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Mushroom Myths
    #7404819 - 09/13/07 03:33 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Here are a few myths i have heard concerning magic mushrooms, if someone can confirm they are not true that would be great

The smaller the mushroom the more potent
Dry mushrooms get you higher than wet mushrooms
Caps are better than stems for tripping (and vice-versa)

thanks for any insight!


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7404825 - 09/13/07 03:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

All true.


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: Infested]
    #7404828 - 09/13/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

okay im gonna go ahead and not take that answer seriously


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7404830 - 09/13/07 03:38 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Aborted mushrooms can be more potent than fully grown mushrooms. Other than that, size doesn't affect potency.

Dry mushrooms do not get you any higher. In fact, an argument can be made for the opposite effect, since psilocybin is less stable and may degrade during drying. The general consensus is that there is no difference though.

Caps are more potent than stems.


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7404836 - 09/13/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What do you want me to wright a paragraph saying they are true?

Aborts contain more alkaloids.

Dry shrooms are more potent weight wise.

Caps contain 30% more alkaloids..


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: pokermush]
    #7404838 - 09/13/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

interesting.... thanks!


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: Infested]
    #7404847 - 09/13/07 03:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Infested said:
What do you want me to wright a paragraph saying they are true?

Aborts contain more alkaloids.

Dry shrooms are more potent weight wise.

Caps contain 30% more alkaloids..




sorry i wasnt trying to be an ass it was just when i said (and vice-versa) it made me think you didnt even read my post.

my apologies


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7404850 - 09/13/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh and also, its it neccesary to chew the mushrooms until they are paste, to get he full effect? when ever im about to pop some shrooms, people tell me "chew them to oblivion, you'll trip better"


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7404851 - 09/13/07 03:46 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

No worries.

Those sound like facts not myths :laugh:

Myth: Mushrooms make holes in your stomach lining and your brain.

Edit: Nope you don't have to chew them at all. Just chase them down, make some tea or place them on pizza.

Although tea makes trip more intense but shorter and it kicks in faster. I think this is to do with the surface area ready for absorption. So theoretically chewing does help, but just the idea makes me sick when i know all other ways you can ingest it.


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: Infested]
    #7404872 - 09/13/07 03:50 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Another myth is that cooking them destroys the actives. It doesn't, it just makes them taste better. You'll still trip just as hard. I always cook mine if I can.

Regarding the bit about dry shrooms being more potent, by weight yes. But drying a shroom doesn't make it more potent, you've just removed the water.


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: pokermush]
    #7404887 - 09/13/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome! i think ill make some shroom cake with a side of shroom tea im sure that will be a pleasant evening


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7405208 - 09/13/07 05:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ultimately, they are all true but they deserve some explanation...


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oONemesisOo said:The smaller the mushroom the more potent




During the maturing of mushrooms, sometime after the pinning process but, generally, before the veil breaks there comes a point when the mycelium no longer create new mushroom tissue and instead begins to gain pure water weight.  Mushroom tissue can grow up to 300% it's size by water gain however you're it's not new tissue, just stretched.

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oONemesisOo said:Dry mushrooms get you higher than wet mushrooms




This one I would argue against, however, the reason they're saying this it probably because they're thinking in terms of "gram for gram".  Mushrooms are approximately 90% water and it takes 10g wet to yield 1g dry.

HOWEVER, fresh mushrooms contain more psychotropic actives.  The only active that can survive the drying without oxidizing is psilocybin because of it's phosphorous lock on the nitrogen chain.  Psilobin is present in fresh mushrooms but quickly oxidizes as the fruit dries.  In your body, the phosphorous is cleaved off, rendering the psilobin nitrogen chain to go freaky freaky on your serotonin receptors.  :laugh:ance:

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oONemesisOo said:Caps are better than stems for tripping (and vice-versa)




This is a case of cellular density, not because of spores.  Spores contain no actives whatsoever, that's why their sale and trade isn't regulated as a controlled substance.  However, because the purpose of the mushroom is to disburse it's spore as effectively as possible, you'll find more tissue here...stems however tend to have slightly less dense tissue.

:shrug:

Hope that helps...


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Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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Re: Mushroom Myths [Re: oONemesisOo]
    #7405216 - 09/13/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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oh and also, its it neccesary to chew the mushrooms until they are paste, to get he full effect? when ever im about to pop some shrooms, people tell me "chew them to oblivion, you'll trip better"




This is more to speed up the come-up instead of making it more gradual and longer lasting. And basically, the smaller the piece that makes it in your stomach the faster it'll be absorbed.

You could also grind them up into a powder in a coffee grinder and then load those into pill capsules and simply swallow them...if you like that hard rush of TRIIIIIIIIIPPPPPPPPPPPPPPIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNGGG, lol.


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:justdontknow: Don't mistake my tone for a "matter-of-fact" attitude.  I'm just presenting what I believe to be correct, until I'm corrected...

- How Myco-Curious Prepares Coir & Compost Substrates
- How Myco-Curious Builds A Bulk Humidifier
- How Myco-Curious Builds An Automated Greenhouse
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figgusfiddus said:
Keep in mind that inoculating or whatever in front of a flow hood won't help your bad substrate, your bad inoculant, your bad sterile procedure, etc. etc. etc. It's not a +3 flowhood of magic, it's just a tool.


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