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What makes pan cyan trips so diff?
    #7413040 - 09/15/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, so it's given that it's much stronger than cubensis. But I've noticed that there is a difference in the high. Why is that? They've both got psilocybin and psiocin


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: coconutjamushies]
    #7413058 - 09/15/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ts like some strains of cubes seem differnt, but its just that every trip i unique and special.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: Legoulash]
    #7413544 - 09/15/07 03:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe different concentrations of baeostycin and nor-baeostycin. I personally think psiloycbin and psilocin produce slightly different effects because the rate at which they are metabolized.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: coconutjamushies]
    #7414104 - 09/15/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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coconutjamushies said:
Ok, so it's given that it's much stronger than cubensis. But I've noticed that there is a difference in the high. Why is that? They've both got psilocybin and psiocin




Pan Cyans also have serotonin in them, could account for the different effect. Also, having the other active compounds delivered in such a concentrated amount without the body having to absorb as much secondary material could account for a different effect.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: SDP]
    #7414865 - 09/15/07 10:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Whenever I trip on them it's so much clearer and the come down is very very smooth.
Cubensis on the other hand is a bit annoying on the comedown, you feel that you're still on it but you just want to sleep it off.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: coconutjamushies]
    #7415032 - 09/15/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

All strains have different ratios of psilocybin to psilocin to baeocystin to norbaeocystin. A ratio produces a certain trip. No two cube strains have the same psychedelic ratios. The same goes for copes.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: Feanor]
    #7415862 - 09/16/07 08:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hmm


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: mushyflushy]
    #7416737 - 09/16/07 02:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've noticed that mushrooms with higher concentration of psilocybin gives a cleaner smoother high. On the other hand, psilocin heavy mushrooms are more on the head.
For example: Texas strain = psilocybin, Cambodian = psilocin, cyanescens = psilocybin


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: coconutjamushies]
    #7417067 - 09/16/07 04:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Pan Cyans actually have more psilocin than psilocybin, hence why they tend to be better fresh as more potency is lost in drying compared to cubes b/c of psilocin's relative instability.

Although psilocybin breaks down to psilocin in the body, I tend to lean towards the notion that ingested psilocin produces a better experience then psilocybin, for some reason. I notice this b/c of the character of fresh cube experiences as apposed to dry, even higher dose dry doesn't compared to some fresh experiences. This may also account for why the Pan Cyans trip is so different, especially if they are consumed fresh with maximum psilocin.


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Re: What makes pan cyan trips so diff? [Re: SDP]
    #7419182 - 09/17/07 09:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I also noticed that cyans have a very smooth comedown and longer duration. What could be the reason for thiss?


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