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CaptainLinger
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: Vegan]
#7419276 - 09/17/07 10:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope!
If I grew any psychoactives once, I'm not keen on posting pictures . Anyhow I don't think I made any definitive claim, and some pretty pics of healthy mushrooms wouldn't show that I get very lazy with my watering/humidity control.
And I wouldn't disregard humidity, either. I actually hooked my tubs back up to humidifiers last night after writing that. There's just a lot of focus on getting that last 10% of humidity, and IME it matters very little. I'd be more interested to see what HippieChick, and a few others have to say, if I was you.
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AFOD
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7419510 - 09/17/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used an aquarium air pump with the stones in an bottle with holes in the bottle. Polyfill and water inside as a sole means of FEA and humidity control. I fruited pooh cakes but the RH never dropped below 95 and was usually around 100% I got plenty of pins from the cakes too. It is a cheap and effective means that worked for me. The bottle was glued to the lid next to the floro. with the holes in the top for pouring water in and letting moist air out. I also had holes around the substrate level. I plan on builing a greenhouse using similar fae and humidity augmentations.
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CaptainLinger
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: AFOD]
#7419534 - 09/17/07 12:03 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Stuffing polyfill for no reason in your FAE holes is generally a poor idea. When you're trying to exchange air, why would you block it? Mushrooms do not need to grow in sterile air.
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AFOD
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7419561 - 09/17/07 12:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The polyfil was used to further diffuse the water creating more of a misting effect. I originally had the bubble stones in just water, they did not put off as much humidity. FAE seemed to be adequate as I got pretty good pins from the cakes. Each cake was anout 2 lbs. and each flush yielded about 20-30 pins, total wieght from each cake was about 4 oz. I am sure that I would have done much better casing these, but it was my first grow. So now I know where to go. I am thikning that if more FAE could be added without reducing RH it would be beneficial, though I will be figuring out how to do this without purchasing expensive equipment. I.E. a cpu fan, the ultrasonic vaporizer from a used humidifier and a piece of pvc. Which from what I understand is basically a home made tropic-aire system. Oh well, I have no intention of mass producing them or selling them, just fabricating my own. For the grow that I did the system I used worked pretty well. I have casings almost ready to go now, for which I will use this system again, until I get said other system built and ready. We'll see how it goes
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CaptainLinger
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: AFOD]
#7419564 - 09/17/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, okay. I thought you were trying to filter air...I hadn't thought that polyfill absorbed much water. Might want to try perlite...does the polyfill get nice and soaked, though?
Sounds like you have a good setup. I'm still a little low on both humidity and FAE the way I'm setup, but I maintain noobs should really focus on their sterile technique and get some experience before stressing out over an elaborate FAE/humidity system. See if you enjoy cultivating first, then do it well
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AFOD
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7419603 - 09/17/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm still anoob but I love this hobby. My next project is going to involve several different strains and species and a huge fruiting setup. More like a walk in closet. I'm getting materials gathered as we speak. Hey! I dont mean to hijak, yeah pin those now. I hope I have helped with some ideas for FAE and humidity. In closing I have about 200-300 lbs of hpooh and I have birch trees and alder planks and a saw. Keep growing friend it is fun as hell! and almost everything you need can be built for next to nothing. Best of luck. Let's see them pins in a week or so. I just love porn, especially of the myco genre.
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CaptainLinger
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: AFOD]
#7419611 - 09/17/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Worth noting that I use an ultrasonic humidifier, one of the $5 ones from goodwill, for both humidity, and FAE. I just run hoses directly from the fan. It's not the Vicks style, rather has a *giant* fan that's made to move air once it's humidified. This, duct taped to some hose work, provides proper FAE and humidity, for a total of 10 dollars.
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7421742 - 09/17/07 10:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Cap'n. Having had a rather lackluster first grow I am doing everything I can to get it right this time. I've been reading a ton on this forum. The Tropicaire was left from that last grow (bought a kit) so it was sunk cost already.
Anyways, an update...
Had the Tropicaire on a 4 hr on 2 hr off cycle throughout the day yesterday and today. Humidity seems to be constant at 99%, but then again my hygrometer may simply not go to 100%, haha...
There does not seem to be excessive condensation buildup on the sides and the lid has only fine condensation so nothing is raining down. However, I did just take a peek in just now and there is very, very fine moisture on the mycelium. Only visible if looking really close. I don't think this is bad but I think I'm going to reduce the Tropicaire to a 2 hr on 2 hr off cycle. Is there such thing as too much humidity?
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: AFOD]
#7421792 - 09/17/07 10:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AFOD said: Hey! I dont mean to hijak, yeah pin those now. I hope I have helped with some ideas for FAE and humidity. In closing I have about 200-300 lbs of hpooh and I have birch trees and alder planks and a saw. Keep growing friend it is fun as hell! and almost everything you need can be built for next to nothing. Best of luck. Let's see them pins in a week or so. I just love porn, especially of the myco genre.
Thanks AFOD! No worries, and thanks for your ideas. 
I introduced pinning conditions almost exactly 48 hours ago. Temps tend to get in the lower 80s during the day and drop down to around 70 at night. Not exactly cold shocking, but I imagine Costa Rica has some pretty balmy weather . They're sitting by a window with partially drawn blinds so they're getting plenty of indirect sunlight.
This is definitely a great hobby and I look forward to improving my techniques over time. I'm very anxious to see how this one turns out.
Unfortunately I'll be gone for a week in 2 days, so most likely I won't be able to take pictures of it starting to pin. However, I look forward to snapping a few pictures of a spore-ridden tub full of shrooms when I get back!
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Edited by archivist (09/17/07 10:39 PM)
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Re: Ready for pinning triggers? (pic) [Re: CaptainLinger]
#7426379 - 09/18/07 11:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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co2 constitutes less than 3%, so let's get your misinformation out of the way first, it's .03%.
and here's a video called "Kid's Science Experiment To Show CO2 Is Heavier Than Air"
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