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Phreakr
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Liquid Cultures Vote.
#7411749 - 09/15/07 01:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey all, So i'm doing a LC of my Brazillians when they fruit (a few weeks yet, fully collonised today) I have been reading about LC's for a while now, and have a vote. Which LC do you think is better? and could you please post why and results. Thanks.
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implee
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7411798 - 09/15/07 01:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The shroomy 1
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7411983 - 09/15/07 03:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I voted for karo...... It gives such a clear solution, which allows you to see everything without wondering "is that sediment or contamination?"
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Optx
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it may be easier to spot contams with karo, but honey is the way to go after your sterile procedures are stronger.
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Optx]
#7412075 - 09/15/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I like dextrose and malt extract.
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Phreakr
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Dr_T]
#7412211 - 09/15/07 06:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for the replies everyone!
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MyPhilosophy
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7412285 - 09/15/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually you shouldn't do a LC with honey or karo aka sugar water as RR puts it. Do a grain LC this rules out contams and a long wait. You will have instant myc. ready to be put into syringes. Research it.
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The shroomy 1 said: I voted for karo...... It gives such a clear solution, which allows you to see everything without wondering "is that sediment or contamination?"
90% of the time you can't see contams anyway. The way to find out whether your LC is contaminated it to use it, I say. Karo is okay but it doesn't give me thick growth. I say honey.
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grapejelly

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If you already do grains, you should do a grain LC like MyPhilosophy said. Otherwise, I chose honey. You don't even need 4%. you can use less and it will grow fine and not be cloudy.
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somebody041
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: grapejelly]
#7413070 - 09/15/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was in the same situation a few weeks ago, and decided in karo. I wish i hadn't. growth isn't anything special like honey or malt/dex
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7413101 - 09/15/07 12:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maple Syrup, 4%-5%. Did nicely, didn't contam, might of been a fluke? Don't know, don't care .
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P.S. The syrup bottle said eggo on it.
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Edited by kingboomer (09/15/07 12:57 PM)
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Optx
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: kingboomer]
#7414144 - 09/15/07 06:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, maple syrup is pretty comparable to honey. and i usually have a better chance of having syrup in the house already - gotta have my pancakes and waffles.
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Optx]
#7414404 - 09/15/07 08:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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was it real maple syrup or the fake kind? I have both, what do you think will be better? to me the real kind taste a lot sweeter. does it matter?
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. *DELETED* [Re: MonChe]
#7414959 - 09/15/07 11:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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LesChanga
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: spock1]
#7415138 - 09/16/07 12:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MDK in syrup...end product is dark, and probably only in my experience has a higher rate of stalling

MDK in honey...end product is clear, mycelium resting in clean water
Edited by LesChanga (09/16/07 12:32 AM)
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7415323 - 09/16/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will put it this way ..I threw away my karo LC when I did a lc(karo) master to lc (honey)..same ml's and the growth was at least triple what karo produced
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Vegan]
#7415389 - 09/16/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Vegan said: I will put it this way ..I threw away my karo LC when I did a lc(karo) master to lc (honey)..same ml's and the growth was at least triple what karo produced
That is a fact
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Blutjager]
#7415972 - 09/16/07 09:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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honey is better
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kingboomer
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: MonChe]
#7422964 - 09/18/07 10:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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MonChe said: was it real maple syrup or the fake kind? I have both, what do you think will be better? to me the real kind taste a lot sweeter. does it matter?
The bottle I used said "eggo" on it .
-Kingboomer
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: kingboomer]
#7422990 - 09/18/07 10:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I vote for Honey when it comes down to it but I've seen better results from Sugar Cane Sugar
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Mankey


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I'm with blutjager. It's honey for the win. Karo never measures up to the awesome power of honey. Anyone who tells you its easier to see contams in karo is full of it. The only way to tell a contaminated lc is to test it out.
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pinkfloydms
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Mankey]
#7423433 - 09/18/07 12:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thats why it's just better to do grain to grain transfers.
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: pinkfloydms]
#7423913 - 09/18/07 02:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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pinkfloydms said: Thats why it's just better to do grain to grain transfers.
Or grain lc and transfer it to real lc solution ,you know its clean and if you don't shake it enough or have it on a stir plate it will get so damn thick that you don't have a hope in the world of getting any of it in a regular syringe
I prefer this (Or even just grain lc alone)to doing grain to grain in a cramped glovebox and have no access to a flowhood at the moment
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Optx
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: MonChe]
#7426361 - 09/18/07 11:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just used the cheap generic brand syrup from my state-wide grocery conglomerate, so either should be fine.
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Optx]
#7426408 - 09/18/07 11:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Easiest LC I ever did was buy a bottle of apple juice. heat up a nail and push it through for a hole shoot it up put a piece of spore tape on it and let it sit for a week you have 16oz of LC!
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: whiterussia]
#7426832 - 09/19/07 02:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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whiterussia said: Easiest LC I ever did was buy a bottle of apple juice. heat up a nail and push it through for a hole shoot it up put a piece of spore tape on it and let it sit for a week you have 16oz of LC!
thats amazing dude any apple juice, what brand did you use?
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i get better results generally (cubes, shiitake, oyster) with a karo base, but i add some 1-0-0 nitrogen based plant food to my mix. if you do it right you'll be tops, but I aint tellin my secret. Just get a PPM Meter if you wanna try.
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Phreakr
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Thanks everyone for your views and opinions, i guess it's Honey as the winner! Different preferences are fine, but i'm glad i found out which people like the most, i'm gona go with that... knock up 3 or 4 LC's at once, and hope for the best!
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Phreakr]
#7426958 - 09/19/07 05:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I always get better growth from a Honey LC than a Karo LC also.
I still prefer using isolates over using LC's though.
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: Roadkill]
#7427420 - 09/19/07 09:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Liquid Cultures Vote. [Re: pinkfloydms]
#7427426 - 09/19/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I used Snapple brand I think as long as it says 100% juice you should be good. Easiest LC Ive ever done.
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