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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7410564 - 09/14/07 06:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/7409599/an/0/page/0

you gotta read that one
that shit's gonna kill us all in time. sure it may save millions at the cost of all of humanity


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7410569 - 09/14/07 06:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7410907 - 09/14/07 08:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I thank its only for seed businesses.

The only down side to GM seed.After so many growings is that it will,
revert back to the characteristics of the parents.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: Brainiac]
    #7410917 - 09/14/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

have you heard about the bees all dying all over the place???
  yep gm crops
  once theres no bees to pollinate our crops were fucked :eek:


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7410928 - 09/14/07 08:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh maybe I am worng and it is due to a virus  :confused:
  maybe not...
  http://www.rense.com/general76/gent.htm


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7410943 - 09/14/07 08:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: Brainiac]
    #7411683 - 09/15/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it said opening the envelope. just plant the whole thing without opening it and photograph it. case closed? or mail them to someone outside of country to grow and spread so they are not bound by us law.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7411790 - 09/15/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Then way hasn't it been, killing out the (AHB) killer bees ?




Never any witnesses left.:grin:


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7412004 - 09/15/07 03:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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http://www.ratical.org/co-globalize/MaeWanHo/corporation.pdf



I can tell you about ten things that is wrong with that article.
Was this actually published in a scientific magazine or is this something that's transcribed from a lecture?
I really doubt this was published as it's filled with the researchers own bias and not much fact.
I've read plenty of better and more intelligent papers on the risks of gene modifying. Still I feel confident that we have no reason to worry. For every paper ranting on the horrors and risks of GMOs there are hundreds that show how small the risks are and that show ways to avoid the risks.

I feel that the potential gain from GMOs are huge and the dangers small.
The scientists that argue against GMOs are few and to put it bluntly overly cautious. There are risks but they tend to become inflated. The most important thing: all scientific gainings come with new risks, thats why we need research: to overcome and to minimize these risks.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: Nalim]
    #7412402 - 09/15/07 08:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nalim
you are one smart dude but I still don't trust fucking with mother natures genetics.
maybe if it were indoors in a sealed controlled environment it would be fine but get that shit outside breeding with natural crops and theres bound to be shit we don't want to happen.
I mean sure it would be great if it went as planned but you gotta expect the unexpected.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7414026 - 09/15/07 05:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i agree, fuck em!


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: Locus]
    #7417096 - 09/16/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I have some packs of bhut jolokia if anyone is looking. As for the condition on the pack, I think its more to stop farmers growing them most new plants carry them for the first five or ten years.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: thallus]
    #7418521 - 09/16/07 11:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

watch "The Future of Food"

among other horrors, Montsanto is suing farmers whose crops are accidentally pollinated by proprietary Montsanto crops - AND WINNING. Specific genes can prove the origin; it might as well be a built in bar code. The farmers are then forced to destroy seed stocks that have been cultivating for decades . . . and buy "single season" seeds instead.

They (Montsanto, and others no doubt) are working on crops that will only germinate using a proprietary chemical treatment, and seed stocks that are self sterilizing.

capitalism is without conscience, and unbridled it is leading down some very dark paths.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: thallus]
    #7418614 - 09/17/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Also, GMO`s usually out compete their wild ancestors, when they escape into native populations. Like the extinction of native corn varieties, for Monsantos corn which whoever owns the patent on corn can profit from. When all banana trees, for instance, are eradicated and replaced with a GMO, because GMO`s are genetically same and show no variation, if a disease hit one tree all would fail. Causing the extinction of all known banana.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: ralphroks]
    #7419401 - 09/17/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

my naga jolokia plant is doing quite well so far, and when it start producing peppers id be happy to send people seeds.



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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7419476 - 09/17/07 11:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

how old is that and did you get the seeds from the Chile pepper institute?


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7419495 - 09/17/07 11:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it's about two months old, and looks like it'll be needing a new pot soon.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7419526 - 09/17/07 12:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i was like.. damn big plant small pot, must not have much roots or needs a transplant soon.


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Re: what is this world coming to? [Re: deformedreality]
    #7419660 - 09/17/07 12:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ill probably go get a new pot for it on my next free day. The leaves are big, turgid, and glossy right now, so it seems to be healthy, but a little room to grow is always good. It will be inside in a sunny window for the summer when it starts to get cold, but hopefully it'll give me some peppers still.


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