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We are all one, but I hate you.
    #7411899 - 09/15/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

"I am a very spiritually advanced person who believes that we are all one; except for you!"

Does this message make sense to anyone here?


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7412049 - 09/15/07 04:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I've never said I'm advanced and I've never said I hate you.

You do press my buttons and make me angry, but anger ≠ hate...

I do suspect that we are ultimately one consciousness, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't love, fight and get involved in drama.

In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.

...and everyone knows, FUN RULES! :superkitty:


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7412073 - 09/15/07 05:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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:bunny::bunnyhug:
All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs

:bunnyhug: :yinyang2:


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: MushroomTrip]
    #7412158 - 09/15/07 06:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7412163 - 09/15/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.


I've got to say, I disagree. It doesn't make sense that the parameters of our separateness would be such as they are now if the intent behind it, so to speak, was fun. How many people are really having fun, not just sleep-walking through life? How many don't even have the basic means to survive?


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
    #7412193 - 09/15/07 06:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

All of this pain is an illusion, only FUN is real. :rockon:


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7412201 - 09/15/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:grin:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
    #7412215 - 09/15/07 06:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

YAY a friendly sense of HUMOR! :heart:


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7412957 - 09/15/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

but anger ≠ hate...

True, anger = fear.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7412983 - 09/15/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Middleman said:
All of this pain is an illusion, only FUN is real. :rockon:




Please remember this when dealing with me.;)


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Icelander]
    #7413497 - 09/15/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
but anger ≠ hate...

True, anger = fear.




And fear is the antithesis to spirituality and love.


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7413615 - 09/15/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I disagree. Fear is as spiritual as anything else.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
    #7413643 - 09/15/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Point taken.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7421203 - 09/17/07 08:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
We are all one, but I hate you. 




Maybe (I am speculating here) you are confusing "tough love" with hate....?
I have heard that it can be the deepest form of love that one can show another, if not tough....   

:grin:


>^;;^<


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"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423217 - 09/18/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Middleman said:
Well I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I've never said I'm advanced and I've never said I hate you.

You do press my buttons and make me angry, but anger ≠ hate...

I do suspect that we are ultimately one consciousness, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't love, fight and get involved in drama.

In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.

...and everyone knows, FUN RULES! :superkitty:




with that attitude i would offer you a job, if it wernt for revealing myself to a level of criminal liability :p noreally tho, i wish i had more people working for me that could keep a positive perspective. I try to be 100% positive. (at work) I will start shit but its not like i beat women or anything.


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7423226 - 09/18/07 11:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
but anger ≠ hate...

True, anger = fear.




And fear is the antithesis to spirituality and love.




There cannot be hate where there wasnt love first.
When blinded by true anger there is no fear. Use the dark side my son.


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: rodfarva]
    #7423252 - 09/18/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

rodfarva said:

with that attitude i would offer you a job, if it wernt for revealing myself to a level of criminal liability :p noreally tho, i wish i had more people working for me that could keep a positive perspective. I try to be 100% positive. (at work) I will start shit but its not like i beat women or anything.




Hey thanks, I often have people at work ask me "How do you stay so positive?" I say seriously, "Magic.    ...Mushrooms." I'm not scared. They usually just laugh.

I try not to be too enthusiastic though, because the Psyche has a way of balancing itself out. :crankey: :courtjester:  :hulk: :sunny:


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423323 - 09/18/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Well when enthusiasm turns into zealotry you know you have a problem. Whenever I trip I always want to be so effusive about the benefits (even if it's only to console myself because I'm freaked out about the experience), and then later reflection on that effusiveness I start to worry that I'm misleading people because I myself have no idea where I am going with these experiences.

If that makes any sense...


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
    #7423352 - 09/18/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I know what you mean, but after studying A LOT of Crowley, Gurdjieff (especially), Watts, and Campbell,
I feel like I know exactly where I'm going and how to get there. The "Why" is still an awesome mystery...


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423363 - 09/18/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:smile:

I like your sig. a lot.


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
    #7423373 - 09/18/07 11:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks, me too. I'm working on memorizing it, I got it from Mike Tsarion, now he's a ZEALOT. :tongue2: But an interesting one...


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423378 - 09/18/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have started reading Sri Aurobindo. I really need to sit down, and soak up what he says..It is a bit tough.


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Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: shakercee]
    #7423385 - 09/18/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Right on. Dharma, dharma, dharma...


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423390 - 09/18/07 11:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Mike Tsarion, he's got a cool website too..


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: shakercee]
    #7423402 - 09/18/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah his site is beautiful, check out his forums, each forum is one LONG ASS thread. :lol:

Lots of interesting stuff though...


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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
    #7423435 - 09/18/07 12:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, i have registered to his forum, but it didn't hold my interest that much. I prefer big forums in terms of posts and threads, like shroomery. May be i will check later down the line.


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Pray, v.: To ask that the laws of the universe be annulled in behalf of a single petitioner confessedly unworthy - Ambrose Bierce

Medical science has confirmed what the male world has known intuitively for millenia: that scratching your ass is a great aid to complex thinking.

Its God's responsibility to forgive the terrorist organizations such as Jaish, Lashkar etc.
Its our responsibility to arrange the meeting between them and god."
- Indian Armed Forces

"Hey Monkey!! Get Funky" - Tarzan and Jane


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