses it, praise her, or even give her a treat.
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If you catch your cat in the act of urinating or defecating outside of the box (or even using the digging motion), use a remote correction. This generally means doing something that will startle her. Tossing a pop can with a few coins inside of it and taped shut toward the cat (but not at her!) may get her to stop. Foghorns, whistles, and water pistols are other options. It is best if she does not associate you with the correction, but thinks it 'comes out of the blue.'
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Do NOT punish the cat. Punishing the cat, including rubbing her nose in the soiled area will not help, and will probably increase the stress on the cat.
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In some situations, it may be helpful to confine the cat to a small room with food, water, toys, bed, and litter box. Once she is using the litter box in the smaller area, gradually allow her into larger areas of the house


http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=1&cat=1310&articleid=158

http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=3288


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7418327 - 09/16/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Get rid of the cat. :shrug:


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: TurntableJunky]
    #7418349 - 09/16/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

a new cat would work


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: babytigger]
    #7418885 - 09/17/07 05:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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i have a kitty too and i've never had that problem either. Maybe you should check with the vet and like liz said you must ensure that you get the smell out of the carpet or she'll think it's okay to poopy there and maybe instead of putting cactus in the corners have you tried to put the litter box where she poops? like where your futon is put the litter box there? and is the litter box clean? kitties dont like to poop in dirty litter boxes. my cat uses purina clumping litter




Yes yes yes yes and uhh.. yes..


I told you.. I've tried everything. It's been 9 months.. trust me.. eveything conceivable and reasonable.. I've tried it. I've read every pamphlet there is on the subject.. every message board on the subject... the cat has gone to the vet about 6-7 times this year and I bring it up everytime and they're clueless.

It's time to use desperate measure..

Maybe I'll go to the Home Depot and hire a dayworker to follow her around my apt 24-7.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Brainiac]
    #7418887 - 09/17/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

tried the stuff that helps reduce anxiety in cats

Had the vet look into it.. she's fine. She was constipated a while back but not anymore. In fact... I know the entire reason is psychological and not a physical/medical reason because of when I locked her in the bathroom and covered the floor with multile litter boxes and she didn't poop for days and immediately started looking for a place to shit when she got out

And she's not old.. only 2 years old

And I'm not going to get rid of her.. anyone here who has a pet knows it's not that simple..

Although.. I did think about it when the problem started


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: BrAiN]
    #7440576 - 09/22/07 01:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

start using stuff besides cat liter, sand, old newspaper, barley, grains, dirt
u may just have a crazy cat though, thats cool your not sending it to the shelter though


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: 5150]
    #7440652 - 09/22/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: coAsTal]
    #7440672 - 09/22/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

jesus christ, just rub the cat's nose into the pile of shit and kick his ass. first hand experience never fails.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7440718 - 09/22/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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b0red5tiff said:
jesus christ, just rub the cat's nose into the pile of shit and kick his ass. first hand experience never fails.




actually that doesn't work unless you rub it in while they are shitting otherwise they don't make the connection. My friend has one of those 1000 dollar cats and they paid someone to teach it how to crap in the toilet.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: DeathCompany]
    #7440747 - 09/22/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that depends entirely on how smart the cat is. if it knows what's good for him he'll smarten up real fast.


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7605824 - 11/07/07 07:35 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

lol..
good luck with all of this:tongue2:


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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #7605908 - 11/07/07 08:22 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: my cat keeps shitting on the carpet [Re: YidakiMan]
    #7605981 - 11/07/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I bet the cat is just trying to help you make your jenkem. Don't lie, you're an addict.


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