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wutang
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agar is impossible to find
#7413986 - 09/15/07 05:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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eugh even at the most hippy farming health store that carries rye, they doesnt even know what agar is and look at you like your insane
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7413992 - 09/15/07 05:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It would be where they have gelatin. Maybe they have it and don't even know. Asian food stores sell it for soups and stuff.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: calicyco]
#7414030 - 09/15/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I gave up looking for agar agar and just ordered some premade medium from mycosupply. I got some shiitake spores forming mycelium on some agar now .. white spores . cool small amounts are available on ebay malt agar is the one you want good luck
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: calicyco]
#7414038 - 09/15/07 05:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414084 - 09/15/07 06:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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A few of our sponsors sell it. It's not that expensive to mail order it, and you get what you want without all the legwork or blank stares from retard grocers who don't even know their own inventory.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Androctonus]
#7414308 - 09/15/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mail order. But I have a hard time believing you can't find it locally. You live in Cali, right? There's agar in Cali.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Dr_T]
#7414451 - 09/15/07 08:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i cant find it
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414503 - 09/15/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AllTech Inc. 4041 N. Fresno St Ste 106 Fresno, Ca 93726 (559) 226-0405
Fresno Scientific Inc. 4535 N Bendel Ave Ste 103 Fresno, CA 93722 (559) 275-1881
If after that you cant find it.. than when i get a couple spare dollars ill just ship ya a couple tablespoons of potato dextrose agar, 1 tablespoon per cup of water. Call both places, ask if they have agar, if they do ask if they sell relatively small amounts to the general public such as half a kilogram.
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Any asian/oriental place has got it.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414585 - 09/15/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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its easy to just go to a lab supply store and get it already mixed with nutrients.. I just drive 7 miles away and get 500 grams of potato dextrose agar for 2 dollars.
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awesome thanks deform
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414773 - 09/15/07 10:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Agar is easy to find if you know where to look. 
First off, check for stores that cater to vegans. Gelatin is made from animals and agar is not. Most vegans will use agar in place of gelatin.
Next, go to the local Chinese market. I have several where I am and every one of them caries agar. It is on the same row as the candy/deserts. They normally have Corn Sugar (Dextrose) and lots of other useful stuff.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414844 - 09/15/07 10:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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or go to yellowpages.com type in "labratory supply" and your zip code..
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414864 - 09/15/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can get .88 oz packets of straight food grade agar.
(for making your own PDA, malt/dextrose agar, etc.)
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I would be careful going to laboratory supply shops. Some areas have a long list of things that they have made illegal. For example, in my area, if your coffee pot looks like this

it is illegal. When you go to a lab supply around here, they require that you let them make a copy of your ID for there records. The state requires that the prove that they have not sold to minors and they they have not sold any of the "restricted" items like my coffee pot.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7414912 - 09/15/07 10:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The supply store i go to is huge and often times the owner isnt there and just his daughter at the front desk is so i usually have to end up nosing through the warehouse cause nothing is organized to find what i want and she usually gives me samples of things to try out. She vaguely knows my name, sure cant pronounce it right.
Thanks for the picture..
vacuum flask with a Buchner funnel, tubing, hand vacuum pump, coffee filter and a rubber stopper with a hole through it.
Im going to go make one now.. my "coffee" is usually pretty thick and it takes for ever to trickle through a filter >_> <_<
how does your coffee turn out with that thing?
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wutang
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why is that thing illegal
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7415962 - 09/16/07 08:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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A microbiologist fellow I was talking too indicated that food grade Agar isn't ideal as its a lot higher in salt content. Any truth to that?
Cul
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Culland]
#7415978 - 09/16/07 09:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wutang,
peterthinks put me on to this method, i plan to try it this week, would probably help you out
http://www.shroomery.org/8514/Agar-substitute
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Culland]
#7416106 - 09/16/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had not heard of the higher salt content being an issue. I checked the package (I have about 5 here) and they list the sodium content at 10mg on a 42g package. At that consentration I know it is not an issue!
It works great, your friend is just a LAB snob. 

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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Cyber]
#7416125 - 09/16/07 10:15 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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interesting thanks for the link anarch
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7416131 - 09/16/07 10:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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np it's been almost impossible for me to find agar too i haven't tried this yet, but only because i've not bought any good jars yet
at both my super bi-lo and local wal-mart, i saw some jars that were wide-mouth but only barely an inch tall they look like perfect agar jars to me, i think they were like 4$ for a six pack of special editon kerrs
i think i'ma pick those up today and possibly brew up a batch tonight
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: anarchOi]
#7421813 - 09/17/07 10:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah asian markets will have it for sure.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: xhooliganx]
#7423486 - 09/18/07 12:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've found agar agar flakes in no less than 4 grocery stores in my town without even going to the asian stores, though I've never found sheets. The little pouches of flakes are more expensive, though. They will be in the asian/ethnic food aisle, near the soy sauces and sea vegetables (assorted pouches of sea weeds). The more natural-food oriented the store, the better.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: TomJoad]
#7423633 - 09/18/07 12:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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theres a hmong store a few miles away perhaps they would have it? i have no idea
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7424470 - 09/18/07 04:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ask for agar-agar, and pronounce it auger-auger if you ask a clerk. RR
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7424486 - 09/18/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now Foods makes an Agar product. Do a search on eBay and Google. I believe I bought 2 pounds of this stuff for $40.00 plus shipping. That was two years ago and I still have a ton left.
Hope that helps.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Wronguy]
#7424493 - 09/18/07 04:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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awesome
oops i call it A-gar, not auger like AU in austin powers
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7424509 - 09/18/07 04:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, and mycelium rhymes with helium. It's hard to learn a hobby without any personal interaction. "Coir" is another funny word. I imagine it sounds like Gwar... but I've never heard anybody say it.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7424512 - 09/18/07 04:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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thanks for the link carl
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7424529 - 09/18/07 04:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Wronguy]
#7424842 - 09/18/07 05:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I call it A-ger too. That seems to be the most common way in the mushroom community. However, the asians pronounce it 'auger-auger', so if asking at an asian food store, that's the way.
Coir is most commonly pronounced as 'core' in the mushroom community, right or wrong. RR
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: RogerRabbit]
#7425001 - 09/18/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Asians have no word that we use in the English language for this. The Merriam-Webster pronunciations is auger-auger. I know quite a few people who call soda "soder", but I'm not about to start that trend. 
Coir is pronounced "Coy-yer".
When in doubt, refer to your dictionary. 
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Wronguy]
#7425013 - 09/18/07 06:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Wronguy said: I know quite a few people who call soda "soder",
I know some folks who call it 'pop'.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Dr_T]
#7425032 - 09/18/07 06:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dr_T said:
Quote:
Wronguy said: I know quite a few people who call soda "soder",
I know some folks who call it 'pop'.
ditto
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Dr_T]
#7425047 - 09/18/07 06:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That is hardly the same thing. We are talking about a mispronunciation, not alternative words. I routinely refer to children as kids, but I'm not trying to tell you that children is pronounced "kids". Let's try and keep the eye on the ball here folks.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Wronguy]
#7425722 - 09/18/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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As long as the agar has the proper gel strength, it will work fine.
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7425966 - 09/18/07 09:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey wronguy, some dude said something about agar slates from a chemistry set.. is that the same type of agar used for cultivation?
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: wutang]
#7426160 - 09/18/07 10:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i believe it is wutang, even tho u not asking me but it'll prolly be alot more expensive if you buy a bunch of chem. sets just for the agar xD
i say AHH-gar and kwar (coir)
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: anarchOi]
#7426373 - 09/18/07 11:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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peace dude
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Re: agar is impossible to find [Re: n2dEePe]
#7426403 - 09/18/07 11:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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idk, but where is AGAR?
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