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OrgoneConclusion
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We are all one, but I hate you.
#7411899 - 09/15/07 02:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"I am a very spiritually advanced person who believes that we are all one; except for you!"
Does this message make sense to anyone here?
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Middleman

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Well I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I've never said I'm advanced and I've never said I hate you.
You do press my buttons and make me angry, but anger ≠ hate...
I do suspect that we are ultimately one consciousness, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't love, fight and get involved in drama.
In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.
...and everyone knows, FUN RULES!
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7412073 - 09/15/07 05:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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   All this time I've loved you And never known your face All this time I've missed you And searched this human race Here is true peace Here my heart knows calm Safe in your soul Bathed in your sighs
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7412158 - 09/15/07 06:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7412163 - 09/15/07 06:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.
I've got to say, I disagree. It doesn't make sense that the parameters of our separateness would be such as they are now if the intent behind it, so to speak, was fun. How many people are really having fun, not just sleep-walking through life? How many don't even have the basic means to survive?
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Middleman

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
#7412193 - 09/15/07 06:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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All of this pain is an illusion, only FUN is real.
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7412201 - 09/15/07 06:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Middleman

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
#7412215 - 09/15/07 06:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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YAY a friendly sense of HUMOR!
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7412957 - 09/15/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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but anger ≠ hate...
True, anger = fear.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7412983 - 09/15/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Middleman said: All of this pain is an illusion, only FUN is real.
Please remember this when dealing with me.;)
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Icelander]
#7413497 - 09/15/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Icelander said: but anger ≠ hate...
True, anger = fear.
And fear is the antithesis to spirituality and love.
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Lion
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I disagree. Fear is as spiritual as anything else.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
#7413643 - 09/15/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Point taken.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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OrgoneConclusion said: We are all one, but I hate you.
Maybe (I am speculating here) you are confusing "tough love" with hate....? I have heard that it can be the deepest form of love that one can show another, if not tough....

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7423217 - 09/18/07 11:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Middleman said: Well I'm not sure if this is directed at me, but I've never said I'm advanced and I've never said I hate you.
You do press my buttons and make me angry, but anger ≠ hate...
I do suspect that we are ultimately one consciousness, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't love, fight and get involved in drama.
In fact I also suspect that's exactly why we're here in the illusion of separateness... for the FUN of it.
...and everyone knows, FUN RULES!
with that attitude i would offer you a job, if it wernt for revealing myself to a level of criminal liability :p noreally tho, i wish i had more people working for me that could keep a positive perspective. I try to be 100% positive. (at work) I will start shit but its not like i beat women or anything.
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Icelander said: but anger ≠ hate...
True, anger = fear.
And fear is the antithesis to spirituality and love.
There cannot be hate where there wasnt love first. When blinded by true anger there is no fear. Use the dark side my son.
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Middleman

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: rodfarva]
#7423252 - 09/18/07 11:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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rodfarva said:
with that attitude i would offer you a job, if it wernt for revealing myself to a level of criminal liability :p noreally tho, i wish i had more people working for me that could keep a positive perspective. I try to be 100% positive. (at work) I will start shit but its not like i beat women or anything.
Hey thanks, I often have people at work ask me "How do you stay so positive?" I say seriously, "Magic. ...Mushrooms." I'm not scared. They usually just laugh.
I try not to be too enthusiastic though, because the Psyche has a way of balancing itself out.
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7423323 - 09/18/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well when enthusiasm turns into zealotry you know you have a problem. Whenever I trip I always want to be so effusive about the benefits (even if it's only to console myself because I'm freaked out about the experience), and then later reflection on that effusiveness I start to worry that I'm misleading people because I myself have no idea where I am going with these experiences.
If that makes any sense...
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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Middleman

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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Lion]
#7423352 - 09/18/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I know what you mean, but after studying A LOT of Crowley, Gurdjieff (especially), Watts, and Campbell, I feel like I know exactly where I'm going and how to get there. The "Why" is still an awesome mystery...
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Re: We are all one, but I hate you. [Re: Middleman]
#7423363 - 09/18/07 11:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like your sig. a lot.
-------------------- “Strengthened by contemplation and study, I will not fear my passions like a coward. My body I will give to pleasures, to diversions that I’ve dreamed of, to the most daring erotic desires, to the lustful impulses of my blood, without any fear at all, for whenever I will— and I will have the will, strengthened as I’ll be with contemplation and study— at the crucial moments I’ll recover my spirit as was before: ascetic.”
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