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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7370466 - 09/05/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Before I went to Cuba last year, I read Che's Motorcycle Diaries and watched a Documentary about him.

His diaries were an excellent account of his young adult life, the poor living conditions in South America, and his travels across the continent with his best friend on a motorcycle. Very enjoyable and inspiring read, highly recommended.

In the documentary (which I forget the name, but can find out if someone is interested to see it) he killed all of those who were under Batista's rule, and he killed them without remorse. Straight up shot them through the head. *warning my opinion* That's what they should of done with the Nazi's instead of the Nuremburg trials where most of the Nazi's weren't even investigated, and many that were got off 'easy' relatively speaking. So yea, Che did kill a few hundred Cubans that were part of a dictatorship government. Che was a murderer, correct.

When I travelled in Cuba last year, Che's image was displayed everywhere around big and small towns alike, people there seemed to genuinely find him a national hero along with Castro, who overthrew an oppressive dictatorship that murdered thousands of innocent Cubans. Once you go down there and talk to people and immerse yourself in the Cuban way of life, you may find that the revolution Che and Castro brought fundamentally altered the nation for the better, at least for a little while. Not only that, Che and Castro banned any American products and services from Cuba because they were being bullied and exploited by the government suits and corporations in the US. The US was pissed because they were losing control of the island and they set up the military embargo... Cuba needed oil and the Russians were more than willing to help Cuba who opposed the US, especially during the cold war.... Castro was held by the nuts of both ends, from the US and Russians... he had to make some hard choices and in the end he along with Che and Cuba got fucked over either way. (not to say Castro didn't make mistakes too)

Anyway... to me Che is a role model for the good things he did in his life that I have read and heard about from people. I bought a Che shirt in Cuba and I like it very much. Also, in my room I have a picture of him with one of his best quotes: "Words that do not match deeds are unimportant".


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: chodamunky]
    #7372362 - 09/05/07 08:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: chodamunky]
    #7372462 - 09/05/07 08:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Invisiblechodamunky
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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: EntheogenicPeace]
    #7374064 - 09/06/07 10:28 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yeah man, I totally know what you are saying. Che died fighting for what he believed, Bush can't even put together a grammatically correct sentence.

I'm sure your trip to Cuba and South America one day will be an eye-opening experience. Do as much research as you can about history of the places you want to visit and a wealth of wonder will be revealed to you!


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: chodamunky]
    #7375728 - 09/06/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: Luddite]
    #7385349 - 09/08/07 08:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

viva la revelecion. It's not an antiviolence statement or hippy ideal. Sometimes man needs to fight for what he believes in and by doing so others support him rather than label him a coward.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: Luddite]
    #7385612 - 09/08/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Leaving aside everything else, where the hell does paedophilia come into this?


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7393191 - 09/10/07 06:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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StrandedVoyager said:
Che and Castro are heroes to me. That article is pretty good at distorting history and pushing an agenda though.




In Cuba, today, you would be locked up in a cell too small to allow you to
properly sit or lie down just for looking at a site like this.

I've recently traveled there, Havana is one of the most destitute and foul
metropolitan (if you can call it that) cities I have ever seen. The country,
in general, is in shambles and is not improving.

Even if you ignore the blood spilled during and well after the revolution
was over you cannot ignore the fact that the entire nation lives beneath a
cloud that promises indefinite detention (or worse) for speaking or thinking
freely.

Cuba is not a victory for communism in any regard. To believe as much implies
a grave misunderstanding of day to day life in that country.

I pray Raul takes official control soon, his overtures to the US have been
quite promising.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: afoaf]
    #7393265 - 09/10/07 07:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

btw, don't you hate when you reply to a post on page 1 only to discover
that the thread is already 5 pages long...what a tool.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: afoaf]
    #7395666 - 09/11/07 09:57 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

the original post is a mixture of inaccuracies and accuracies about che and fidel, you never differentiate between the two. Also that sounds like some CIA bullshit anti-communist propaganda.

Cuba was a playground for the mob to go and party and do hits before the revolution. Batista was payed heavily to run the exploitation of cuba. They wheren`t a communist revolution until fidel accepted support from the soviet union, to protect themelves from capitalist nations like America who where better friends with the mob. Later stalin ordered che be sent to south America to start a revolution with the blessing of fidel;basically a nice way to kick him out of cuba, since he was starting to object to the direction things where taking.
Then CIA found him and killed him. Neither communism nor capitalism really accepted him, since he cared about the people too much and rich people/successful governments have to exploit the guys at the bottom.

The revolution was a horrible failure, his goals could only be achieved in a utopian society which will never happen, theres too many assholes in the world. IMO your opinion is formulated out of ignorance and parroting.

The idea that communists have something to do with hippies is probably because the 60`s where being influenced by communist spies trying to destabilize america within by corrupting the minds of the youth. so yeah hippies are still ghey for wearing che tshirts because they are brainwashed and have no clue why they support che.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: ralphroks]
    #7395693 - 09/11/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I want to hoe out the guys responsible for this wave of anti che memorabilia because many bottom-trolling printers cant come up with their own shit so they hijack generic things like che`s image to print.
These guys are profiting off of his image and think its original because they add some crap like "che sucks" when capitalist copyright laws disallow such crap; so they take advantage of the fact che didnt copyright his image for profit to slander him and make $ without coming up with viable t-shirt ideas. Dont buy this crap its lazy b.s.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: ralphroks]
    #7395700 - 09/11/07 10:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

please make a point of responding to the person to whom you intend
your response.

there's a reason why every post has a 'Quick Reply' link next to it.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: afoaf]
    #7395733 - 09/11/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I dont pay attention to that its a stupid feature IMO I was able to tell you where talking to me without looking at the RE: AFOAF
sorry your name got placed. anyone who looks at Re: needs context help im not offering sorry.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: ralphroks]
    #7395770 - 09/11/07 10:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yes, I can see how properly addressing your response to the intended
recipient is 'stupid'...

first of all, I was NOT talking to you, I was responding to StrandedVoyager
as is clearly noted by the 'RE: StrandedVoyager' in my first post.

my second post was a comment to myself.

secondly, you're barely comprehensible as is, considering your apparent
inability to punctuate, capitalize or properly use the word 'were' so
you might consider using the features the board provides to help clarify
the intentions of your post....you need all the help you can get.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: afoaf]
    #7395839 - 09/11/07 11:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

We need a nit picking forum for grammar nazis.

Quote:

first of all, I was NOT talking to you, I was responding to StrandedVoyager
as is clearly noted by the 'RE: StrandedVoyager' in my first post.



Obviously Re: doesnt work since i was responding to post #3 on this page not w/e u said to Voyager. Their there and they`re are based on context since you cant see how the word is spelled when I talk. Its lazyness and apathy combined. I dont care if you understand< if you cant use context than it wasnt ment to be.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: ralphroks]
    #7395912 - 09/11/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I`d rather buy a zapatista doll than a che T-shirt. As to not look like a brainwashed hippie poser. back on topic.


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Re: Hippies support mass murder and blood baths [Re: ralphroks]
    #7396061 - 09/11/07 12:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

> I dont pay attention to that its a stupid feature

Fortunately, others do. I would hate for you to take an extra second to ensure that those of us that are stupid (and use stupid features) can understand out where your seemingly pointless ramble has been directed.

> Obviously Re: doesnt work since i was responding to post #3 on this page not w/e u said to Voyager.

Incompetence, not the feature, is the problem. I had no problem following the thread until your random post appeared out of nowhere. Obviously, I'm not alone as afof is also having trouble following you...

> Its lazyness and apathy combined. I dont care if you understand

Then why should I care about the point you are trying to make? Even if I do care about the point you are trying to make, based upon your grammar, spelling, punctuation, and style, I immediately assume that you are uneducated and not worth debating against. This may not be the case, but I have nothing else to base my judgment upon.

For your claim of apathy, you sure seem to have a lot to say about the matter...


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