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mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms?
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oi have read a bit on here and havnt found any info on the subject, do the things mushrooms grow on necceasily get sucked into them..


the reason i ask is beacuse i have some freinds from michigan

they claim they had mushrooms grown on a bed of lsd.

peronslly i woudltn waste lsd in that fashion cept for a reandom experiment.

also is this possible?? will the lsd be the same, and make your thrip that much better... personally i woudlnt eat any shrooms like that b/c who knows how much lsd could have ben sucked in to it... plus doesnt air and oxegyn destroy lsd? sorry this shoudl be in other drugs forum, but my real question i am looking for an aanswer to is the first one


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Edited by goatywoaty (07/12/02 06:31 AM)

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: goatywoaty]
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lsd and shrooms are alike the two trips together would suck. I would try it for the experiances but i bet there bullshiting you. Lsd might even destroy mycelium so who knows.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: MadDhAdDeR420]
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It's bullshit. Urban myth. The only place LSD has ever played in munshrooms is when people lace store bought shrooms with cid. Even then, it's liquid and only dropped on. The only reason to do this is because in many markets, shrooms are cost more on a dose per dose basis and the unscrupulous dealer gets more loot.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: mycofile]
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ive done mush and lsd once, found it a relatively confusing experience, i was just wondering about how it would work, if it did... (mycellium pulling substate additives into fruits)


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: mycofile]
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>Even then, it's liquid and only dropped on.

LSD is a liquid?

I thought it was dissolved in a liquid so it can be more easily dosed...


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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Edited by TripMeister (07/15/02 03:09 AM)

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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Hmm....

According to this site
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_data_sheet.shtml

it?s a "TASTELESS, COLORLESS AND ODORLESS CRYSTALLINE SOLID" with a "MELTING POINT" of "176-185 F (80-85 C)".


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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>Why bother? When it's done, it's done.

For instance to find out how much one actually produced??


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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In a small lab setup the yield varies from batch to batch, so much I can tell.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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ahem..lsd is solid, isn't the true that you need to dehydrate to make it cristalline. it's a compound, just like table salt

and btw...that shit about strycnine is an urban myth

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: CLuB99]
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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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LOL

Well, I only say what I heard....

From
http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/Strychnine_and_LSD.8802.shtml

On the issue of strychnine in LSD:

The following text was written by Alexander T. Shulgin in response to the overwhelming misconception that strychnine is commonly found in street samples of LSD:

"The observation of strychnine as being present in any street drug, as a by-product, or a contaminant, or an impurity has never been documented. It is a natural plant product, as are the ergots which are used in the synthesis of LSD. But they come from totally unrelated plants; there has never been a report of strychnine and an ergot alkaloid co-existing in a single species. So if the two materials are together in a drug sample, it could only be by the hand of man. I have personally looked at a large number of illicit street offerings and have never detected the presence of strychnine. The few times that I have indeed found it present, have been in legal exhibits where it usually occurred in admixture with brucine (also from the plant Strychnos nux-vomica) in criminal cases involving attempted or successful poisoning. The same argument applies to the myth that occasionally surfaces, that strychnine occurs in the white tufts of peyote. This is equally fraudulent -- it has never been reported in that cactus or any other cactus."

Furthermore, it should probably be spelled out that strychnine is not needed to bond LSD to blotter paper, nor is strychnine a breakdown product of LSD. These are probably the two most commonly repeated gross misconceptions. The source of the "strychnine is commonly found in LSD" myth may be somewhat grounded in truth. For example, in LSD: My Problem Child Albert Hoffman cites a case in the late sixties of Strychnine being found in an "LSD" sample that was a white powder. However, what is commonly claimed is that strychnine is found in a significant percentage of LSD, specifically blotter LSD, which is *not* true. Shulgin's note that he has analyzed many samples of LSD and never found strychnine is backed up by published analyses done by PharmChem and the LA County Street Drug Analysis program, which likewise never found any strychnine. This is intuitively backed up by the fact that a 5mm x 5mm "standard" square of blotter LSD only weights about 2mg and if the paper itself was made completely out of pure strychnine it is still on the very low end of Strychnine's threshold of activity. Strychnine is not the cause of tracers, cramps, nausea, or amphetamine-like LSD-effects. Its possible that poorly synthesized LSD might have other ergot derivatives in it, which might contribute to the harsh body load that some get on taking LSD. Also, the very close chemical relatives 1-Methyl-LSD and 1-Acetyl-LSD (which break down into LSD in aqueous solution) might be present in some street samples and might contribute to the harsh body load. (Petter Stafford has claimed in his Psychedelics Encyclopedia that 1-Acetyl-LSD is supposedly "smoother" than d-LSD -- thus "strychnine laced acid" may actually be pure d-LSD, while "pure lsd" may be 1-Acetyl-LSD or some substitute). And the chemicals iso-LSD and lumi-LSD which are breakdown products of LSD might contribute to the body loading on some trips, particularly via a hypothetical synergistic effect. Given this plethora of possible chemicals in street "LSD", its not needed to look to a chemical which has hardly ever been found in analyzed samples to explain variations in the strength and "cleanliness" of street acid. Its also possible that LSD itself simply causes adverse physical effects, particularly muscle cramping, in persons susceptible to it. The reported side effects of LSD (the nausea and apparent CNS stimulant effects) are commonly reported side effects of seritonergic drugs such as fluoxetine (Prozac) and buspirone (Buspar), and also are commonly reported (and typically more severe) with other psychedelics like Mescaline. Or its quite likely that the "strychnine" reactions to LSD are entirely psychosomatic. Both Leary (The Psychedelic Experience) and Lilly (Programming and Metaprogramming, Center of the Cyclone) have each observed this reaction in people who cannot handle the surge of emotion associated with a trip. Further advice would be to avoid methylxanthines (caffiene, theophylline in tea, etc) prior to dosing. Some have noted a possible synergistic effect between them and LSD causing, or contributing, to a harsh body load during a trip. And prior use of dramamine may alleviate the nausea sometimes associated with LSD, and other psychedelic drugs (although it may also effect the quality of the trip -- Shulgin has noted in PIHKAL that he shuns the use of anti-nauseants in order to experience the effects of the psychedelic, both good and bad, with no possible interference). In summary, it can't be said that we know specifically why sometimes acid feels "cleaner" than other times. However, based on the availability of plausible explanations, and the evidence of drug analysis, and general implausiblity of the whole strychnine concept, we can conclude that it isn't due to any concentration of strychnine. Also, while it can't completely be ruled out, the presence of strychnine in LSD is so minimal that the majority of LSD users will never once come across it.

From
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq.shtml#adulterants

"Actually, I think the fact that PharmChem analyzed something on the order of 2,000 LSD samples between 1972 and 1979 and never found one with strychnine in it would be better. I'm going over all their data with a toothpick and I'll get back to you on exactly what I find. It looks like the percent of LSD with strychnine in it is, however, at least under .05%. More a little later."


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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I think to any outside party reading this, it is clear who the "JERK" is, as no one in the thread ever became angry but you. In addition, I would assume that the liquids that the lsd is suspended in when produced have to be filtered away because they aren't anything you would want to ingest. Look at the synth in Thikal and you will find that he produces a solid, not a liquid..

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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>We are 96% water and dehydrated we are powder

Perhaps you are 96% water, but according to various articles in the internet

http://www.google.de/search?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=water+human+percent+body+weight&spell=1

the human body is composed of 60-75%water, dependant on body weight, sex and age.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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>Humans are 80% water on average.

No, 67%.....

Ok, ok, I?ll stop.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? *DELETED* [Re: vodgod]
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"Have some congratulatory drugs." - C. Montgomery Burns

I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

TM™ :cool:

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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In reply to:
Acid is powder and ALWAYS leaves the lab that way.


nobody here stated this...
i said that the pure compound is a crystalline powder, and the dehydratation have nothing to do with a crystalline structure....in fact you can produce sodium chlorate crystals from a saturated solution in water (as lsd, and all the water solubles compounds, if they have a natural crystalline stucture)

In reply to:

I haven't dropped 'cid in over 18 years and never will again


perhaps you should trip again...you're look quite angry man.... , also mushrooms can do a lot for you

In reply to:
And who asked you to chime in with your 2 cents anyway? 41 posts!


man...read the above reply again...

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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it could also be a powder but its turned into powder


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: TM]
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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: goatywoaty]
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A bit off topic here but i was wondering what effect you would have from extracting the Psilosin from a spent cake and njecting it into a new cake? Would it similar to adding other tryptimens sp?

L3D

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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: L3D]
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first of all,
WTF happened here?

second, it would be a waste of time, overall.. just keep what you have from both batches of substrate and forget about extractions.


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Re: mushroom growth- subrtrate additives in mushrooms? [Re: DinoMyc]
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i think this thread can be closed now

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