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new world order; reality or a false conspiracy?
    #7410421 - 09/14/07 06:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I've been hearing a lot about this lately...Where the world is slowly moving towards a one-world government. First step is making united states, canada, mexico into one major super power? New currency called amero that will be used throughout united states, canada, and mexico. This currency is actually already being made....they have amero coins made...weird.

Any thoughts or ideas about this? Honestly I wouldn't mind canada, united states, and mexico being combined. Being able to freely travel anywhere you wanted to would feel nice..would feel like more freedom. But if it was a totalitarian government....then I would be against it. Im sorry if someone has already made a thread about this.

So reality or some crazy made up conspiracy?


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: aDoS]
    #7410487 - 09/14/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

false, duh!


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7410498 - 09/14/07 06:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: aDoS]
    #7411371 - 09/14/07 10:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What kind of government do you think would be established out of this merge?

I'll tell you it wouldn't be up to the public.

This is completely unconstitutional but that's never stopped anyone before.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: justAkid]
    #7411512 - 09/14/07 11:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

eh I looked into it more....I'm pretty sure its not real.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: aDoS]
    #7411594 - 09/15/07 12:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Don't worry about it.

The world will run out of energy long before anything like a global government occurs. Central governments are energy-intensive and that is exactly the type of beast headed for extinction and a museum near you rather soon.

Not only will there not be a new world order, your own national government will collapse during your lifetime.



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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: zorbman]
    #7411664 - 09/15/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The NWO plan is real, there's video of Bush Sr. and Jr. both calling for it amongst others. In the extras folder for America: Freedom to Fascism there was a video of Bush Sr. making an explicit calling for a NWO, and that's not the only video out there of him making that call - I know there's at least 2 other moments where he calls for a NWO to commence, a one world government to be ruled by a small group of elites.


The Ameros that have been revealed thus far are mere novelty pieces, however the concept is real enough and has received serious thought.


Here're some clips on it. I've seen Bush Sr. call for a NWO in another clip, which I think was filmed outside of a military base during the gulf war. Bush Jr. has also called for a NWO.




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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: aDoS]
    #7411965 - 09/15/07 03:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> eh I looked into it more....I'm pretty sure its not real.

Yep. Just like most of the conspiracy BS that people push...

> however the concept is real enough and has received serious thought

I don't know what to think. This is one of those conspiracy theories that I keep half an eye on, just in case. For example, when Bush was asked about it, he chuckled and quickly changed the subject rather than simply flat out denying the claims. I doubt that it is anything, but I'm not willing to write it off completely, yet.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: Seuss]
    #7418891 - 09/17/07 05:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

its OBVIOUSLY false. :chuckles to myself:


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: Seuss]
    #7419259 - 09/17/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just look at the American $1 bill... the conspiracy is laid out for you and the plan passes through your hands everyday...


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: chodamunky]
    #7422108 - 09/18/07 12:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ya, that makes sense. Hey, we have the entire world on a and we're going to publish evidence of it ubiquitously.

The founding fathers of america were largely freemasons, explaining the masonic imagery.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: FocusHawaii]
    #7422338 - 09/18/07 03:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It's not the pyramid symbol he's referring to, but the words "Novus Ordo Seclorum," which means "New Order of the Ages" in Latin.


There's really no room for debate on whether a NWO is an ideal certain people are seeking to achieve, as I posted videos of Bush and others explicitly calling for it. The question is: what would be an accurate conceptualization of the NWO that is being sought?

Part of it, seemingly, according to Bush's speech, is that all nations would be ruled by one body of government, which he specifies in the video as the UN.


It could just be a metaphor meant to depict a time when the world is at peace in general, but its repeated usage and the context in which it has been used, as well as who uses it, suggests that a greater theme is being considered each time it is spoken - such as an expected peace in the world, not as a result of people being responsible independents, but as people obediant to and under a powerful world government who'll decide the fate of societies.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: Disco Cat]
    #7422659 - 09/18/07 07:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Conceptually do you think there is anything inherently evil about a Novus Ordo Seclorum, A New World Order?


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7422744 - 09/18/07 08:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes, yes there is something inherently evil about one world government.

now, a new world order is not inherently evil, and in fact the original intent by sir Francis bacon and co. was most likely a much more benevolent vision than what Bush has in store.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: kotik]
    #7422748 - 09/18/07 08:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why is a one world government inherently evil. Isn't that what Jesus proposes in the Millenial reign?

Seems to me i might makes tthings extrememly efficient and convenient.


You wanna know what it is evil?

Computers. They are going to be the tool that enslaves us all. I aint talking bout sitting in front of your computer all day and never going outside kinda shit. I am talking bout real life subjugation by the controllers.

The more I think about it the more I begin to hate computers.

I would gladly give up the shroomery for a world computer free.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7422790 - 09/18/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

no, you just hate what you don't understand :smile:


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7422799 - 09/18/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well, we as humans, ruled by a government, which is "KNOWN" to spread lies...we can not trust our "history". That being said, for all we know the bible was written by our government.

(so theirs no need to quote a bible telling us what is right and wrong when we really don't know who wrote it) <--i think we all deep down know what is wrong and wrong...god gave us that for sure!

A new world order, everyone governed by the same law, is evil and ill tell you why.

If just one person doesn't agree with it...they are being "forced" to live in such a way that is against their "god given right". The right to freedom, has then been taken away.

As bush sr. put it, the nwo is freedom-under rule of law.

meaning you have the freedom to be their bitch!


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: kotik]
    #7422817 - 09/18/07 09:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Oh no, Kotik. I definitely understand the impact computers have on everything. the advent of the computer must exist in the top five most detrimental inventions to mankind.

you wait and see


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7422826 - 09/18/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I can't really understand your post.


I am just wondering why everyone thinks a one world democracy would be evil?


people for the most part believe the Democracy here in America is benevolent. Why wouldn't that hold true on a Global scale?


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7422881 - 09/18/07 09:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

they may believe that.. but democracy is a fancy word for mob rule. What he have in this country is a republic, where even the minority has a say, that is why this country used to be great.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7431599 - 09/20/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

for all we know the bible was written by our government

hehe, there is a reason one of the most popular versions of the bible is called "The King James" version... check this out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version

"The 1611 Bible is known as the King James Version in the United States. In the United Kingdom, it is commonly known as the Authorized Version. Neither name is superior. King James did not literally translate the Bible but it was his authorization that was legally necessary for the Church of England to translate, publish and distribute the Bible in England. King James and the Bishop of London wrote the brief that guided the translation, such as prohibiting the marginal notes found in the Geneva Bible and ensuring the position of the Church of England was recognised on various points. While the new Bible did replace the Bishops' Bible in the Church of England, there is no extant documentation to suggest that it was ever formally 'authorized'. However, from 1662, the Epistle and Gospel texts in the Book of Common Prayer were taken from this Bible; and as such were 'authorized' by Act of Parliament."

hah! your suspision seems to be correct :laugh:


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: chodamunky]
    #7431675 - 09/20/07 10:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

well its about dam time one of my theorys panned out, props to you for doing alittle research instead of just bashing me, and saying the news is always right ect ect.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7431733 - 09/20/07 10:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I can't really understand your post.


I am just wondering why everyone thinks a one world democracy would be evil?


people for the most part believe the Democracy here in America is benevolent. Why wouldn't that hold true on a Global scale?




The answer is simple. The larger a democracy is, the more ineffecient and open to corruption it becomes. Town Hall Meetings with a population of 100 or so people is a great form of democracy. Everyone's vote counts and people become more involved in issues. On the state level, where I think more things should be decided, democracy is less efficient. On the federal level, you begin to see staggering beauracracy and gross mismanagement. I think a global democracy would collapse quickly.


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Re: new world order; reality or a false conspiracy? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7433887 - 09/20/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

good answer , now give me more people! I want more answers.

Why would a democracy on the global, a global democracy be necessarily ?


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