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OfflineToTheSummit
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Burning water as a fuel
    #7397369 - 09/11/07 05:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What do you think the chance is of them getting anywhere with this?
Burning water


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7397396 - 09/11/07 05:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I saw the videos a few months ago and it looks very promising but I bet it gets put down. That and the guy is more interested in curing cancer or Parkinson's or whatever his wife has.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: Gratos]
    #7397561 - 09/11/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i think its incredible really, using oceans as fuel. its everywhere. pretty crazy for the hydrogen react with the radiowaves. I gotta do some more research later on this.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: watchoutnow]
    #7397594 - 09/11/07 06:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

As far as I remember ANY salt water would do so you could make your own if you were so inclined. Im sure theres an optimal H20 to NaCl ratio though.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7397749 - 09/11/07 06:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wont happen. the amount of energy needed to power the resonant frequency would far outpace the power from the release of hydrogen


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7397760 - 09/11/07 06:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

this would be revolutionary if the radio frequency source consumed less energy than that produced by burning the resulting hydrogen. i really, really doubt that is happening though. it would sorta violate the laws of physics, at least as i understand them.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: wilshire]
    #7397965 - 09/11/07 07:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You don't have to be over unity for it to work and be revolutionary. If it is super efficient compared to electrolysis, then the cost of hydrogen fueled "whatever" would go down tremendously. Of course, we have no idea of the efficiency... could be worse than electrolysis for all we know.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7537718 - 10/19/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

why cant i find any articles on this anymore?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7538383 - 10/20/07 06:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

iraq bought the technology.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7538915 - 10/20/07 11:05 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

what is the tech? the link doesn't work. Is it some way of producing h2 and 02 from water?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: johnm214]
    #7538959 - 10/20/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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johnm214 said:
what is the tech? the link doesn't work. Is it some way of producing h2 and 02 from water?




is has something to do with radio waves(or something) burning salt water.

with global warming, and pollution, i really dont understand why our leaders aren't putting more thought into this.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7539054 - 10/20/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

Because it doesn't work. You have to put as much energy into releasing hydrogen as you get back by burning it.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #7539073 - 10/20/07 12:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

If I remember correctly, you can drive pretty fickin' far on a pretty fuckin' small amount.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: Diploid]
    #7539653 - 10/20/07 03:26 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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Because it doesn't work. You have to put as much energy into releasing hydrogen as you get back by burning it.




but couldn't they experiment with it and solve some problems?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7539921 - 10/20/07 04:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

There's a stoiciometric limit on how efficient the process can be made. Hydrogen used this way is an energy storage system, like a very efficient battery, but it cannot produce energy.

To produce energy using hydrogen takes giant football stadium sized petawatt lasers, not some garage junk.

Humans are working on the problem, but it's a very hard problem.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: Diploid]
    #7539977 - 10/20/07 04:51 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do you think we'll ruin our planet?


Edited by Diploid (10/20/07 05:02 PM)


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7540019 - 10/20/07 05:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do you think we'll ruin our planet?

In geologic time, humans are just a bad rash on the Earth that will heal after we're gone.


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: Diploid]
    #7540048 - 10/20/07 05:09 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

do you think our kind has done this before in the past, before this time through?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7540148 - 10/20/07 05:31 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

no, our kind has not been around very long...

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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: supra]
    #7540229 - 10/20/07 05:55 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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no, our kind has not been around very long...

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how can you be so sure though?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7540240 - 10/20/07 05:59 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

how can you be so sure though?

There are no fossilized ancient lasers found anywhere. :shrug:


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: Diploid]
    #7540242 - 10/20/07 06:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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how can you be so sure though?

There are no fossilized ancient lasers found anywhere. :shrug:




maybe they didn't make it that far...


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: LayYouIn]
    #7540380 - 10/20/07 06:49 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

maybe its because we destroyed them with nukes? or they are all buried on mars, we only sent over adam and eve remember?


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Re: Burning water as a fuel [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #7540625 - 10/20/07 08:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

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makaveli8x8 said:
maybe its because we destroyed them with nukes?  or they are all buried on mars, we only sent over adam and eve remember?




oh that's right...and that's why we are all a little mentally retarded.  :trophy:


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