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Im cookin some shine, need help
#7412929 - 09/15/07 11:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright Im making some moonshine. I got an old recipe from my uncle. 5 pounds sugar, 5 pounds corn meal, 5 gallons of water, 3 tablespoons of bakers yeast.
Alright Ive got that all mixed up and its been fermenting in my closet for 2 days. Im concerned its not working right because it is not forming a "head". Ive read that the bubbles will form a head but mines not. My closet smells like hot beer. For air exchange ive just got 2 plastic bags over the opening and some rubber bands on there real tight. Gas can escape but not much air can get in.
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Re: Im cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7414096 - 09/15/07 06:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ahh, if you got a still just take some store bought liqour and cook it down.
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Re: Im cookin some shine, need help [Re: snoot]
#7414106 - 09/15/07 06:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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is it worth it? what get like some cheap wine or something?
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Re: Im cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7415370 - 09/16/07 03:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i wish I could help, somethings I just can't explain
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Re: Im cookin some shine, need help [Re: Adom]
#7415635 - 09/16/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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im about 85% sure you were soppsed to hold that corn meal at 150 degree's for 1 hour to convert the starches and then filter the cornmeal out.
then take this "juice/mash" and add your sugar and yeast to it after it had cooled.
it sounded like you just mixed it all together, which
1. is going to increase chance of contamination 2. the cornmeal is going to do nothing but "maybe" give nutrients to the yeast.
so bottom line is its very possible that you have a contamination that is inhibiting the yeast....however ive never used cornmeal before so maybe im wrong, i have however brewed beer from scratch and you have to mash the rye berrys/barley (hold at 150 degree's) for one hour.
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Re: Im cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7415638 - 09/16/07 06:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh and since the cornmeal is seemingly doing nothing in their, 5 lbs of suger to 5 gallons of water is going to result in very little sugar for the yeast to eat if im not mistaken.
which could be why its moving at such a slow pace.
also room tempature could be slowing it down as well, however the alcohol that is produce should be of a higher quality as a result.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7415803 - 09/16/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK Damn, good thing corn meal and sugar is cheap. So I need to pasteurize the corn meal first to avoid contams and cook down the starch?
I'm just going to start over, although it does smell like alcohol in there, based on how it bites my nose it has to be 6%+.
Do you have links to good info? Ive been reading around here http://homedistiller.org/
And there is allot of activity in there. Coming from under the corn meal there are allot of gas bubbles. There is a steady flow of some type of stuff flowing towards the top.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7415892 - 09/16/07 08:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i wouldn't throw it away just yet.
you might be ok, like i said ive never made with corn meal before.
just a sec ill find you something
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7415911 - 09/16/07 08:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.gotmead.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=745&Itemid=16
you were right 6%
from your first post i got the impression their was little activity going on. If your getting alot of bubbles most likely you are fine.
however i would add another 5 lbs of sugar, and throw a handful of rasins in their, rasins are nutrients which will make your yeast happy.
lastly, do some searchin on the home distiller site and see if you can find out if you were sopposed to mash that corn meal or not, if by some small chance you were not sopposed to(aka you did right) then you don't need to add the extra sugar.
i suggest getting at least 12% as it will make distilling a little more worthwhile
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7415969 - 09/16/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This method here is what I followed, useing my uncles recipe. It doesnt say anything about cooking the cornmeal first.
Moonshine A "genuine" moonshine recipe, as still being used by Deb Brewer is ... 5 gallon bucket all grain horse feed (we use MannaPro Hi Grain sweet feed) one package of yeast (using bread yeast now--others will increase quality and ferment time) 5 pounds sugar water
Put enough feed to cover bottom of 5 gallon bucket a good 4 inches deep Add 5 pounds of sugar. Fill 1/2 full with warm water--warm enough to melt sugar but not so hot as to kill yeast. Mix until sugar is dissolved. Add yeast and mix some more finish filling with warm water--again not so hot to kill the yeast. Cover with lid--our lid has a little cap that screws on, leave it loose to breathe.
4-5 days later it's ready to run! This is an old-timer recipe and works quite well. Our liquor is always 170-190 proof. You can substitute corn meal for the grain (horse feed) but I don't recommend this for pot stills cuz you can't filter it well enough. The meal will settle and burn in the bottom of your still. The old-fashion way of making corn liquor--with real corn--just is not feasible time wise.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7416112 - 09/16/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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By the looks of that recipe, the corn is worthless. Without mashing along with some 6 row barley, it will never convert. You could buy some amylase enzyme to get it to convert, but you'll still have to mash it regardless. Then you will have to sparge or all that solid corn will be a source of contamination down the road.
Might as well just mix water, sugar, yeast nutrient, oxygen, and distiller's yeast to get your desired result. Bread yeast strains have been cultured to do one thing great, and that's bread. It will ferment alcoholic beverages, but does a poor job doing so.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: daussaulit]
#7416146 - 09/16/07 10:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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why does it need barley malt? Allot of alcohol is made with just corn.
Im not trying to make beer.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7416372 - 09/16/07 11:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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the enzymes from the barley help convert the sugars.
without enzymes the starch will stay starch
but having never used corn meal i have no idea if the starch has already been converted, nor do i know how much sugars are in it before converstion
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7416949 - 09/16/07 03:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said: why does it need barley malt? Allot of alcohol is made with just corn.
Im not trying to make beer.
You're trying to make some shine. You want alcohol, and beer contains alcohol. You can distill any alcoholic beverage. Wine becomes brandy, corn and barley or rye becomes whiskey, beer can become malt whiskey.
This "a lot of alcohol" that's made with corn, are you thinking of biofuels? Well they use enzymes to convert the starch of the corn into sugars for yeast to ferment.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: daussaulit]
#7418308 - 09/16/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the good info you guys. As ghetto and sloppy as I did this I think it made a little alcohol anyways. I'm going to let it "work" for one more day then I'm going to distill some, just for the practice and to see if I can get something out of this. It doesn't seem contaminated, smells like hot beer, looks like a water jug with water and corn meal in it with bubbles coming up out of the corn meal in the bottom.
I could take a pic if anyone wants to see the crap i whipped up.
OK I just went and checked on it again. Its starting to do weird shit. It has separated into 3 layers. The bottom layer is the corn meal (3 inches), then on top of that is a thickish milky substance (1 inch) then the top layer is clearish kinda yellowish milky and its like 15 inches thick. When bubbles from the corn meal layer escape and rise up they go through the milky layer and causes the milky layer to jet up into the clearish yellow layer and it looks like a geyser going off.
If that matters at all.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7418814 - 09/17/07 03:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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got a pix?
and i would let it ferment for at least a week
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7418927 - 09/17/07 06:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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following your link i saw this.
* Acetone 56.5C (134F) * Methanol (wood alcohol) 64C (147F) * Ethyl acetate 77.1C (171F) * Ethanol 78C (172F) * 2-Propanol (rubbing alcohol) 82C (180F) * 1-Propanol 97C (207F) * Water 100C (212F) * Butanol 116C (241F) * Amyl alcohol 137.8C (280F) * Furfural 161C (322F)
so would it be good to cook it at 64 c and 77 c for a while to get teh methanol and acetone completely out?
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7423859 - 09/18/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alright so check me out i am pulling flammable liquid off of this shit. It smells like cheap grape wine with a little appleness in there, not drinkable at all. I did this to find a cheap way to make alcohol for making absinthe but there is no way you can make absinthe from this garbage.
Alright so I pulled off 200ml of alcohol and im keeping that just to burn or something because I guess the first part is what has the methenol. Then I collected another 350ml before the distillate stopped being flammable.
The yeild on this sucks, i would of been better off buying a cheap case of beer and distilling that. Im not going to drink this bull shit but my friend says he will. How safe is this ghetto ass stuff?


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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7424055 - 09/18/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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did you throw away the first bit of stuff that came through? (think its like 10-50-100 ml your sopposed to toss)
also, even thow it didn't burn, the stuff that was coming through still had lots of alcohol in it, which can be saved and "redistilled"
seeing as how that is a "pot still" i would collect all you can before the "temperature change" happens.
then run it all back through it again, and maybe even a 3rd time.
when your done with all this, it should loose alot of the garbage taste.
if you have 5 gallons of 10 percent alcohol, you should have something like 1 liter of 10%
that figuer may be well off as im doing this in my head.
but yah thats why normally you shoot for 20% alcohol in your mash to start with instead of 6%.
so next time you could have 2 liters of 10%
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424062 - 09/18/07 02:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i think i ment 1 liter of 100% but that doesn't sound right either
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424117 - 09/18/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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For some reason the first pot full i distilled worked perfectly, but now my still is pooping out wash instead of distillate. I dont know why its doing this now but the pot is filling with bubbles and its foaming into my copper tube. Ill have to figure this out. I did some reading and i was supposed to cook the corn meal to convert the starch.
If I cook the corn meal that makes it so I dont need barley, right?
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7424284 - 09/18/07 03:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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all yeast needs is sugar and nutrients to make alcohol/vodka.
also are you measuring the tempature during the distilling process? what temp you been keeping it at?
also did you strain out the corn meal and crap that was at the bottom of the carboy? or did you just pour it all into the pot and distill?
did you run water through the still before starting it back up?
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424300 - 09/18/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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p.s. also becareful with that "flame" stove top. If your not cooling it fast enough vapor will come out of your still and blow you up
and as you well know, if you spill any alcohol it will set aflame
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424423 - 09/18/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
makaveli8x8 said: all yeast needs is sugar and nutrients to make alcohol/vodka.
also are you measuring the temperature during the distilling process? what temp you been keeping it at?
also did you strain out the corn meal and crap that was at the bottom of the carboy? or did you just pour it all into the pot and distill?
did you run water through the still before starting it back up?
No Im not measuring the temp. I just keep it on low flame. I will figure out a way to adapt a thermometer on there before next time.
I siphoned the liquid away from the corn meal using a vinyl hose so no the corn meal was not in the still while it was running.
I think the reason the second run caused the still to poop wash was because the white layer was in the second run, I think i should of kept the white layer separate from the wash i wanted to distill.
Anyways I didn't have any high hopes about this because i did almost everything wrong and all that so now I know exactly how to do it right. I at least got 350ml of crap my friend is going to drink. Is it safe to let him drink this? I did what I was supposed to do and i threw out the first 100ml of distillate from 2400ml wash.
Can you tell me what the cheapest and easiest way for me to make flavorless, odorless high proof spirits is?
It doesn't really need to be too easy, I grow mushrooms and make absinthe and stuff so I'm not a complete retard like this thread might portray.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
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easiest way is to get yourself a 5 gallon stainless steel pot or keg and mod it into a reflux still of some kind.
basicly the idea is to cool the liquid at the top of your colum and it trickles back down,then it goes back up with heat, which forces each alcohol out one step at a time.
aka clean alcohol.
for a pot still, if you keep reruning your distilled product you will get cleaner and cleaner alcohol up to a certain point(3-4 runs)
just to be clear in otherwords collect your alcohol, throw out the first 100ml. and collect and collect until you get a spike in your tempature....or taste it until you think your getting mostly water.
then clean your still/empty it. and add what you "distilled"
run this the same way except this time you don't have to throw the first stuff out(however i myself would throw out 5-10 ml just to be extra extra safe)
do this and it should get cleaner
lastly, buy yourself a packet of lalvin champain yeast.
make 5 gallons of water, then in that calculator find out how much sugar you need for 20%.
add "half" of this sugar, add yeast, and a nice handful of raisins, and let ferment for 4-5 days.
then open and put the rest of the sugar in, and let it go until almost all your bubbles stop(2-3 weeks).
THEN, syphon it off and distil this.....BUT collect all the sediment at the bottom and save it in a quart jar or something...or dehydrate it....aka yeast for your next batch and over time they should get smart with your recipe i would imagine.
the best you will get with pot still is 30-50 percent...most likely lower range.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424851 - 09/18/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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oh and having the temp will help you get cleaner stuff, basicly you want to collect everything in the middle.
the first stuff is bad for your health, and the last stuff is nasty tasting if memory serves me right
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7424941 - 09/18/07 06:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Look, the main reason to cut off the "heads and tails" of the wash is a taste issue. The amount of methanol produced through fermentation is minimal and poses no danger, and the amount that you would have to drink would be offset by the ethanol poisoning. The real danger of moonshine was when back in the day people used carbeurators as a still, and back in the they, they ran on leaded fuels.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: daussaulit]
#7425199 - 09/18/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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no actually ive heard it both ways, an honestly why take a chance.
methanol i believe is said to cause blindness. even today they say it right? currect me if im wrong.
their were alot of other things back in the day leading to sickness, but that doesn't mean menthol is harmless
you don't know how much a perticualar yeast is going ot make ontop of it all, one yeast might make a bunch of menthol while another slim to none.
and i believe the higher alcohols althow are extreemly small in the amount produced, are also harmful.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7425358 - 09/18/07 07:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sure, but the treatment for methanol poisoning is ethanol. Methanol poisoning absolutely still happens today from people making cheap hooch. Happens today in Russia and China, because they cut it with denatured alcohol.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7425625 - 09/18/07 08:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wanted to make a reflux still but I'm taking it one step at a time. I started with the wok still, then what I got now, ill graduate to a reflux after I learn how to ferment properly and all that.
I looked at the plans for a reflux still and it looks really complicated to make and for some reason there are no straight forward thorough explanations on how to make a reflux still. The best instructions Ive found on the web are extremely vague.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7425697 - 09/18/07 08:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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check the forums on that distiller website, they have good plans their but i exhausted myself with that site long ago
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7425713 - 09/18/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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pffft thats the same sight i used to get the info on how to ferment corn meal mash.
and that ended me up with 350ml of crap you couldnt pay an alcoholic bum to drink.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: Psychoslut]
#7425764 - 09/18/07 09:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well id have to see how it was worded but,
sometimes they will say, "mash" the cornmeal or w/e and that means to do what i told you earlier. Its mostly a distilling site, not really brewing so much.
over all its a good site, lots of information their, check their forums they have lots of designs in their, one of them thats pretty neat is called the shotgun condenser.
edit: and i thought you said your uncle gave you the recipe
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7426753 - 09/19/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bread yeast I hear populations plumit at 5% causing fermentation to drag out as the yeast evolves into a strain capable of higher alcohol tolerance. Sounds like the pressure is causing mash to go up into your collecting tube, you need a taller pot or smaller mash loads or wider collecting tube. The collector should be spiraled so the steam condenses and increases your yield. Old timers sometimes filtered their moonshine by cutting the ends of an old home baked loaf of bread and straining the alcohol through the bread loaf. That step has been replaced by charcoal filtering. I got a pack of dog water filters that screwed into a 2 liter bottle into an automatic water bowl. I just got the replacement filters and attached them to 2-2liter bottles that drain like an hour glass into each other.
Fig brandy smells like candy from a distance but is undrinkable because the sugar content in the fruit makes the alcohol industrial strength. So too much sugar in the mash is worse than too little IME.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: ralphroks]
#7426779 - 09/19/07 02:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Since we`re on the subject of oldskool moonshine recipes How to make applejack brandy without distilling:
First make some applejack. Mash some apples obtain the juice,add brown sugar sterilize and ferment. Now take your applejack and put it oustide in the winter in a bucket. The water will freeze and the alcohol will be forced out of the ice and remain a liquid. Now remove the ice leaving all the liquids. Keep doing that until no more ice forms and it will be too high of alcohol percentage to drink e.g. pure alcohol.
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: ralphroks]
#7427311 - 09/19/07 09:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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from the "stuck ferments" part of that link you posted.
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You can still distill a wash which hasn't fully fermented out, but be prepared for some fun. It is likely to foam up heaps, and possibly block the column if you don't give it enough headspace, or use the "anti-foaming" silicon emulsions (wash conditioner) available in brewshops. Also, because not all the sugar has fermented, you're likely to get less alcohol out, and you may caramelise a bit of it on the element or the base of the pot (clean it well afterwards).
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Re: I'm cookin some shine, need help [Re: makaveli8x8]
#7430434 - 09/19/07 10:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got the recipe from my uncle but he didnt really go into too much detail on what I was supposed to do with it.
Hopefully next time when i do it right it will taste decent because the way this stuff smelled was bad.
Im going to look into the shotgun condenser.
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