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I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long--
#7406582 - 09/13/07 09:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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---Short Version---- I have made my peace with christianity and understand the harsh lesson mushrooms handed me.
4 months back I posted a thread talking about something bad that happened. I Jumped on a police car in my Underware at the crack of dawn. I got 7 felonies and have been fighting the system ever since, up until this point. I now have 1 felony which is, "Resisting arrest with use of force" And tommarow on the 9/14/07 I will be going to court.
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2007/06/06/news/inland/vista/21_39_166_5_07.txt
On that night I found out the amount of mushrooms i ate was around 4.5 or 5 Grams.I ate them when i was deppressed and had NO trip sitter to watch over me and my girlfriend. I was in a shitty mood and couldnt tell why. I took the mushrooms anyway and was hoping for some spiritual insight. So we smoked a joint (My tolerance was low after not smoking for 3 months) Then we ate the shrooms
To make a long story short I was pretty much in hell once the trip started. I was reviewing my life, and thought I was dead. I was reviewing my girlfriend, my life, my family, anything you could think of. Twords the incident with the police i was standing up screaming. "I LOVE JESUS". "I WANT JESUS!" I couldnt tell why but it was what was going through my head. I simply thought I was in hell because i wasnt following jesus.
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I had a flashback tonight. Ive been deppressed ever since I got out of jail 3 months back and was confused. I wanted to know why. Why would mushrooms give me such a trip. Why would something end so horribly on mushrooms? I WASNT ON PCP!
My deppression took over me on my walk home from work as i was thinking about my court date tommarow and wondering what was going to happen. I started feeling really weird. Like on a LOW dose of mushroom. However the toughts in my head were no longer confusing me. It was all making sense. Thats when it hit me. Why all this happened. Why mushrooms gave me such a horrid trip. Because in reality, the trip was exactly what I wanted inside.
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What im trying to say is that i started using mushrooms and Acid because i didnt want to believe in god. I didnt want to believe in ever lasting hell. I didnt want to believe that if you dont follow jesus, that you are going to hell.
Hell is a real place. But not one of flames, It is a state of mind. It is being Bi-polar, It is Anxiety, It is Deppression, It is whatever you want to call it. Hell happens when we dont follow christ. HOWEVER not a real person as your imagining. Im talking about "CHRIST". Who was he? A good man. A man who came to earth and showed people that their destructive lives are leading them no where, and that they will end up in hell unless they follow him. A man who's only mission in life was to help others, a man who wanted to live "Correctly" and stay away from the destrictive path of life. And to TELL THE TRUTH. NOT TO LIE, Lies cause us to be confused about our reality. We are no longer in touch with our core. The hallucinations get stronger, ect.
Im no longer in fear of going to hell. Because ever since my mushroom trip and since ive gotten out of jail I have now come to realize that I was in hell. I was with a girl who I cared about but did NOT wanna end up living with my entire life. I was caring more about sex then helping my family. I was Playing computer more then time spent helping my little sister grow into a successful person.
Hell is us. So is heaven. Jesus was simply a way to sacre people. Not to follow christianity. But to scare them into following the corrrect path in life. So that we didnt avoid the truths of the world, and didnt keep destroying ourselves, and eachother.
And for all im guessing. The idea of jesus could of been started by a Psychedelic.
(Sorry. Please refrain but flaming, but this all is making sense to me now, Please wish me luck in court.)
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7406656 - 09/13/07 09:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do wish you luck in court my friend,
and I'm glad you had your epiphany.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Seventy]
#7406706 - 09/13/07 10:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, I feel sorry for people that follow christianity just because they don't want to go to hell. I follow it because I believe there are good teachings and proverbs.. I mean there are some good things in that book, but I guess this kind of stuff doesn't cross the minds of people who think it's all about having to believe in it. Not because some fire and brimstone preacher scared the shit out of me one day. I guess I'm kind of agnostic/christian/buddhist lol... Oh well, good luck in court!
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7406750 - 09/13/07 10:21 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wish you luck. I really do.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7406791 - 09/13/07 10:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i'm so glad you were able to figure everything out
good luck in court, my friend

:edit: I remember reading somewhere (from www.deoxy.org I believe) about how the bible could have been a big DMT trip basically.. or at least certain experiences people had at the time. Very interesting.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7406812 - 09/13/07 10:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good luck in court, I think you will be ok. You finally know who you are and what to do, thats all thats important.
Its nice to hear you have found true faith in all of this and a deeper understanding of the universe and your truths.
Glad to hear you feel good about what you know after such an experience, and that you now have the tools in your mind to use your understanding for the betterment of all around.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7406935 - 09/13/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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christians are weird.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: DeathCompany]
#7407263 - 09/14/07 01:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everything you think or understand is created in your mind, you are the creator of all you think. You are God, in your mind, dont believe other's creations, they are fairy tales. Yes, they have alot of wisdom passed on and you can learn from the principles. But the learning, that is your mind learning, you are interpreting and creating the ideas based on light reflecting off print. The reflections are then built in your mind. I am just a bunch of electrons on a computer screen, bouncing off of the back of your eye stimulating cells and neuro-electical impulses. You create the rest. We are all just figures of light playing out in YOUR mind. Jesus, your idea of it, is whatever you created in YOUR mind. You need something
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7407382 - 09/14/07 01:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hes lacking some information, but what hes saying is correct.
Spiritualseeker,
Dont stop and think it will be all downhill from there.. you must rise up more and learn new things about your discovery or you will soon loose your way again.
Christanity is just a story(mostly true im certain), using many metaphors, but if you dont understand the metaphors you won't understand its message.
Goodluck, its all uphill from here.....
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7407389 - 09/14/07 01:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jamesb said: Everything you think or understand is created in your mind, you are the creator of all you think. You are God, in your mind, dont believe other's creations, they are fairy tales. Yes, they have alot of wisdom passed on and you can learn from the principles. But the learning, that is your mind learning, you are interpreting and creating the ideas based on light reflecting off print. The reflections are then built in your mind. I am just a bunch of electrons on a computer screen, bouncing off of the back of your eye stimulating cells and neuro-electical impulses. You create the rest. We are all just figures of light playing out in YOUR mind. Jesus, your idea of it, is whatever you created in YOUR mind. You need something
And your going to need to know how to use all those "eletrons" and what not when you die... and if you don't know how to survive in this life, theres no way you will live to see another. (not talking about reincaration, talking about living in the next realm.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
#7407395 - 09/14/07 01:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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HeiligBoomerz said: Christanity is just a story(mostly true im certain), using many metaphors, but if you dont understand the metaphors you won't understand its message.
If you don't understand the metaphors some dumbass is going to interpret them for you in which case you will blindly follow every word he says along with every other member of your church.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: DeathCompany]
#7407888 - 09/14/07 06:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Good luck!
I think there are basic things you've lernt which everyone should learn. You should be happy you've learnt them early. there are people in there nineties who still dont' understand that hurting others and striving for good and betterment etc. is a basic things you shoudl have figured out very ealry in life.
I woudl never criticise any philosophy which helps people understand these basic morals and all religions have the potential of good and bad just like all humans.
I dont like to go into my religion as its very personal for me. But one thing i believe as part of my religion that I feel is quite important to me is that sinning (doign "wrong") against another human is far worse than sinning against God.
Not goign to church/mosque/synagogue/temple etc. or not living by whatever "code" a religion has, teh dogamtics of religion are secondary to the basic rigths of fellow humans.
Basically i'm sayign doing right by your loved ones and never harming anothers feelings or rights (ewithin reason ofcourse, some people are downright touchy! :P) is far more important than whetehr you do this or dont do that or abstain fron whatever or attend whatever.
Thats a really long post huh?
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7407895 - 09/14/07 06:26 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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although it is somewhat societal and religious conditioning in our christian society, it still makes sense for things that stand for good, and i respect you for turning over to that point and giving yourself to 'good will'.
Its not about the bullshit church christianity, but the positive energy and lessons it is teaching, and the light... but in todays world that is so smothered in ritualistic shit that the real message is almost forgotten.
done well, good luck
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7408259 - 09/14/07 09:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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All religions started out with a good intention, but nowadays they've turned into something even Jesus couldn't have imagined. Over long periods of time, words get taken out of context, meanings change, details are left out, things are exaggerated, things are altered, etc.
Mohammad and Jesus were likely enlightened individuals, and wanted to use their influence to create an Easy-Ready-To-Go package which will the Average Joe reach enlightenment. They realized that you couldn't just give people a roadmap to enlightenment and expect them to follow it. You had to hold their hand throughout the entire trip.
In the 60s we tried to change the world with LSD. Simple concept, get everyone in power/with influence to take the drug and this will be a catalyst at bringing about world peace. In theory, the idea is perfect, but it didn't go too well, and that's certainly with the religions we have today.
Any religion can enlighten you, but how many believers these days are enlightened? Nobody even cares about the religion. They do the rituals and put their bodies in church because they see it as a way to avoid hell, not as a way of personal growth. You said this here:
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Hell is us. So is heaven. Jesus was simply a way to sacre people. Not to follow christianity. But to scare them into following the corrrect path in life. So that we didnt avoid the truths of the world, and didnt keep destroying ourselves, and eachother.
And for all im guessing. The idea of jesus could of been started by a Psychedelic.
You're right. It's irrelevant whether he existed or not. He was a normal human being who became enlightened.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: HeiligBoomerz]
#7408651 - 09/14/07 11:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jamesb said: Everything you think or understand is created in your mind, you are the creator of all you think. You are God, in your mind, dont believe other's creations, they are fairy tales. Yes, they have alot of wisdom passed on and you can learn from the principles. But the learning, that is your mind learning, you are interpreting and creating the ideas based on light reflecting off print. The reflections are then built in your mind. I am just a bunch of electrons on a computer screen, bouncing off of the back of your eye stimulating cells and neuro-electical impulses. You create the rest. We are all just figures of light playing out in YOUR mind. Jesus, your idea of it, is whatever you created in YOUR mind. You need something
And your going to need to know how to use all those "eletrons" and what not when you die... and if you don't know how to survive in this life, theres no way you will live to see another. (not talking about reincaration, talking about living in the next realm.
There's no such thing as death, through the process of Samsarra, the soul lives forever and we are ALL part of Brahman, including Jesus.
The hymns of the Rig Veda are addressed to a huge collection of devas , or gods; however, there are several references to a single god or single principle which is the source or the totality of all other divinities and phenomenon in the universe; this is an early attempt in Hinduism to unify the many into the one. This single, originary divinity is sometimes the combination of all the gods put together, the Vishvadevas, or "Allgods." Sometimes this single divinity or principle is a concrete, active force, such as the World Maker (Vishvakarman: "All-maker"), or it's highly abstract, such as Rita, or cosmic order, an idea similar in some respects (but different in others) to the Chinese concept of the Tao or the Great Ultimate.
Upanishadic literature tended to talk about this unitary or single divinity, power, or principle to the exclusion of all other gods, so that philosophically Indian thought during the Upanishadic period moved towards many of the same conclusions as Parmenides and the Eleatic philosophers did in ancient Greece. This single, unitary divinity had several aspects and names in the Upanishads, two of the most important are Atman, "Universal Spirit," and Brahman. The word "brahman" in Sanskrit originally meant "power" and specifically referred to the power of prayer or sacrifice to bring about material change in the world (hence the word brahmin for priest); so that Brahman seems to refer to the power that brings about and changes the physical universe. In the Upanishads , Brahman is not only the principle and creator of all there is, but is also the sum totality of the universe and its phenomena.
This dual nature of the single divinity or totality of the universe, Brahman and Atman, gets worked out in the following way. Brahman can be located both in the physical, external world and also in the spiritual and inner world where it is present as Atman, "universal spirit." Now every human being has an undying soul (atman) which, because of samsara, lasts through eternity from life to life; this undying atman is a microcosm of Atman, the universal spirit, which is identical to Brahman. By understanding your true Self, by coming to know one's own undying soul, one then arrives at the knowledge of Brahman itself; the key to understanding the nature of the one unitary principle of the universe is to see one's (undying) self as identical with Brahman: "aham asmi Brahman": I am Brahman.
Here's the equation: Brahman=Atman=atman. Brahman is the totality of the universe as it is present outside of you;, Atman is the totality of the universe as it is present within you; Brahman is the totality of the world known objectively, Atman is the totality of the world known subjectively. This equation fundamentally underlies the whole of Krishna's teachings concerning dharma in the Baghavad Gita .
The famous quote of Physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer after successfully completed the first atomic explosion he developed; "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" comes from chapter 11 of the Baghavad Gita:
The Lord said: "Time [death] I am, the destroyer of the worlds, who has come to annihilate everyone. Even without your taking part all those arrayed in the [two] opposing ranks will be slain!"
I am Brahman, he is Brahman, we are all part of Brahman, known as Atman and atman. Also, fruitflies= God's cameramen. BELIEVE!
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7408686 - 09/14/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey man your story makes total sence to me. learn and grow from this maybe you had too much too fast
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: notapillow]
#7408751 - 09/14/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Besides all the metaphysical crap in this thread.
I hope this cat turns out ok and doesnt face the screws. The system loves to make examples out of people who are or were facing ontological issues. I had a friend years ago, when we were underage, shoplift something and this woman tried to grab him as he was running out. He ran through her arms and he got charged with assault on her. She, of course, milked it, went to the emergency room complaining of neck, back and arm pain. By a mere glance of her reaching out to grab him. They charged him with a felony. Police are the same way, they will blow it totally out of proportion to screw people. I was in the pokey for a minor traffic offense and this guy was supposed to be released but they fugged up his paperwork. He was pissed, yelled and threw a paperplate from lunch in the air. They charged him with assault b/c the paper plate came near a female officer.
Is it no wonder, that is is an "US" versus "Them" mentality. These evil people do not tell the truth, they lie, they know things will be pleabargained unless they exaggerate. They themselves are scumbags. That's why I avoid most of the average inbred cop and the churchers who will lie at the drop of a hat to destroy someone else's life. Very christian of them.
Now this dude, although being a total dipshit in his underwear, faces jailtime, in the old days. They'd just kick his ass and send him home. Now they have to rack up charges that will follow the man for life. All b/c of mushrooms and a psychotic break. Crazy and unfair.
While drunks can run into people all day long
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7409130 - 09/14/07 01:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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There's no such thing as death, through the process of Samsarra, the soul lives forever and we are ALL part of Brahman, including Jesus.
The hymns of the Rig Veda are addressed to a huge collection of devas , or gods; however, there are several references to a single god or single principle which is the source or the totality of all other divinities and phenomenon in the universe; this is an early attempt in Hinduism to unify the many into the one. This single, originary divinity is sometimes the combination of all the gods put together, the Vishvadevas, or "Allgods." Sometimes this single divinity or principle is a concrete, active force, such as the World Maker (Vishvakarman: "All-maker"), or it's highly abstract, such as Rita, or cosmic order, an idea similar in some respects (but different in others) to the Chinese concept of the Tao or the Great Ultimate.
Upanishadic literature tended to talk about this unitary or single divinity, power, or principle to the exclusion of all other gods, so that philosophically Indian thought during the Upanishadic period moved towards many of the same conclusions as Parmenides and the Eleatic philosophers did in ancient Greece. This single, unitary divinity had several aspects and names in the Upanishads, two of the most important are Atman, "Universal Spirit," and Brahman. The word "brahman" in Sanskrit originally meant "power" and specifically referred to the power of prayer or sacrifice to bring about material change in the world (hence the word brahmin for priest); so that Brahman seems to refer to the power that brings about and changes the physical universe. In the Upanishads , Brahman is not only the principle and creator of all there is, but is also the sum totality of the universe and its phenomena.
This dual nature of the single divinity or totality of the universe, Brahman and Atman, gets worked out in the following way. Brahman can be located both in the physical, external world and also in the spiritual and inner world where it is present as Atman, "universal spirit." Now every human being has an undying soul (atman) which, because of samsara, lasts through eternity from life to life; this undying atman is a microcosm of Atman, the universal spirit, which is identical to Brahman. By understanding your true Self, by coming to know one's own undying soul, one then arrives at the knowledge of Brahman itself; the key to understanding the nature of the one unitary principle of the universe is to see one's (undying) self as identical with Brahman: "aham asmi Brahman": I am Brahman.
Here's the equation: Brahman=Atman=atman. Brahman is the totality of the universe as it is present outside of you;, Atman is the totality of the universe as it is present within you; Brahman is the totality of the world known objectively, Atman is the totality of the world known subjectively. This equation fundamentally underlies the whole of Krishna's teachings concerning dharma in the Baghavad Gita .
The famous quote of Physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer after successfully completed the first atomic explosion he developed; "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" comes from chapter 11 of the Baghavad Gita:
The Lord said: "Time [death] I am, the destroyer of the worlds, who has come to annihilate everyone. Even without your taking part all those arrayed in the [two] opposing ranks will be slain!"
I am Brahman, he is Brahman, we are all part of Brahman, known as Atman and atman. Also, fruitflies= God's cameramen. BELIEVE!
Wow! You are seriously into Hinduism. Thats great. Not to rain on your parade, but Im from India, still live here, and am Hindu (not that I know EVERYTHING). This is all fine and good, but you telling people their faith isnt completely right, isnt right either I think. The reason Hinduism has survived and thrived and India is what it is, is because of the flexibility of faith afforded in the practice of the faith.
This sort of draws away from Spiritual Seekers first point, but just thought I would kinda point this out. With all due respect, sounds like a load of bull when you say your opinion is fact, whether it is for you is all that matters.
As for him, I see he has his own faith, and has found all the good things that the Upanishads and Vedas teach, in his own faith and in his own way. Good for him, and good for you to know yours, but also its important to know the place and time for placing ones views as THE universal truth. 
Again, Jamesb, not a flame, just my opinion.
Seeker, again, good luck, hope your doing well, just chill and all will be good. Were here for you man!
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: gmuralid]
#7409331 - 09/14/07 02:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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gmuralid said:Wow! You are seriously into Hinduism. Thats great. Not to rain on your parade, but Im from India, still live here, and am Hindu (not that I know EVERYTHING). This is all fine and good, but you telling people their faith isnt completely right, isnt right either I think. The reason Hinduism has survived and thrived and India is what it is, is because of the flexibility of faith afforded in the practice of the faith.
This sort of draws away from Spiritual Seekers first point, but just thought I would kinda point this out. With all due respect, sounds like a load of bull when you say your opinion is fact, whether it is for you is all that matters.
As for him, I see he has his own faith, and has found all the good things that the Upanishads and Vedas teach, in his own faith and in his own way. Good for him, and good for you to know yours, but also its important to know the place and time for placing ones views as THE universal truth. 
Again, Jamesb, not a flame, just my opinion.
Seeker, again, good luck, hope your doing well, just chill and all will be good. Were here for you man!
Yessssssss.. thank you!
I find it annoying when anybody speaks as if their religion is the ultimate truth for all of us. It's so simple minded.. there are other serious religions that people place just as much faith in as jamesb does his. This guy makes a thread about how he found Jesus. and then jamesb goes prophet on us 
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Jamesb: Jesus, your idea of it, is whatever you created in YOUR mind. You need something
HEY! Guess what! It goes both ways man. You need something too, evidently, wow what a concept huh? 
Lots of people look at their religion as if it is the absolute truth. Then they forget that their decision to even begin to believe in that religion had influences. Say it's the religion your family has practiced for centuries, say it's what the majority of your society practices and expects, say its all you've ever known.. I mean the list can go on and on.
And then thats where they lose the respect for other religions, thinking that theirs is whats right, because it's all they have learned and placed their belief system in, forgetting that people have begun practicing their religions in the exact same manner that you began yours.
If you respect your religion then respect others, because the core IDEA of how it came about and how it comes about is the same. If you want people to have respect for your God, your Jesus, whatever the hell you have, then have that respect you expect for them. If you don't follow a religion, then respect religion as you would want others to respect your DECISION. People make their own choices, and thats exactly what they are.. choices.
It comes down to us choosing a guideline to live by when people choose a religion. Christians will live by the bible etc... Atheists may think they are more free because they don't have guidelines just laid out in front of them, but the guidelines are then created from their own morals and knowledge. So in essence they are still following a religion, it's just their own. Everyone has a religion, even the "atheists" 
Once you understand where the major religions of the world today originated, and how they formed, you gain a greater understanding of your own religion and the psychology behind every religion.
Somewhere along the line people started to forget it was all about the stars.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
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This sort of draws away from Spiritual Seekers first point, but just thought I would kinda point this out. With all due respect, sounds like a load of bull when you say your opinion is fact, whether it is for you is all that matters.
As for him, I see he has his own faith, and has found all the good things that the Upanishads and Vedas teach, in his own faith and in his own way. Good for him, and good for you to know yours, but also its important to know the place and time for placing ones views as THE universal truth. 
Again, Jamesb, not a flame, just my opinion.
Seeker, again, good luck, hope your doing well, just chill and all will be good. Were here for you man!
Yessssssss.. thank you!
I find it annoying when anybody speaks as if their religion is the ultimate truth for all of us. It's so simple minded.. there are other serious religions that people place just as much faith in as jamesb does his. This guy makes a thread about how he found Jesus. and then jamesb goes prophet on us 
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Jamesb: Jesus, your idea of it, is whatever you created in YOUR mind. You need something
HEY! Guess what! It goes both ways man. You need something too, evidently, wow what a concept huh? 
Lots of people look at their religion as if it is the absolute truth. Then they forget that their decision to even begin to believe in that religion had influences. Say it's the religion your family has practiced for centuries, say it's what the majority of your society practices and expects, say its all you've ever known.. I mean the list can go on and on.
And then thats where they lose the respect for other religions, thinking that theirs is whats right, because it's all they have learned and placed their belief system in, forgetting that people have begun practicing their religions in the exact same manner that you began yours.
If you respect your religion then respect others, because the core IDEA of how it came about and how it comes about is the same. If you want people to have respect for your God, your Jesus, whatever the hell you have, then have that respect you expect for them. If you don't follow a religion, then respect religion as you would want others to respect your DECISION. People make their own choices, and thats exactly what they are.. choices.
It comes down to us choosing a guideline to live by when people choose a religion. Christians will live by the bible etc... Atheists may think they are more free because they don't have guidelines just laid out in front of them, but the guidelines are then created from their own morals and knowledge. So in essence they are still following a religion, it's just their own. Everyone has a religion, even the "atheists" 
Once you understand where the major religions of the world today originated, and how they formed, you gain a greater understanding of your own religion and the psychology behind every religion.
Somewhere along the line people started to forget it was all about the stars.
do you feel better now?
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7410467 - 09/14/07 06:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What would Marx say here? Oh, forget about him.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: gmuralid]
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There's no such thing as death, through the process of Samsarra, the soul lives forever and we are ALL part of Brahman, including Jesus.
The hymns of the Rig Veda are addressed to a huge collection of devas , or gods; however, there are several references to a single god or single principle which is the source or the totality of all other divinities and phenomenon in the universe; this is an early attempt in Hinduism to unify the many into the one. This single, originary divinity is sometimes the combination of all the gods put together, the Vishvadevas, or "Allgods." Sometimes this single divinity or principle is a concrete, active force, such as the World Maker (Vishvakarman: "All-maker"), or it's highly abstract, such as Rita, or cosmic order, an idea similar in some respects (but different in others) to the Chinese concept of the Tao or the Great Ultimate.
Upanishadic literature tended to talk about this unitary or single divinity, power, or principle to the exclusion of all other gods, so that philosophically Indian thought during the Upanishadic period moved towards many of the same conclusions as Parmenides and the Eleatic philosophers did in ancient Greece. This single, unitary divinity had several aspects and names in the Upanishads, two of the most important are Atman, "Universal Spirit," and Brahman. The word "brahman" in Sanskrit originally meant "power" and specifically referred to the power of prayer or sacrifice to bring about material change in the world (hence the word brahmin for priest); so that Brahman seems to refer to the power that brings about and changes the physical universe. In the Upanishads , Brahman is not only the principle and creator of all there is, but is also the sum totality of the universe and its phenomena.
This dual nature of the single divinity or totality of the universe, Brahman and Atman, gets worked out in the following way. Brahman can be located both in the physical, external world and also in the spiritual and inner world where it is present as Atman, "universal spirit." Now every human being has an undying soul (atman) which, because of samsara, lasts through eternity from life to life; this undying atman is a microcosm of Atman, the universal spirit, which is identical to Brahman. By understanding your true Self, by coming to know one's own undying soul, one then arrives at the knowledge of Brahman itself; the key to understanding the nature of the one unitary principle of the universe is to see one's (undying) self as identical with Brahman: "aham asmi Brahman": I am Brahman.
Here's the equation: Brahman=Atman=atman. Brahman is the totality of the universe as it is present outside of you;, Atman is the totality of the universe as it is present within you; Brahman is the totality of the world known objectively, Atman is the totality of the world known subjectively. This equation fundamentally underlies the whole of Krishna's teachings concerning dharma in the Baghavad Gita .
The famous quote of Physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer after successfully completed the first atomic explosion he developed; "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds" comes from chapter 11 of the Baghavad Gita:
The Lord said: "Time [death] I am, the destroyer of the worlds, who has come to annihilate everyone. Even without your taking part all those arrayed in the [two] opposing ranks will be slain!"
I am Brahman, he is Brahman, we are all part of Brahman, known as Atman and atman. Also, fruitflies= God's cameramen. BELIEVE!
Wow! You are seriously into Hinduism. Thats great. Not to rain on your parade, but Im from India, still live here, and am Hindu (not that I know EVERYTHING). This is all fine and good, but you telling people their faith isnt completely right, isnt right either I think. The reason Hinduism has survived and thrived and India is what it is, is because of the flexibility of faith afforded in the practice of the faith.
This sort of draws away from Spiritual Seekers first point, but just thought I would kinda point this out. With all due respect, sounds like a load of bull when you say your opinion is fact, whether it is for you is all that matters.
As for him, I see he has his own faith, and has found all the good things that the Upanishads and Vedas teach, in his own faith and in his own way. Good for him, and good for you to know yours, but also its important to know the place and time for placing ones views as THE universal truth. 
Again, Jamesb, not a flame, just my opinion.
Seeker, again, good luck, hope your doing well, just chill and all will be good. Were here for you man!
I am not Hindu, Hindus are dirty people who cant afford toilet paper in India and wipe their ass with their left hand. Never let an Indian fill your slurpee cup if they touch it with their left hand.
I believe in everything as an empirical scientist. It is just an illustration of crazy. You did not comment on my assessment that Fruitflies are God's cameramen. The obvious punchline to the Hindu joke. You morons take yourselves way too seriously, well, you state you are from India. I wouldnt brag about that as if that somehow wins a debate. I am from where a billion people drink urine to meditate.
If you had any education, you'd realize that this just little more than an interpretation of Descarte's work on the The First Meditation. The Solipsistic prelude I gave is equally recognizable to those who put down their bong long enough to read a book.
Sorry to get all your panties in a bunch by retendering basic Philosophy 101 concepts to bunch of mushheads. The concepts are well discussed and well researched with a plethora of discussion. Simple Gedankenexperimental thought was was I proffered. In return, I get the place where you were born. Great, hope their are libraries there, you need them. Go read and learn and come back in a lifetime to show me what you have learned
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7410734 - 09/14/07 07:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yer an idiot.
You are the trite "moron".
Sorry, you didnt get my panties in a bunch and I hope I dont hurt your feelings by saying this.
You are an enthnocentric moron, and asshole. Texthole. Not nice. Pointless asshole.
And you can point that finger up your ass.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
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There is some truth to what you said, but you fight dirty, and have no reason too.
That was a very dirty post.
Bad fuckin mannors. So I treated you accordingly. You are the last dipshit I would ever ask for spiritual advise.
SERRY
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
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yageman said: Yer an idiot.
You are the trite "moron".
Sorry, you didnt get my panties in a bunch and I hope I dont hurt your feelings by saying this.
You are an enthnocentric moron, and asshole. Texthole. Not nice. Pointless asshole.
And you can point that finger up your ass.
You just proved what I thought, you are an uneducated loser. Hurling banile insults as if you were still in highschool. Woohooo, like I've never read your line of insulting on a chatboard. Congrats, you are just a simple pattern played out thousands of times on the internet everyday. I give you stimulus A, you give ponderous insults to make yourself feel better, result B. Go grow a braincell or two, then get back with me.
I'd say you have the intellect of what, a 17 year old lol?? Talk to me after you get a graduate degree. You are far from a reasoned man and you juvenile insults, crack me up. Think of something better. Break out of the mold
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
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yageman said: There is some truth to what you said, but you fight dirty, and for no reason too.
That was a very dirty post.
Bad fuckin mannors. So I treated you accordingly. You are the last dipshit I would ever ask for spiritual advise.
SERRY
I am the king of mean, I kind be spiritual and talk philosophy one minute and respond in kind when attacked. I am brutal and harsh after being a moderator on a board of over 100,000 people. IF someone critiques my posts with a lack of substance. I will call them on it using similar reasoning tactics. It's not fighting dirty. It's showing flaws in their attack. I am just a mirror for what people say to me. They dont like it, then shut the fuck up and dont comment to me on my posts. Maybe one person out there got some enlightenment from my statements. That is all I am concerned about.
I give exactly two shits about those who want to shout me down and tell their idea of living and posting. How many shits? Two Get it now? Dont be sorry, just wash the sand out of your vagina and leave my fucking posts alone
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7410865 - 09/14/07 08:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, thats just shorthand. Was that not obvious my educated friend? You are very smart if you have indeed read posts made by me. Thats sarcasm...........
I dont even use drugs anymore. I also dont waist my time with people like you. Especially when on the internet.
I tried to make it simple so that you dont have to lie to yourself any everone else about the fact that you dont think you were out of line(an asshole).
Dont assume my age either. I thought treating you like an idiot was appropriate. I was not going to treat you like a smart person with good writing skills, and thats because you are just a pretentious asshole with good writing skills. It would be best if you just left me alone. You already look like an idiot.
You are unclean.
Im sure I take a whole different approach to spirituality than you do. I dont want to talk to a person like you about spirituality. I want to talk to you about how dirty you are. I want to talk to you about symantics, and as far as your thoughts go, they are very broken. Thats what makes them dirty. You cant seperate your childish emotions from all that fucking text you have read, and all the divine logic that im sure you are capable of.
Why am I being so acidic? Its because I treat people how they should be treated, and you dont deserve an explanation from me. You fool. What I should have done is not waist my time just be silent. I chose entertainment instead.
I dont flame people, unless they deserve a reality check.
You must be 17 <------------------that was really creative. Read books and stop being such morons<----- also very creative Calling everyone just simple mushroomheads<----classic Philosophy 101 doesnt mix with "mushheads"<--- you moron
I could go on and on. Why are you hanging around a bunch of inferior mushheads you dipshit. Oh wait, I dont care........
Stop with the discussion. You really are not fit at this time. I dont think anyways.
Point the finger..........up ye ass. Get it?
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7410921 - 09/14/07 08:52 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yageman said: No, thats just shorthand. Was that not obvious my educated friend? You are very smart if you have indeed read posts made by me. Thats sarcasm...........
I dont even use drugs anymore. I also dont waist my time with people like you. Especially when on the internet.
I tried to make it simple so that you dont have to lie to yourself any everone else about the fact that you dont think you were out of line(an asshole).
Dont assume my age either. I thought treating you like an idiot was appropriate. I was not going to treat you like a smart person with good writing skills, and thats because you are just a pretentious asshole with good writing skills. It would be best if you just left me alone. You already look like an idiot.
You are unclean.
Im sure I take a whole different approach to spirituality than you do. I dont want to talk to a person like you about spirituality. I want to talk to you about how dirty you are. I want to talk to you about symantics, and as far as your thoughts go, they are very broken. Thats what makes them dirty. You cant seperate your childish emotions from all that fucking text you have read, and all the divine logic that im sure you are capable of.
Why am I being so acidic? Its because I treat people how they should be treated, and you dont deserve an explanation from me. You fool. What I should have done is not waist my time just be silent. I chose entertainment instead.
I dont flame people, unless they deserve a reality check.
You must be 17 <------------------that was really creative. Read books and stop being such morons<----- also very creative Calling everyone just simple mushroomheads<----classic Philosophy 101 doesnt mix with "mushheads"<--- you moron
I could go on and on. Why are you hanging around a bunch of inferior mushheads you dipshit. Oh wait, I dont care........
Stop with the discussion. You really are not fit at this time. I dont think anyways.
Point the finger..........up ye ass. Get it?
Look, I am not your therapist, so take your issues elsewhere. If I want to talk about philosophical concepts, I am going to. If you dont like it. Go talk to your therapist, beat your wife or kids or dog. I simply do not give a shit about you. Get it now?
Your continued responses mean that you are trying to e-grow your e-penis. Ive seen it a hundred times before. Why not just unplug the little cable to the wall that provides you the internet stimulus and not get upset. I bet your blood pressure is raised. Your mind a tilt.
You just had to teach a lesson you say. What is wrong with you, you have to treat someone some way. cool, the internet equivalent to roadrage> I'll show that guy or girl a thing or two.
Which brings me back to, how many shit I give about you? Two, exactly two. Now seriously, the man hiding behind the name Yageman, my name is James, I think you should just go wash the sand out of your vagina. RIGHT NOW!
Then
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7410994 - 09/14/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are pathetic.
My e-penis? No, im having fun fucking with one of the worse flammers ever. You are not even funny. I guess im the only one having fun here.
Good god man, go read a book.......lol.
I do have only two reasons to pick on you. 1. my own entertainment 2. you really are a dumbass fancypants ninny.
My blood pressure.......lol
Get a degree smartypants. My degree is longer than yours.
Fucknard.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7410998 - 09/14/07 09:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ummmmmm, me and yageman have had our quarrels in the past, but yeah you're an asshole MR. JAMES.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411026 - 09/14/07 09:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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What about the grouphug guys?
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
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I don't know.. maybe when you're a moderator on a forum of a whopping 100k people the asshole persona slides right on through. Not here though bro, we don't give a fuck what forum you probably ran like an asshole. You're no moderator here, and you won't EVER be from the way you are presenting yourself. There's this thing called a clue, go get one. People on this board like respect.. this is a more real forum than most, and I see that you are not real. You think you are, but you're just an asshole.
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StreetFreak said: I don't know.. maybe when you're a moderator on a forum of a whopping 100k people the asshole persona slides right on through. Not here though bro, we don't give a fuck what forum you probably ran like an asshole. You're no moderator here, and you won't EVER be from the way you are presenting yourself. There's this thing called a clue, go get one. People on this board like respect.. this is a more real forum than most, and I see that you are not real. You think you are, but you're just an asshole.
Come closer, feel my arms around you. There, there little bear! Cry on my shoulder, yes, it'lll be alright, dont cry little bear
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
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Im just fucking with you and think you are funny and deserve to have one of those hindu folks shove their left hand up your ass and twist. You dumbass.
Try a more ummmm, holistic approach when talking about religion next time. Then people like me wont come along and make fun of what an idiot you are.
Your the 17 year old who talked about me having a vagina and such bullshit. I dont have a vagina, but what if I did? You misogynist dipshit.
You are a hipster. You say things that indicate that you are a total fucking hipster. Gold chains, lowriding the pants, and happen to own a book on hinduism. Leave vaginas out of it you sand monkey. Kidding, just trying to put this puzzle together for you. "Yer" a joke.
Sorry just had to meet you 1/4th of the way on the road to retardation. Ill turn back, but im not so sure you will change the ridiculous size of your "e-penis". You ironic dipshit. Atleast im having fun. You want to keep spouting about you bullshit to a bunch of "mushroomheads" then be my guest my fancy friend. Get that?
You are really bad at flamming. Very amusing though.
Yep, yer a bitchface.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7411076 - 09/14/07 09:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yageman said: Im just fucking with you and think you are funny and deserve to have one of those hindu folks shove their left hand up your ass and twist. You dumbass.
Try a more ummmm, holistic approach when talking about religion next time. Then people like me wont come along and make fun of what an idiot you are.
Your the 17 year old who talked about me having a vagina and such bullshit. I dont have a vagina, but what if I did? You misogynist dipshit.
You are a hipster. You say things that indicate that you are a total fucking hipster. Gold chains, lowriding the pants, and happen to own a book on hinduism. Leave vaginas out of it you sand monkey. Kidding, just trying to put this puzzle together for you. "Yer" a joke.
Sorry just had to meet you 1/4th of the way on the road to retardation. Ill turn back, but im not so sure you will change the ridiculous size of your "e-penis". You ironic dipshit. Atleast im having fun. You want to keep spouting about you bullshit to a bunch of "mushroomheads" then be my guest my fancy friend. Get that?
You are really bad at flamming. Very amusing though.
Yep, yer a bitchface.
Dude, Im still not your therapist. I am not laughing at you, I am just laughing in your general direction. I really think you should get a life lol, I feel no need to get sucked into your internet e-thugness. Tell someone off. I dont read more than a few words of your posts to just get the general tenor of them and they seem to be negative, from the small amount I read. So you really are wasting your time typing to smoeone who doesnt care enough to read them. I am your neighbor
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7411080 - 09/14/07 09:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find the fact that he comes to a board about mushrooms, and then insults shroomers magnificently retarded. What a dipshit....
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
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StreetFreak said: I find the fact that he comes to a board about mushrooms, and then insults shroomers magnificently retarded. What a dipshit....
Get over yourself sister, save yo drama fo yo mama! You were shouting down posts when it was non-insulting, non-threatening. Just b/c I hit back, you cry like a little bitch. You got a saggy diaper that leaks, go have mommy change it. You RULE THE INTERNET DUDE!! Lmao, you have to give your negative two cents. I think you are a complete shithead. Some losers on every chatboard camp out like a Motherhen offering their negative piece of advice to everyone. Always negative. Get this, I've seen your kind many a times. You are simply a negative loser. I am poking fun at you and you still dont get it. Still depressed, stll negative. I bet you wont amount to much in life with your negative attituge. Who the fuck would want to be around you? Especially in real life. That is why dudes like you camp out on internet boards offering their e-thoritay where no one requests or gives a shit about it.
Now, piss off loser
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StreetFreak said: I find the fact that he comes to a board about mushrooms, and then insults shroomers magnificently retarded. What a dipshit....
Get over yourself sister, save yo drama fo yo mama! You were shouting down posts when it was non-insulting, non-threatening. Just b/c I hit back, you cry like a little bitch. You got a saggy diaper that leaks, go have mommy change it. You RULE THE INTERNET DUDE!! Lmao, you have to give your negative two cents. I think you are a complete shithead. Some losers on every chatboard camp out like a Motherhen offering their negative piece of advice to everyone. Always negative. Get this, I've seen your kind many a times. You are simply a negative loser. I am poking fun at you and you still dont get it. Still depressed, stll negative. I bet you wont amount to much in life with your negative attituge. Who the fuck would want to be around you? Especially in real life. That is why dudes like you camp out on internet boards offering their e-thoritay where no one requests or gives a shit about it.
Now, piss off loser
I'm starting to realize you're such a fucking idiot that it's not funny anymore. Don't act like you know 1/100th the person I am, because you don't.
Negative attitude lol.. I guess it's too bad I didn't address your negative bullshit posts with a super duper positive attitude.
It's amazing you have the power to instantly know and understand the lives people lead by reading 2 post. Actually you cant, that's jsut something you love to believe. You don't know shit about me. You have already proved that to me.
I think we've all seen your type before. The ex-forum moderator that finds a new forum, and instantly starts trying to establish himself so he can have super duper position of power to moderate a forum once again. Then you realize you just got lucky last time, and that nobody will ever, at least at this forum, accept your dumbass.
In this very thread you go through obviously saying something you believe, to stating you didn't mean what you say, to saying your just fucking with us. Wow, stop being a pussy.
You really don't know, or are even close to comprehending who I am. Just shut the fuck up before you piss everyone off.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7411163 - 09/14/07 10:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nope didnt even read his last comment(not worth it), but saw the last of his last comment.
"Now, piss off loser".
My reaction to that is:
yer an idiot.......
"loser" Really man?
What a dipshit.
You cant hold your own with almost anyone here. The best flammers have made a fool out of your many paragraphs worth of nonsense.
Im only being so mean because I care.....lol
You are only here for your own entertainment aswell. The only difference is, you are not even very good at being an asshole.
You need to find another place where you can be an asshole. People who have used this site for a while know how to act. You are just not a very cool person. ("guy"/"vagina")
Fugya
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: Spiritual Seeker]
#7411174 - 09/14/07 10:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Spiritual Seeker said: And for all im guessing. The idea of jesus could of been started by a Psychedelic.
^that's long been a theory of mine.
I don't doubt for one second that most of the first bible/verses of it/whatever were written by drunk literate men who had also ingested ryebread/grain with ergot on it.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
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StreetFreak said: I find the fact that he comes to a board about mushrooms, and then insults shroomers magnificently retarded. What a dipshit....
Get over yourself sister, save yo drama fo yo mama! You were shouting down posts when it was non-insulting, non-threatening. Just b/c I hit back, you cry like a little bitch. You got a saggy diaper that leaks, go have mommy change it. You RULE THE INTERNET DUDE!! Lmao, you have to give your negative two cents. I think you are a complete shithead. Some losers on every chatboard camp out like a Motherhen offering their negative piece of advice to everyone. Always negative. Get this, I've seen your kind many a times. You are simply a negative loser. I am poking fun at you and you still dont get it. Still depressed, stll negative. I bet you wont amount to much in life with your negative attituge. Who the fuck would want to be around you? Especially in real life. That is why dudes like you camp out on internet boards offering their e-thoritay where no one requests or gives a shit about it.
Now, piss off loser
I'm starting to realize you're such a fucking idiot that it's not funny anymore. Don't act like you know 1/100th the person I am, because you don't.
Negative attitude lol.. I guess it's too bad I didn't address your negative bullshit posts with a super duper positive attitude.
It's amazing you have the power to instantly know and understand the lives people lead by reading 2 post. Actually you cant, that's jsut something you love to believe. You don't know shit about me. You have already proved that to me.
I think we've all seen your type before. The ex-forum moderator that finds a new forum, and instantly starts trying to establish himself so he can have super duper position of power to moderate a forum once again. Then you realize you just got lucky last time, and that nobody will ever, at least at this forum, accept your dumbass.
In this very thread you go through obviously saying something you believe, to stating you didn't mean what you say, to saying your just fucking with us. Wow, stop being a pussy.
You really don't know, or are even close to comprehending who I am. Just shut the fuck up before you piss everyone off.
So do you think I am your therapist or something like the other dude? Why even converse with me if you hate me so much? You are addicted to my intelligence, that is why. You are simply, in your angry way of communicating, asking me to enlighten you. My going rate of medicare reimbursement is 350$/hour. Private insurance is up to 700$ for my speciality. If you would like to western union me the money. I'll help you work through your issues, even though my specialty is medicine, not vetrinarian work. But point is, no matter how much you hate me or bitch. I will always make alot more money than you lol.
Now, once again, piss off loser *flick*
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7411271 - 09/14/07 10:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why do all your flame posts have the same template?
Is it because you are VERY slow?
I think so.
Anyways, each post is dumber than the last.
That must suck for you my enlightened friend.
BTW, (by the way), you are really bad at thinking, and you actually are pretty shitty when it comes to writing coherently on the internet.
Go away, asshole/dipshit.
Why would you think I thought you were my therapist? Are you really this stupid?
You said I might be 17 or some shit. As if that really matters. Why do you argue like a 10 year old with a thick vocabulary?
You dipshit.
You are fucking with the wrong "mushroomheads". Lets just make that clear you dumbshit.
Most of us could make fun of the fact that you posted something you found on the internet about hinduism, or they might just want to have fun with you.
Get real man. This place is for people with relatively good mannors. So leave honest folks out of it. The only way you can be honest is to mean it, and everything you have said thus far is a joke made by a guy who cant "flame good".
Give it up.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
Edited by yageman (09/14/07 10:31 PM)
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7411306 - 09/14/07 10:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nobody thinks that you are their therapist here. This is you feeding your "e-penis."
Your arrogance concerning your salary shows everyone here what kind of person you are.
You do not belong here, please leave ASAP, because it is indeed inevitable that your stay here is not permanent.
You are the loser getting off on your own egotistical posts.
Remember the clue thing I told you about?
You believing you are an intellectual bleeds off your posts like a fat man eats cake. You feed off your own comments, and then make yourself believe your rivalries are the ones infact feeding off their own. It's you dumb ass, you've added nothing to the forum since you arrived, and I suspect it will continue that way. What's your problem? Shouldn't you be busy bullshitting with people in person, trying to convince yourself and them that you are helping them?
If you are a therapist I feel sorry for anybody that comes into contact with you in a professional environment. You are a dumb ass and it's plain as day. God save the people you provide "therapy" to. I assume people leave your place of work far worse off than they arrived.
Fuck off, you bore me.. and I assume everyone else here.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411377 - 09/14/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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StreetFreak said: Nobody thinks that you are their therapist here. This is you feeding your "e-penis."
Your arrogance concerning your salary shows everyone here what kind of person you are.
You do not belong here, please leave ASAP, because it is indeed inevitable that your stay here is not permanent.
You are the loser getting off on your own egotistical posts.
Remember the clue thing I told you about?
You believing you are an intellectual bleeds off your posts like a fat man eats cake. You feed off your own comments, and then make yourself believe your rivalries are the ones infact feeding off their own. It's you dumb ass, you've added nothing to the forum since you arrived, and I suspect it will continue that way. What's your problem? Shouldn't you be busy bullshitting with people in person, trying to convince yourself and them that you are helping them?
If you are a therapist I feel sorry for anybody that comes into contact with you in a professional environment. You are a dumb ass and it's plain as day. God save the people you provide "therapy" to. I assume people leave your place of work far worse off than they arrived.
Fuck off, you bore me.. and I assume everyone else here.
Yep, thats it.
It wont be the end though. This guys E-penis wont leave him alone.
Its sad really.
If he is as smart as his books are, it will change his approach....or not. If not, he is still just a little dipshit that practices bad form now and again. A total bullshit artist.
Is he a jester, I think so anyways. He lost though. He may just continue coming to this site and being a ridiculous person. Thats cool with me, as long as he realizes that there are people here who "read good" and can tear him a new one.
Yep, hes a dipshit, through and through.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411405 - 09/14/07 10:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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You guys are truly e-cowards. I bet you want to hit me lol. There are tards like you on every internet forum. I just chose to laugh at you tonight at your own expense. Whatever forum I choose to grace with my presence. There will always be personalities like you. You are the common shithead, you are everywhere. Why would I care to go to any forum, there are replicas like you everywhere. Same personality constructs, same way of trying to show how e-tough they are. I could never escape personalities like you no matter where I went. Here, there, there is a small percentage of every population who are assholes. You are the representatives at this forum. Guys who have no lives who camp out on a forum trying to "regulate" content to their own way of thinking of what is right and wrong> Censoring, shouting down those they deem wrong or disagree with.
You simply are just plain blathering idiots, you are in the government, the police force, most likely the type who never went to college or dropped out of highschool, but know it all and how it's supposed to be.
If you think you are driving me or forcing me out, it's because I am going to a nice restaurant tonight b/c I have a life and this was just wasting my time until the other party is free. Let me ask you guys this, when was the last time you went out to a nice restaurant? When was the last time you had an enjoyable night out without drugs? How long have you gone without logging onto the internet.
I think we all know the answers to these questions and you know what the truth is, regardless of your whinging about my posts> Your whinging is just a reflection of how you feel about your life. A happy person would not give a shit about any of the posts I've made in this or any other thread. Therein lies the truth.
I'll think about you two as I savor the most delicious calamari in the world in an hour. Lightly dusted, flash fried appetizer with a butter garlic and tangy lemon peel addition. My dinner will cost more than you make in a week Im sure lol.
Tata mon amie's.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7411425 - 09/14/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wont read that.
You are what you are. Im going to bed.
And you are still a slut. Serry, jerkoff.......... Hope that post of yours made you feel like less of an idiot and further illustrated what Myself and streetfreak are saying.
Good luck, and keep posting. Ill be here to keep your bullshit in the "idiot check" category.
By the way I browsed that post, and I have confirmed that your posts just get worse and worse.
Give it up you fucking tool.
Stop making fun of yourself.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7411426 - 09/14/07 10:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think I'll go elsewhere for a summary of the Upanishads. While some points seem to point in the correct general direction, the synopsis shows a clear lack of understanding. It's okay though, philosophy is not for everyone, and the Bhagavad Gita as well is a difficult text. It is hilarious that you believe there is a single interpretation of the text, however. Really?
Next you'll tell me there is a single way to solve a math problem or answer a question.
How quickly your arrogance displays itself, and immediately invalidates your argument and points to your inner disharmony. "Tat vam Asi" you claim. Here is the point of the Upanishads. Brahman = Atman, I win. Yet you seem to miss entirely "Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti", the call for tranquility, for divine stillness, for Peace everlasting.
Wikipedia knows more than you, and yet is far removed from the lofty heights of erudite education you imply you have.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7411442 - 09/14/07 11:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yageman said: I wont read that.
You are what you are. Im going to bed.
And you are still a slut. Serry, jerkoff.......... Hope that post of yours made you feel like less of an idiot and further illustrated what Myself and streetfreak are saying.
Good luck, and keep posting. Ill be here to keep your bullshit in the "idiot check" category.
By the way I browsed that post, and I have confirmed that your posts just get worse and worse.
Give it up you fucking tool.
Stop making fun of yourself.
Thanks for saving me the energy, because that's exactly the way I feel
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: AnotherDimension]
#7411457 - 09/14/07 11:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AnotherDimension said:Wikipedia knows more than you, and yet is far removed from the lofty heights of erudite education you imply you have.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411486 - 09/14/07 11:20 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hahaha, I totally got under your guy's skin. You guys have been totally pwned! Deal with it, you wasted so much time. Oh and it's nice to have a mission in life. Go internet police force!! Losers lol. It's been really funny punking you jugheads fo real, fo sho! Now I gots a date to keep.
*group hug* c'mon, you know you want to, hahaha
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411505 - 09/14/07 11:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yessssssss.. thank you!
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: StreetFreak]
#7411513 - 09/14/07 11:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AnotherDimension said: I think I'll go elsewhere for a summary of the Upanishads. While some points seem to point in the correct general direction, the synopsis shows a clear lack of understanding. It's okay though, philosophy is not for everyone, and the Bhagavad Gita as well is a difficult text. It is hilarious that you believe there is a single interpretation of the text, however. Really?
Next you'll tell me there is a single way to solve a math problem or answer a question.
How quickly your arrogance displays itself, and immediately invalidates your argument and points to your inner disharmony. "Tat vam Asi" you claim. Here is the point of the Upanishads. Brahman = Atman, I win. Yet you seem to miss entirely "Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti", the call for tranquility, for divine stillness, for Peace everlasting.
Wikipedia knows more than you, and yet is far removed from the lofty heights of erudite education you imply you have.
"Wikipedia knows more than you"............
So there you go.
Good luck with your texts. Nobody will bother with you besides this good man/woman and people like that. As long as you stay the same, people will only make fun of you from different angles jamesb.
Its time to make less assumptions about the people here(those you are talking to), and just be less of a jerkoff. Nobody wants to talk to a jerkoff about spirituality. Im sort of kidding, and sort of am not.
I dont want to read about your silly mental masturbation. I dont want to argue about nothing with you either.
You are all ego, and I was just fucking around with you. Because you are funny.
-------------------- [quote]Me_Roy said: You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life. Thanks shroomery.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7411548 - 09/14/07 11:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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This tread is Funny!!!
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: eVenom]
#7411632 - 09/15/07 12:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whoa, what the fuck just happened? I was pleasantly reading about OP's post-mushroom revelation, and I felt happy for the guy. Then all of a sudden jamesb and yageman are fucking shit up and arguing. I really don't care who started it, but seriously.. this is the Shroomery.
CHILL! Listen to some fucking Shpongle.. or something.
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: yageman]
#7411692 - 09/15/07 12:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Funny in a sad way.
And pls, when stating "facts" about another culture, know what you are talking about. Comes across really badly when you know nothing, and you say things that you have no clue about to people who are from the culture and know yours and theirs very well.
So sad to see people like this. Never used the ignore button before...maybe I should try it.
Seeker sorry we hijacked yur thread, but ya know how it is....
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Re: I found Jesus!......It makes sense now! ---kinda long-- [Re: jamesb]
#7412693 - 09/15/07 10:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i just cant believe that you act so intelligent and then continue to spew hatred about hindus/indians...
filthy people?
where are you from? because i guarantee that it is just as filthy in someone elses point of view.. but anyways, i will take that hug, bc i am not here to flame or be a jackass...
seeker - that is amazing that you have come to such a realization...im happy for you man!
good luck!
and perhaps this thread will end on a good note...GOOD VIBES TO EVERYONE
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Edited by usefulidiot13 (09/15/07 10:37 AM)
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