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HappyHardcore
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: calicyco]
#7410951 - 09/14/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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No worries, all you're providing is constructive criticism. I love learning as much as I can about mycology. Those grow attempts took place over a year ago and it's been long since I've cultivated. Just recently I've attained a great grow area free of unwanted people and an incredible new interest in growing has struck me. I've been on the boards for many many hours this past week reading VERY much. The only thing that I haven't come across in the forums is this very issue. But taking your advice into account, I shall perfect my techniques and perfom experiments with shaking the jars and see what new outcome may come of that. All your help is appreciative
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Rastaimposta
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: HappyHardcore]
#7410974 - 09/14/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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HappyHardcore said: Perhaps so. Maybe it was just by 1/1000 chance that when you shake your jars they will die and I happened to get hit with it twice and nothin I can do about it. Whatever it is, that was my experience and you're supposed to learn from your experience, right? It's because we all experience different things differently from one another that we choose to do things differently, therefor you shake your jars every time and now I do not. So, regarding Nickio, it's best in this hobby, like many other things, to make as many mistakes as you can, but to never make the same mistake twice. Go with either you choose and learn from your experience so that you will not make the same mistake twice
I gotta tell you, probably one of the most useful things I read in this forum was that post right there.
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and I'm confused. [Re: Rastaimposta]
#7411021 - 09/14/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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if all your jars contam-ed after being shaken, do you think what may have happened is your jars were already contam-med and shaking them spelled disaster for your already-doomed mycelium? I dunno, that could explain it. technically the advice worked. Too well. Mycelium wasn't the only thing spreading inoculation points. I just don't think shaking would ever cause a contam, because there shouldn't be contams in the first place if you sterilize correctly.
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HappyHardcore
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and I'm confused. [Re: Xeluc]
#7411102 - 09/14/07 09:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It wasn't that the jars contaminated after shaking them, in fact none of them contammed at all, it was that the myc stopped growing timely right after I had shaken them. But I figure it was due to something a little more underlying; something related to the whole procedure that took place from the beginning to when I shook the jars, so it's not say that because I shook the jars, they stopped growing.
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The shroomy 1
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: Nickio]
#7411944 - 09/15/07 03:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I am truly impressed at how much thought and different advice was poured into this thread. I'm thinking by the time you read this, your jar will have recovered and you'll feel silly
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: The shroomy 1]
#7412084 - 09/15/07 05:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow, I missed a good discussion!
I don't shake WBS up before I spawn it, I just crumble it as I go. Roger says you don't want to mix it through the spawn anyway, you want it in layer. Apparently the myc knits back together and colonizes the spawn better if you do it that way. I haven't done side-by-side test, but it sounds reasonable.
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Pledge2Educate
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: Nickio]
#7415077 - 09/16/07 12:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There is definately no mycelium on that, and if there is, your jar isn't colonized.
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: Pledge2Educate]
#7415206 - 09/16/07 01:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Calicyco is right 100%. Your supposed to shake it up before casing. The white does go away then comes back. I have done quite a few WBS jars and they all have done that.
It's normal. Shake it up let it break down put it in your tin or whatever let it colonize again. Then case it. Straw is the best for casing so I have heard. And of all the videos I have seen it looks to be the best.
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Oatman2000
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Re: Is this WBS ready to spawn? pics, and im confused. [Re: calicyco]
#7416068 - 09/16/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Page 49, The Mushroom Cultivator by Paul Stamets:
"2. After choosing the best looking spawn masters, break up the grain in each jar by shaking the jars against a tire or slamming them against the palm of the hand...."
He does warn to let it recover for 12 hours or so, to ensure there is no bacterial contamination, the usual reason for stalled spawn. If you see no white stuff reappear, the jar suffered, but NOT from the shaking.
The TMC is THE "tek" for growing mushrooms, most types of mushrooms. Stamets has fruited more mycelium than anybody on the Shroomery. He "slams" the jars to break them up.
In the section describing rye grain as a spawn medium, on page 43:
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Spawning to COIR
My Chocolate Recipe
WBS QUART SPAWN JAR PREPERATION ----------------------------
4-PO-DMT; 4-phosphoryloxy-N,N-dimethltryptamine
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