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What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be?
    #7395735 - 09/11/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)
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L7 - Pretend we're Dead


Whats up with whats going down
In every city, in every town
Cramping styles is the plan
Theyve got us in the palm of every hand

When we pretend that were dead
When we pretend that were dead
They cant hear a word weve said
When we pretend that were dead

Turn the tables with our unity
They neither moral nor majority
Wake up and smell the coffee
Or just say no to individuality

When we pretend that were dead
When we pretend that were dead
They cant hear a word weve said
When we pretend that were dead

Come on, come on, come on come on

When we pretend that were dead
When we pretend that were dead
They cant hear a word weve said
When we pretend that were dead

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What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? And by stand up I mean activism on one of it's many forms to a degree where you feel committed to it.

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What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be?
You may choose only one


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7395930 - 09/11/07 11:37 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

This poll really doesn't not make sense.

It will take more than this?

What is the this wtf?

Will it take more than the song???????????

This is insane that 9 people before me voted and did not point this out!


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: budmanman]
    #7395931 - 09/11/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

People not posting irrelevant lyrics to songs I've never heard or don't like when trying to gain my opinion or support on a cause or idea.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7395952 - 09/11/07 11:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What will it take for me and probably every other stoner in the US to stand up and tell off the morons that run this country? Unfourtunatly, gas money to get there, enough money to have food and a place to crash for as long as we hold out, and probably booze and bud...and the hope that we have enough numbers to outweigh the mornic republican christian party baby boomers.

I just hate that thats not even close to what its going to take to change the zombified minds of 30 million greedy, fat lazy slobs who rather be spoon fed lies, then read the truth.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #7395968 - 09/11/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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What will it take for me and probably every other stoner in the US to stand up and tell off the morons that run this country? Unfourtunatly, gas money to get there, enough money to have food and a place to crash for as long as we hold out, and probably booze and bud





hahahaha

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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396005 - 09/11/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Honestly I'm giving it a 1 in 100 shot that Bush instigates executive order and retains the Presidency but if he does, I don't care about my job, my life, money, anything... I'm doing whatever I can to get to DC... okay let's be honest... the new capital in Crawford, Texas to do whatever I can to get that cocksucker out of power. I've thought about this a lot and I would do this for my country despite the implications or possible jail or even death sentences it would bring.

With that said though I doubt it'll happen, it's bad politics. The next administration will probably be a lot worse than the current administration.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396007 - 09/11/07 12:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

RandalFlagg said:
Quote:

ThirdEyeOpening said:
What will it take for me and probably every other stoner in the US to stand up and tell off the morons that run this country? Unfourtunatly, gas money to get there, enough money to have food and a place to crash for as long as we hold out, and probably booze and bud





hahahaha

Keep laying on that couch and keep the dream alive.





I know its really sad, especially since im in the lazy good for nothing stoner party, but the biggest problem i see with the whole "stand up and rebel" is that once we have some kind of audiance to listen to us, whats our plan? Do we have a course of action, cure for anything that paugues this country other than...no i dont think that right...maby this will work..

I sure as hell dont, i have no idea how to tell anyone else to live, its not my right to, or anyone elses.

I dont know, im not a politician, all i know is we need to find a solution to the probems of our country before we decide we should govern the rest of the world. I can offer suggestions, but i have no set in stone way to fix all the problems we have built over the past century.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396014 - 09/11/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

It would take a President retaining executive privelage past his term. You should already know my opinion as you deleted it from a few of my posts :wink:


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: ThirdEyeOpening]
    #7396058 - 09/11/07 12:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We must stand up for our rights! We must fight the power! We must......

Oh shit, just pass me the bong.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7396108 - 09/11/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:bongload:


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: budmanman]
    #7396113 - 09/11/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

This poll really doesn't not make sense.




Oh it makes sense, you just haven't succeeded in making some of it yet.


Quote:

It will take more than this?

What is the this wtf?




We're an international community. This thread is strictly between people and their government. If you are an American, its about the US Government. If you're a Frenchman, it's about the French government and/or the EU.

Worldwide there is a trend where government control gets an increasing hold over its people. Privacy issues of Orwellian proportions are seriously at stake today. There's scare politics being used, the dissent of the populations is rising. There's an increasing sense among people that shit's going too far.

What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be?
Quite a legitimate question in this day and age.

How rebellious or conformist is the Shroomery?


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Will it take more than the song???????????




L7 was quite a decent band that got unnoticed by many people. If it plugs a relatively unknown band, adds some music to peoples playlists and the lyrics are somewhat supportive of the topic, while being generic enough to not taint the issue, why not? :thumbup:


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396147 - 09/11/07 12:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

when the means has been stripped from our clutching grasping hands.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396192 - 09/11/07 12:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be?




I'll do it for pack of smokes and a six pack.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Rono]
    #7396231 - 09/11/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

your plan is to give those commie bastards in parliament cancer and cirrhosis of the liver?


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7396245 - 09/11/07 12:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think he's saying that if someone gave him a six pack and a pack of smokes he would overthrow the government


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396261 - 09/11/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

quiet, you will bring ruin on us all!!!!


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #7396265 - 09/11/07 01:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When they come for my cigarettes... And they will be coming... Bunch of neopuritan lackeys for an increasingly effeminate sissy-country anyway...

To paraphrase Charleton Heston: I hold up a pack of Marlboros and scream, "From my cold dead hands!"


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7396267 - 09/11/07 01:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

BURN TEH GOVERNMNETZ!!!LULZ!!!


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396305 - 09/11/07 01:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When they kick at your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7396310 - 09/11/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

When they come for me
I'll be sittin at my desk
With a gun in my hand
Wearin a bullet proof vest

Singing "my my my
How the time does fly
When you know you're gonna die
By the end of the night"


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396321 - 09/11/07 01:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

lol, that is funny shit. kudos sir.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: nakors_junk_bag]
    #7396334 - 09/11/07 01:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

your credit belongs to the band Catch-22, though I wish I could say I wrote it. Brilliant song


Anyway Wiccan, what will it take for you to rebel?


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396370 - 09/11/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

hooray for political stenciling


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: pong]
    #7396384 - 09/11/07 01:23 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Noam Chomski anyone?


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    #7396389 - 09/11/07 01:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yes please


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    #7396418 - 09/11/07 01:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
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I keep spelling his name wrong.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396561 - 09/11/07 02:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm on the edge.

Not much I can do really. I guess if it comes down to it I'll strap a nuclear device to myself and run at the Treasury / Parliament / FBI hq / NSA hq / IAO hq.

Well.. Actually I'd probably gather political support and express my liberal-leftist veiws and become a propaganda hound and then march on washington/london/UN council/Beijing/Tokyo/Moscow.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396829 - 09/11/07 03:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if i felt my personal freedom threatened to an extent that I deemed it worthy enough to expend my life fighting for, then yeah, I would fight back against authority. I don't feel that yet. Not sure what will cause me to feel that...


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Syle]
    #7396842 - 09/11/07 03:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How about revoking Habeas Corpus? Or legalizing warrantless wire taps? Or giving the president the authority to arrest anyone and hold them indefinately without trial?


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7396855 - 09/11/07 03:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

not worth dying for...yet...


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7397475 - 09/11/07 05:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyway Wiccan, what will it take for you to rebel?





True maliciousness on my government's part. If I lived in the US I would be at or over the treshold. I live in Holland however and a lot will have to happen here before my line is crossed.

I like to think that in Nazi Germany (or occupied Holland) I would've been in the resistance. We all like to think that, but you only know when you're on the spot, right?

When you throw a toad in a pot of hot water he'll jump out immediately, but if you put him in a pot of cold water and slowly heat that, he'll stay put until he's boiled.

I think that if America went from 1987 to 2007 in one go, the whole nation would stand up against the government. There you were as the Land of the Free being afraid of the USSR, and then you wake up one morning and find yourself in the USSA.

What's rebelling? At what degree does it start?

At the moment I'm rebelling by not believing in all the bullshit, by speaking my mind and not buying into the gloom and doom they use to try control us. I'm critical of authority and watchful of tricks used to manipulate the masses. I'm by no means rich but I pulled my "wealth" out of the international monetary system so that their underhanded monetary schemes, dirty economic tricks and blatant inflational thievery won't affect me, and won't fund their bullshit any longer. I provide the people around me with insights, food for thought and encourage them to be aware and think for themselves. And I do all this without buying into the fear tactics and the hype, and live as free of it as I can.

Thats my current level of rebellion. In Holland I'm far away from a Nazi-Germany type situation where rebellion turns into resistance. In America however you may be much closer to that.

Because in case you haven't noticed, they've started slowly heating the pot six years ago on this very same day, September 11.

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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7397672 - 09/11/07 06:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7397891 - 09/11/07 06:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

So what would you do? I mean, where do you even start in a situation like that?


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7397896 - 09/11/07 07:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

that L7 song is in natural born killers, good song, me and some mates played it in a school assembly back in high school :smirk:

i went to protest APEC last weekend ( Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation, when all the leaders where in sydney australia and they closed down the whole city for three days) they had so many police there for 'riot control' and to protect the leaders from 'terrorism', they had enough police to completely surround all us protesters, and this riot control water gun tank things, didnt stand a chance. fucking waste all our tax paying money on that shit


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7397939 - 09/11/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7397964 - 09/11/07 07:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Gastronomicus said:
:crankey:




thing is, that wouldn't work, thats a terrorist approach, but i do think a series of assassinations may... or may not :shrug:


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7397978 - 09/11/07 07:15 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

so I bought pound of buffalo meat today, some fresh tomatos, basil and garlic. I also bought a quarter pound of shittake mushrooms and some provolne cheese. Two baking potatoes and a yellow onion. I bought some hoagie rolls. I ate that shit yo!


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Psilobuds]
    #7398021 - 09/11/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7398030 - 09/11/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Assassination is cowardly. I will wage war. If it doesn't work, then I will die for my beliefs




Say hi to the Secret Service for me when they visit your house.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7398047 - 09/11/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Gastronomicus said:
Assassination is cowardly. I will wage war. If it doesn't work, then I will die for my beliefs




Say hi to the Secret Service for me when they visit your house.




That seriously happened to a friend of mine over something on his Myspace.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: RandalFlagg]
    #7398062 - 09/11/07 07:31 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, I'm slightly worried about that, which is honestly disgusting. In real America citizens should not be afraid of their government.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7398065 - 09/11/07 07:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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ApJunkie said:
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RandalFlagg said:
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Gastronomicus said:
Assassination is cowardly. I will wage war. If it doesn't work, then I will die for my beliefs




Say hi to the Secret Service for me when they visit your house.




That seriously happened to a friend of mine over something on his Myspace.




what happened to him?


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7398133 - 09/11/07 07:43 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

in Australia they have recently passed a law that allows police to arrest you with no reason, this is meant to be a democracy


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7398227 - 09/11/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Gastronomicus, you really shouldn't say shit like that. In this day and age people literally get a surprise visit for less.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7398249 - 09/11/07 08:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

My brother is in federal prison in mimai right now because of the some a the shit he said online. They came and took every computer in the family. He still hasn't had a court date, thins ahppened in april 05. course it didn't help he was stock piling weapons. I am just glad I dint know anything about til after it went down. hope they let him out soon. he isn't crazy like they say.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7398461 - 09/11/07 08:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

lol, WS likes L7... 
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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: HeadTripVertigo]
    #7398592 - 09/11/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I tell you what, If my friends/family disappear quietly in the night you can be sure ah hell I won't go quietly in the night. . . I will go loudly in the day time.  :burnbabyburn:


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7398964 - 09/11/07 11:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Yeah, you're right.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Asante]
    #7399089 - 09/12/07 12:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Gastronomicus, you really shouldn't say shit like that. In this day and age people literally get a surprise visit for less.




And we need jails for those who order the men to visit. Lots of jails, where once powerful men can gain insight when they happen to compare in their minds the assrape they just recieved in the showers to what they had been doing in their respective offices.


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Re: What will it take for you to stand up against your government and the powers that be? [Re: Konnrade]
    #7399352 - 09/12/07 02:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i put i can take much more.

if there is ever undeniable proof that the government is intentionally poisoning people

if there is ever mass arrests or mass excecutions outside of the realm of reason

if i see an alien space ship on tv and everyone is absolutely certain it is real

if we wage a pointless war that threatens the whole world openly for evil reasons (irag doesn't count because its not openly evil)

if anyone i know and love is ever killed or harmed greatly by the government for evil reasons

i think thats pretty much it.

my standing up to the government would take the form of me being a homeless street preacher. the homelessness just so people understand i'm serious.


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