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A few active species from New Zealand! More pics added. 1
#7407420 - 09/14/07 01:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by inski (09/14/11 11:50 PM)
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7407430 - 09/14/07 02:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: sui]
#7407449 - 09/14/07 02:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Haha, my girlfriend won't have it! we can be friends though inski..
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7407596 - 09/14/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dude!! Awesome!
I love these posts from New Zealand, Mexico, around teh world in a week!! super cool.
You have some beautiful specimens there. Looks to me like no 1 and 2 could be the same species, no? What do you think? What are the spore print colors for these guys?
Thanks for sharing Inski.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: gmuralid]
#7407621 - 09/14/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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That second species is very elegant. Thanks for this inski!
Edited by kaal-kopje (09/14/07 03:48 AM)
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: kaal-kopje]
#7407641 - 09/14/07 03:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow, those shroomies are so picturesque, I'm ready to cry. That's it, vacation to NZ is on the plan.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: Pledge2Educate]
#7408036 - 09/14/07 07:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hello inski , your mushrooms have all a characteristic, the gill are discontinues, is something i never see in psilocybe around here. all have a pseudo ring or a small ring , is not a cortina huh,in the first pictures they seem different but share many characteristic, perhaps is the same species or two related , beautifully mushrooms by the way how ´potent are they are all the same potency or lot of differences , you are very lucky i have say that before. when no one find any , you always have your friends ,did you ever see it through a microscope, will be really good , have you success to grow this ones,well when are you gonna send me some?jaja. , i know the night are a bit cold now , i send you a to light your way .
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7408884 - 09/14/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Awesome photos!
Edited by fliped (09/14/07 12:17 PM)
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: cactu]
#7408887 - 09/14/07 12:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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keep em comin inski!!!
always love your exotic finds!!!
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#7408932 - 09/14/07 12:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Beautiful cheilocystidia on that last one.
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Very nice photos. 
Have you had any luck making an ID?
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: haunted]
#7410509 - 09/14/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: Boomers420]
#7418721 - 09/17/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hi everyone, finally some time to answer some of your questions! I don't think the first and second specimens are the same species, as cactu said probably closely related. The spore colour of all the specimens is purplish brown although the second one is almost always sterile and very rarely produces a visible print, I agree kaal-kopje, very elegant:) Hi cactu, the characteristic of the gill attachment, did you mean decurrent? you could possibly call them subdecurrent or sinuate. I find the attachment of the second one quite interesting, note the fluffy white tissue where the attachment is, does anyone have a mycological term for this characteristic? I would say they all exhibit a cortinate partial veil but in the second species it's more prominant! As for potency I can only compare the second species with Psilocybe subaeruginosa, these pointy capped sporeless fruit bodies are very strong, threshold affects from one or two small specimens and the flavour is quite nutty and not unpleasant! attempting to make some micrograph's of the three specimens now. Thanks for the light cactu As for id i'm sure workman will be able to figure out the second one in the near future, the others i'm not sure yet! Thanks everyone for the compliments inski.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7418753 - 09/17/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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amazing as always! I am quite certain there is no term in mycologese for the fluffy tissue where the gills meet the stipe.
3 different active Psilocybe just from NZ.... exciting!!
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7418770 - 09/17/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7418775 - 09/17/07 02:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I will take care to look closely for this feature in Strophariaceae in the future... Can't say I have focused on the area of attachment as closely.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7418786 - 09/17/07 02:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll try to micrograph this tissue, it could be a particular form of cystidia, this has interested me ever since I first discovered this beautiful species, could it just be more noticeable due to the pale pigment and lack of spores? inski.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7418790 - 09/17/07 03:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could be... but i saw the close up shots of the others gills, and i certainly saw none of the white fluffy stuff. It definitely wasn't on the photographed specimens of the other two species, but maybe it was just those ones, and not representative of the species...
I dunno. I'll let you know if i find anything like this in the relative species here.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7418798 - 09/17/07 03:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The images I posted are very good representatives of each species, only the pale sporeless papillate variety exhibits this feature, I have examined many of each species and these three show the characteristics of each very well, it would be very interesting to see if you or anyone else could find this feature elsewhere! inski.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7419113 - 09/17/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hello inski glad you took your time to answer some question you have very interest mushrooms around there, that why i ask so much , here is in the stamets books, the more active species, particularly those high in psilocybin bruise bluish where injured, the gills usually dark browning color with whitish edges, and range from being subdecurrent to acutely ascending in their attachments...........the whitish fringe along the gill edge can be seen clearly on many psilocybe ... this is in a picture when is describing PS weilii in Stamets book, but what you obviously had there is a massive also in an example of narrowing-down technique says : after a close up the gills, we see that there is a fine, whitish band on the gills edges(There is cheilocystidia). because the presence of all the classic features we conclude that the mushrooms belong to the genus, psilocybe. so i guess that is a special feature as you said , all grow in the same habitat, plant pots , of what specie, jaja , have you find then in the wild that will give an answer, also aren´t this related of the ones Workman grow and someone from there send him and post pictures look a lot like it , very pointy caps, well in the pictures of the person, the habitat was in a wood chips bed, , the abundance of cheilocystidia, may be present in that specie also, but this feature you found is common like this in all specimen, do you specimen receive wind of some sort , cause maybe the lack of wind make this to be seem more easy, and in natural habitat more difficult to show this i guess, also noting will be growing now, i mean are not natural conditions for then to grow in the wild, huhn , nice mushrooms, i writhe this mush and boder cause i love to interact and learn , keep up the good work ,
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7427027 - 09/19/07 06:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I vote for the Puriri moth. Beautiful, cheers Inski.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: deadhorse]
#7439246 - 09/22/07 03:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cactu. Don't take offense, but why do you type the way you do?
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: joekenorer]
#7439257 - 09/22/07 03:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
joekenorer said: Cactu. Don't take offense, but why do you type the way you do?
Heh, english is his second language, he is from Mexico.
Though, cactu- correct me if i'm wrong, but- you're also a sort of lazy typer, huh? Seems like i see you misspell words inconsistently, and use grammar and punctuation only when asked...
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7439260 - 09/22/07 03:48 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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My comprehension always seems to gradually dwindle towards the end of his posts, where I can't understand a word of what he's written.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: joekenorer]
#7441320 - 09/22/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I experience the same problem... It leads me to often skip over posts.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7441809 - 09/22/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by inski (09/14/11 11:51 PM)
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7441965 - 09/22/07 09:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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sure do , hey some people speak English and type wort's that me , jaja i learn from cable so you go figure, , the check spelling button . is working for me now what was not before why
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7442100 - 09/22/07 10:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Woooah! 
Look at that gill and partial veil shot!! Nice! Nominated..
I can't believe how well that recovered... the young and mature photos look so different...
I don't think i have ever seen a very blue bruised pin turn into a healthy mature specimen, with a brown, viscid, striate pileus- that's crazy!
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: CureCat]
#7443061 - 09/23/07 06:51 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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weird and very intresinted, super shroom 8)
I WANT THEM IN MY TUMMY
thanks for sharing,
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7444480 - 09/23/07 03:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Very nice. New Zealand seems to be a treasure trove of new species. I just worked up some of zee werps samples which can be viewed here.
Psilocybe subaeruginosa
Psilocybe makarorae
Unknown annulated Psilocybe
Which adds to the previous New Zealand collections:
Unknown annulated Psilocybe: Cleeen collection
Weraroa novaezelandiae
Any microscopy done on your specimens?
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: cactu]
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7447389 - 09/24/07 11:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Those are supposed to be cheliocystidia of the nippled annulated Psilocybe similar to what cleeen and zee werp found? They look nothing like what was sent to me although cleen and zee werps specimens seem to agree with each other.
If you get your microscope going and can get that quality of image of all the features I can cobble together a microscopy composite at the same scale for direct comparisons if you want.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: Workman]
#7450053 - 09/25/07 12:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm, interesting. As soon as I sort it out I'll post the images, what method did you use to rehydrate the material, these were all made from fresh specimens, this could have something to do with the differences although I have looked at your images and they definately look different. How is the cultivation coming along? inski...
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: inski]
#7451346 - 09/25/07 10:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Rehydrated in 2.5% KOH mounting medium. The structures shouldn't be altered by this. It seems unlikely that your nippled specimens would be different from the cleeen and zee werp collections.
Cultivation attempt failed for some reason. But at the same time all of my Liberty cap experiments in the same incubator died as well. So something must have happened like a heat spike or something. I plan to try again. Agar culture looks good but is slow growing. I will be sure to post any successes.
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Re: A few active species from New Zealand! [Re: Workman]
#7454249 - 09/26/07 01:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I agree, could the stage of maturity have an effect on the shape and size of the structures. The images above were made using very mature fruit bodies! I hope you have success with your experiments soon. inski
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