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azseattle
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My stand on addiction *DELETED*
#7407671 - 09/14/07 04:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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bukkake


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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7407718 - 09/14/07 04:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe being addicted to drugs is an alternative lifestyle, like being gay.
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Knifey Mcstab
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7407773 - 09/14/07 05:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use drugs both to feel good and for a deeper understanding of myself.
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You can try to "stand" on addicttion but it is more like addiction stands on you. I'm a daily pot smoker, ocassional psychedelic, ocassional ritalin, ocassional cocain, ocassional alcohol... the thing is i'm a consumer and this has become a part of my life, yeah, like a lifestyle.
I can asure i'm heavily addicted to pot and the rest of the substances are just for special ocassions... when i like to wear personality disguises... at the end i feel still in control but i know is this feeling the one that could drawn me.
Just don't think you can manage your consumption because addiction is a bitch and it can grab your balls anyday. I think one good advice is not using drugs to overcome life situations but to relax or party after that, one advice that i find hard to follow. Stay away from drugs you don't want in your life, because very deep inside of you, you know you would do it if you had difficulties in life or just want to get wasted one of these days.
May light shine on us users, it's great to play with the mind just handle with care.
peace
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: AngeloWish]
#7408318 - 09/14/07 09:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Legalize them all and let the idiots kill themselves off.
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JunkFood
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7408336 - 09/14/07 09:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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azseattle said: Alcohol's usage to feel good is socially acceptable too. Although, unlike cocaine and other hard drugs, it will not immidiately destroy your life. Furthermore, moderate usage will not cause any damage and as a matter of fact, it can be benificial.
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azseattle said: Furthermore, I do not use drugs that are known and proven to cause damage (cocaine, meth, heroin etc). Cocaine/heroin/meth damage is MUCH MUCH faster than alcohol abuse though.
Cocaine and heroin don't cause any inherent damage.
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azseattle said: Furthermore, each time you use these hard drugs (excluding alcohol) even in moderation, they do some damage to your brain.
You're a victim of drug myths/demonization.
Edited by JunkFood (09/14/07 09:53 AM)
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: JunkFood]
#7409304 - 09/14/07 01:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yah I hate when people try to rationalize their habbits with excuses like "it keeps me in touch with myself" or worse yet "it helps me expand my mind and understand others". I consider that a bit of a self delusion for reasons I don't really have the energy to explain. Just take my word for it.
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azseattle
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Re: My stand on addiction *DELETED* [Re: JunkFood]
#7409339 - 09/14/07 02:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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JunkFood
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7409512 - 09/14/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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azseattle said: The first hour after cocaine use, heart attack risk increases 24 fold.
As for heroin, well, I am not aware of any life threatning consequences from the first time use but consider the fact that the LD50 dosage (lethal dosage), there is no set consensus on it.
That's a far cry from:
azseattle said: Furthermore, I do not use drugs that are known and proven to cause damage (cocaine, meth, heroin etc). Cocaine/heroin/meth damage is MUCH MUCH faster than alcohol abuse though.
azseattle said: Furthermore, each time you use these hard drugs (excluding alcohol) even in moderation, they do some damage to your brain.
All you gave me was a vague statement saying that after the first hour of cocaine use, risk of heart attack increases 24-fold.
And so what if heroin can be ODed on? It's a concentrated substance. The point is that when not overdosed on, it's not damaging.
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7409571 - 09/14/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You should have just made a thread called "How I rationalize my alcohol use".
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: FecalDildo]
#7409692 - 09/14/07 03:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder why cocaine was so addictive for you, my best friends mother was a crackhead and there was about a year long period of time where nearly every weekend I was either smoking crack or dropping rails. I honestly don't think I ever had any withdrawls, or cravings for it... The only thing I noticed is any time I think I'm going to do coke, or see it my, brain gets pretty excited, but other than that I never have the desire for it.
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: Rustifer]
#7409715 - 09/14/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cocaine doesn't even seem to be physically addictive, according to Erowid:
http://erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_basics.shtml
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: JunkFood]
#7409716 - 09/14/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: That's a far cry from:
He's a former drug-using DEA agent.
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: JunkFood]
#7409921 - 09/14/07 04:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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JunkFood said: Cocaine doesn't even seem to be physically addictive, according to Erowid:
http://erowid.org/chemicals/cocaine/cocaine_basics.shtml
I think that's bull, if you hooked a coke addict up to a ekg machine and offered him a line, and compared that to a non-coke addict, the coke addict's brain would have a whole hell of a lot more activity than the square's.
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Re: My stand on addiction *DELETED* [Re: Irdamage]
#7410763 - 09/14/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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FecalDildo
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7410837 - 09/14/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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azseattle said:
Its just that I don't think it is reasonable to see people jumping to conclusions and making judgements without even knowing the facts.
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azseattle said: Cocaine/heroin/meth damage is MUCH MUCH faster than alcohol abuse though.
OK.
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: FecalDildo]
#7410898 - 09/14/07 08:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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the 2 things i've craved the most are nicotine and MDMA. after i roll hard i crave it hard for a couple months. i'm done with it now though. even though i've been smoking cigarettes for a while i don't really crave one until i get home at the end of the day to relax. i only miss pot when i CAN'T have it. haven't had any for a few weeks, and i don't even really miss it.
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Re: My stand on addiction *DELETED* [Re: FecalDildo]
#7410920 - 09/14/07 08:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My stand on addiction *DELETED* [Re: azseattle]
#7411181 - 09/14/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My stand on addiction [Re: azseattle]
#7411261 - 09/14/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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azseattle said: Furthermore, each time you use these hard drugs (excluding alcohol) even in moderation, they do some damage to your brain.
Take a look at what FreeVibe, the anti-drug organization, has to say about how heroin affects your brain 
http://freevibe.com/Drug_Facts/heroin.asp
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