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whattheheck
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Fasting is great!!
#7414974 - 09/15/07 11:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just thought I'd throw that out.
Of course it's not time for Sunday afternoon nachos yet either, but it's too late tasty/nasty cheese and chips, I'm in the clear
-------------------- A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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AlteredAgain
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try juice fasting sometime, you'll love it.
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PSiFr33k
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i fast about every other day ! not by choice lol , but atleast i take multi vitamins n stuff so i shouldnt have to worry about scurvy !! =P
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whattheheck
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That's the ticket. 
I water fasted for 20 days once, with a little honey and lemon water, and it was intense.
Great times, but intense. I was throwing a baseball 5-10 MPH faster than when I started, and I can get it up there for not being a player.
-------------------- A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Madtowntripper
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Random Quote For Today...
Quote:
He who dines on hope will die fasting. --Benjamin Franklin
-------------------- After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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whattheheck
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Alright bro, you gotta spell that out for me. I get 2 possible meanings, & after going at this work for 7 straight hours I ain't thinking too sharp.
Great day though, and I'll be back in time for most of the Cubs game on ESPN 
Another quote, "Man's health problems have increased at least 3 times since the invention of the skillet".
I've known that one for awhile. When I had the great joy of going to the traveling Franklin exhibit at the Denver Art Museum this past Spring, I was reading in one of his journals where he is speaking on the fact that his huge meat consumption (most likely out of a skillet no doubt) had caused him his gout and so many problems.
Just goes to show no matter what you KNOW, it's what you DO that counts!!
Now WTH does that other quote mean??
Go Cubs!!
-------------------- A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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EraserHed
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Fasting great? I used to have some nightmerish trips when I'd come down from speed and hadn't ate in 5+ days. they say fasting is the purest fry there is, but for me it's just skitzofrenic hell.
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whattheheck
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Re: Fasting is great!! [Re: EraserHed]
#7430779 - 09/20/07 01:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Have you ever done it without speed though???
And fasting IS the purest fry ever. After a while your body "burns the rubbish" and it gets crazy. I never did speed, but it can be crazy. Of course there are also times when everything feels more touch sensitive than good X, or one minute you feel great and then something goes to move out of your system, you get weak, eyes get cloudy and your mind is at perfect rest. You cleanse out whatever it is, and it rarely lasts more than 10 minutes or so, and then you feel even better.
I look younger now than I did 5 years ago. I feel better. My waist is as small as when I graduated, and I feel awesome.
The times when the filth comes out can hurt, but when you consider the fact that the poison that you just lost was in you, and you see/smell it , you KNOW it HAD to be bringing you down...and now it's gone.....
It feels triumphant...
And it makes avoiding Nachos Bel Grande a tad bit easier every time.
Peace.
-------------------- A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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Helixx
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when you guys fast, do you take a week off from work, or what kind of environment do you do it in ?
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donkers5257
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Fasting is alright, but it's a short-term thing. Try a caloric restriction diet, you'll feel phenomenal all day every day. I stopped eating fatty foods and read meat, I take in probably 1400-1600 calories a day, drink plenty of fluids, and all of my stress/depression symptoms have vanished, other health problems are gone, I have more energy, sleep well, and have all-around great mood. Oh yeah, and my lean muscle has toned up and I look scrumptious. Plus there's plent of evidence a CR diet will expand your lifespan significantly. Try it, it's a permanent moderate fast that is great in every way. The concept behind is is that you take in the nutrients you need without all the calories, and your body becomes more efficient and more immune to disease/damage.
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Helixx
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What kind of things do you eat in a caloric restriction diet ? example: today's morning, lunch and dinner meals?
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donkers5257
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Re: Fasting is great!! [Re: Helixx]
#7430937 - 09/20/07 02:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lots of fresh fruits and vegetables. The only downside to a CR diet is that you have to cook for yourself. Kinda hard to keep up if you have a job or committments that keep you away from home all day, but manageable. A lot of CR dieters will tell you "If it comes in a bag or has a label, it's no good" or "If you can't make it in your kitchen from absolute scratch, it's bad for you"... Which I guess I abide by. The good thing about the diet however is that since you eat very low-calorie food, you can (and HAVE to) eat larger portions and more often. I eat about five times a day. Example of today's food:
Breakfast:A fresh sliced mango and a plate of EggBeaters with Irish breakfast tea - under 200 calories
Mango - 100 calories 1 cup of egg replacement product - 90 calories. tea - 5 calories
Lunch: Stir-fry mushrooms (white cap), broccoli, and shirataki noodles, Oolong tea - Under 200 calories
Mushrooms: 40 calories Broccoli: 50 calories Shirataki Noodles: 0 calories* Stir-fry sauce: 50-75 calories tea: 5 calories
Usually I have an afternoon snack of some sort of fresh fruit, but I skipped out today and had a sugar-free rockstar energy drink instead, 0 calories and a buch of energy.
Dinner: Shirataki Spaghetti - Around 300 calories, w/ Egyptian Chamomile Tea
Shirataki Noodles: 0 calories* 1 Cup Marinara sauce: 180 calories Grated Parmesean: 120 calories
After dinner cheating: Pilsner Urquell, 220 calories
Today I went light, and stayed under 1000 calories. The serving sizes are NOT small, I'm talking a FULL plate of food, that fills you up. I'm cutting off the last 5 or so pounds to drop to my old sports weight before I start trying to add more muscle, at which point I'll add in more fish and tofu.
For an average male on CR, 1800 calories is normal. You'll eat a LOT more vegetables than what I had here, and augment with whole grains somewhere. Rather than always worrying about eating too much, you'll really end up trying to get enough nutrients, and have to plan for that. But this should give you an idea of the food types you take in. Trust me, once you leave red meat behind, and cut out all the fatty shit, you never miss it. It smells disgusting to you after you've been off it for a month.
I like the diet, I'm never hungry because I get to eat frequently, I feel better on it, and if every once in a while I'm out with friends and they order something grotesquely unhealthy, I don't sweat it because I eat so well most of the other time. Nor do I hesitate to drink myself silly every now and then.
Other considerations: You'll need to take a multivitamin, and drink a lot of water. It's not cheap to do CR, in this society all the unhealthy food is what's mass-produced so it's inexpensive in comparison. OH! And when you eat, that should be the ONLY thing you're doing. Don't watch TV, don't get on shroomery.org... eating is it's own activity, no matter what diet you're on.
* - shirataki noodles are made from yam flour and the konnyaku plant root, and are gelatinous noodles made of fiber, most varieties will have 0 calories, and are a good source of soluble fiber. You can find them at asian food markets and some healthy/natural food stores (There are also TOFU shirataki noodles, that have like 40 calories and a bit better texture). They come packed in water, only need to be rinsed in the sink, then are ready to put in whatever dish you'remaking. And oh yeah, the're $1.75/bag and are good for 1 year.
I'd also like to note that mushrooms are one of the healthiest foods for you, they are low calorie, are mainly simple carbs and protien and have a lot of vitamins and minerals. I'd like to be able to grow white caps, it gets expensive buying them. Broccoli is just as healthy as well, and should be a staple of any vegetable-oriented diet.
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whattheheck
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Re: Fasting is great!! [Re: Helixx]
#7431539 - 09/20/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do my best to make sure I can rest/sleep when I need to. It's crazy when and where it hits though. I can almost tell when one of those short term doozeys is coming by the fact that I get really energetic. This seems to be supported by the small circle around me who fast, and most of the old authors. Probably the body ramping up TRUE energy to dispose of waste.
Usually though, I feel so crisp and balanced that I get a TON of work done, although I can't push quite as hard (I have a million beliefs on that) and on at least half of the fasts that I've been on over the past few years, worldly, spiritual, relationship, and money issues have a way of just FALLING down.
And before we go and dismiss this idea, although to fast just FOR this reason is seemingly a good way to cut of the blessings but I don't know for sure, we have to remember ALL of the men who have entered into fasting and brought it into their lives and what results they had. All over the world. All races, religions (some none) ages, and so on. I was shocked to find out who believed in this type of living and what they had to say about it. Not to make it sound like it's a conspiracy, but if you read what happened to those who experienced this life, in their own words, you have to start wondering why the overwhelming evidence isn't around. I know it's hard, but there's more. Two final things. I agree with the above poster. The CR diet is where it's at. By growing up broke, I unknowingly had that habit already. I've owned a juicer for 12+ years (I'm 30) and I cannot eat breakfast, but I'm like Garfield without his coffee if I don't get my juice. It even comes on the road with me. My body is used to getting those live, life sustaining, clean you out after a good nights sleep and built up acids going goodbye so I can have a great day nutrients.
And don't fast unless you study it. Not saying anything bad will happen. But we are a poisoned generation with many health concerns, and fasting is not about abuse, it's about the health of our mind/body/Spirit trinity.
Blessings to all.
-------------------- A society whose whole idea is to eliminate suffering and bring it's members the greatest amount of comfort and pleasure is doomed to be destroyed -Thomas Merton
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I've fasted numerous times.... Longest being 11 days of pure water. I used ephedrine to aid with hunger.
I lost about 7 pounds of fat, not water. It's a great cleansing method for your body AND mind. I remember being more aware of my surroundings during the fast.
Since the sense of hunger was shut-down, it made my other senses much stronger.... I had mental clarity after 6 days.
I stopped premature but if I wasent going on vacation I could have went longer...
I honestly believe EVERYONE should fast atleast with a juice fast 3 times a year. The shit americans eat takes us away from how god intended our bodys to function... fasting is pressing the reset button.
-------------------- Your playing small does not serve the world. There is nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people won't feel insecure around you. It is not just in some; it is in everyone. And, as we let our own light shine, we consciously give other people permission to do the same. As we are liberated from our fear, our presence automatically liberates others.
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