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OfflineBrAiN
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Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election?
    #7395443 - 09/11/07 07:59 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wachu think, fooz?
Who's gonna be the man in 2008?
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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7395571 - 09/11/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Whoever the republican nominee is will win. democrats and independents are too divided this year and collegiate votes will fuck them all for a republican swing at the last minute. Rudy Guiliani is most likely the republican nominee Or ron paul or some other moron comes out of nowhere for an upset. Unless theres some secret agenda to turn it over to John Edwards or mccain I doubt we`ll be seeing a non-republican in office. Good thing Rudy turned republican;) too bad hes a dick. Some other moron is the terminator IMO


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: ralphroks]
    #7395612 - 09/11/07 09:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Rudy Guiliani is most likely the republican nomineeIMO




I have to admit... i'd vote for Guliani even though I think he's a hypocratical ant-art asshole.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7395684 - 09/11/07 10:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Rudy Guiliani is most likely the republican nomineeIMO




I have to admit... i'd vote for Guliani even though I think he's a hypocratical ant-art asshole.




That guy scares the shit out of me. If people think bush is a little totalitarian, what until that buffoon gets elected. He seriously has little dick syndrome. And he's another one with big money interests.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: trippindad82]
    #7395807 - 09/11/07 10:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

2 people here actually think Ron Paul has a chance in hell?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7395967 - 09/11/07 11:52 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

maybe a light rack will fall from the ceiling and crush all of them to death during some giant debate.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7396013 - 09/11/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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2 people here actually think Ron Paul has a chance in hell?




i'm sure they don't think that he could actually win. it's the principle...i did that whole bag of bullshit whenever i turned 18 and voted. then i compromised my third party morals in order to vote against bush in the next election in some desperate attempt to change the course of the nation. didn't work...now as i stare at this list of candidates, i don't see a single person i believe in. everyone who has a shot in hell is a total fucking whacker... bring on the light rack i say.

it is kind of funny though how the candidate in the poll who has the lowest percentage of supporters in the country has the highest number of votes here on the shroomery poll. it says something about the shroomery i think. :heart:


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7396076 - 09/11/07 12:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I predict Bush seizes power :crankey:

But if the election goes off without a hitch then Giuliani will win and we'll all be living in a third world police state


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396356 - 09/11/07 01:17 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Just remember.. I'm asking who ppl will win.. not who they want to win.

If it were up to me I'd have Nader as prez.... I even wrote him into my ballot in Cali last election because John Asshole Kerry worked so hard at getting him removed.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7396382 - 09/11/07 01:22 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Fuck Kerry. He couldn't unseat one of the worst presidents in history


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #7396761 - 09/11/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Agreed, bush sucks; Kerry sucks. I really don't like the maneuvering to limit third-party access to the ballots though- seems undemocratic.

I think we should have some sort of runoff voting where you can pick a first and a second choice. That way you can pick your first candidate (say, third party) while voting for a mainstream candidate (second choice) without helping the current asshole in power's (Bush) chances.

Neither party will ever go for the above though, unless people demand it- which they won't... they can't be bothered to learn the differences between the two candidates we've got now.. let alone more.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7398786 - 09/11/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries. As to who will win I can't make a good guess until I see who gets the nominations. Hillary or Obama will never be president if either gets the nomination and it looks like one of them will get it. The only Democrat I see that has a chance of beating any of the leading Republicans is John Edwards. I'll vote for Edwards in a heartbeat. But the Democrats are stupid and won't nominate him so they deserve to loose so fuck em. I could however live with Rudy or Thompson for 4 years.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7399097 - 09/12/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Funny, I don't see the "Illuminatti rep" option on the list.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7400631 - 09/12/07 12:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i voted for paul in this poll. call me crazy but whatever.

if paul or gravel aren't on the ballot, i'm writing them in.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: allreadyused]
    #7404834 - 09/13/07 03:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I could however live with Rudy or Thompson for 4 years.




You want more people to stuff our government with Christian Taliban?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7410775 - 09/14/07 08:10 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I think its funny how the general consensus out in society seems to be that Hillary will get the nod for the Dems (at least this is how I have experienced it).  Then when it comes right down to it no one thinks she can get elected.  Too much anti-Clinton sentiment out there for her to overcome I guess.

Heres to another Republican term in the White House. :shrug:


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7412627 - 09/15/07 10:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
2 people here actually think Ron Paul has a chance in hell?




i'm sure they don't think that he could actually win.

it is kind of funny though how the candidate in the poll who has the lowest percentage of supporters in the country has the highest number of votes here on the shroomery poll. it says something about the shroomery i think. :heart:




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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7412628 - 09/15/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

The New York Yankees will win the 2008 election.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #7412630 - 09/15/07 10:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #7412639 - 09/15/07 10:14 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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BrAiN said:
2 people here actually think Ron Paul has a chance in hell?




i'm sure they don't think that he could actually win. it's the principle...i did that whole bag of bullshit whenever i turned 18 and voted. then i compromised my third party morals in order to vote against bush in the next election in some desperate attempt to change the course of the nation. didn't work...now as i stare at this list of candidates, i don't see a single person i believe in. everyone who has a shot in hell is a total fucking whacker... bring on the light rack i say.





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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: adrug]
    #7412671 - 09/15/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

11 ppl here think ron paul will win the election.

Proof that mushrooms can rot your brain.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7412681 - 09/15/07 10:29 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I voted for Hilary in the poll. Not because I want her to win. But I think its either her or Guiliani and I can't accept that it might be Guiliani.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7412810 - 09/15/07 11:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

unfortunately i would have to say that its a toss-up between giuliani and romney...contrary to any news polls you may have seen..most americans heavily support further radicalization...


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7412820 - 09/15/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You underestimate the power of the pinstripes.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7412845 - 09/15/07 11:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If most Americans support it is it radical?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zappaisgod]
    #7412850 - 09/15/07 11:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

if the majority is always necessarily correct..then no..its not radical...


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Annapurna1]
    #7412911 - 09/15/07 11:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm not even going to vote, not because of the subject, but because of your horrific grammer.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7414194 - 09/15/07 06:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If Barack Obama gets the Democratic nomination, I believe that he will win the election.

If Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, receives the Democratic nomimation, then whoever the Republicans nominate will probably win.

Ron Paul doesn't have a fucking chance in hell.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7414227 - 09/15/07 07:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You honestly think racist crackers will vote for Obama? Oh and there are a lot of racist crackers living here.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7414234 - 09/15/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Where?

Alabama?

Mississippi?

Florida?

Do you really think any of those states would go for ANY democratic nominee?

Sure, there will be people who won't vote for B-Rock because he's black. But there are also alot of people who won't for Hillary because she's a woman, Romney because he's a Mormon Jesus-Freak, and Ron Paul because he's a big-eared little gnome.

But in the states that MATTER to the Democrats, I really dont think its going to be that big of an issue.

But every third person you talk to hates Hillary Clinton's guts and wouldn't vote for her if she was running against Beezlebub.

I, for one, would like to win one of these fucking elections before I turn 40.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7414388 - 09/15/07 08:04 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Point is that some people would still feel uncomfortable with a black president... There are parents that don't hate blacks but as soon as their kids try to marry a black person....


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7414423 - 09/15/07 08:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

And some people would be unconfortable with nearly all of the nominees, for varying reasons.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7414545 - 09/15/07 09:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

That's a given... but the point is that ordinary mother fuckers would flip if their baby girl started fucking a black guy. Hah.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7414589 - 09/15/07 09:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Obama for president- Hillary for vice.
You read it here first.


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    #7414863 - 09/15/07 10:24 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If Hillary does not win the nomination I'd be very surprised if anyone took on her on their ticket because she would alienate voters in the general election. There is no real plus to taking her.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: adrug]
    #7416236 - 09/16/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I voted for Hilary in the poll. Not because I want her to win. But I think its either her or Guiliani and I can't accept that it might be Guiliani.




I'd hate to see Hilary or Guliani president. Guliani is a hypocritical douche and Hillary is a conceited bitch that talks down to everyone and thinks he's better than everyone else.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7416241 - 09/16/07 11:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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If Barack Obama gets the Democratic nomination, I believe that he will win the election.

If Hillary Clinton, on the other hand, receives the Democratic nomimation, then whoever the Republicans nominate will probably win.

Ron Paul doesn't have a fucking chance in hell.




The dems need to realize that even though Hilary has more support from the democrats... they're aren't going to sway dems to vote republican no matter who they pick (Hilalry or Obama). However if Barack gets the nomination then I bet there are plenty of republicans that would vote for him because he's "NOT HILARY".

I think it would be smart to give Obama the vote because he's capable of getting more non-party votes.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zorbman]
    #7416248 - 09/16/07 11:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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If Hillary does not win the nomination I'd be very surprised if anyone took on her on their ticket because she would alienate voters in the general election. There is no real plus to taking her.





I'm predicting an Obama/Edwards ticket for that very reason... and also because there's been so much bad blood between Obama and Hilary so far as well.

Edwards is more marketable to non-democrats as well.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416258 - 09/16/07 11:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I vote for CARCETTI!!

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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416603 - 09/16/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Bill Pullman 2008!


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    #7416654 - 09/16/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Edwards is more marketable to non-democrats as well




Yep. Having a white southern male on the ticket just might allow them to pick off a southern state or two. With Hillary on the ticket you can forget that.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zorbman]
    #7418817 - 09/17/07 03:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm hoping Edwards will run. If he does, I'd vote for him in a snap and I think he'd end up winning. if Obama and Hillary teamed up, the democratic base might be united enough to get them in as well. I just can't see a slightly-black man and a woman winning presidency of the united states. That's precisely why I'd vote for them.

Based on the shroomery poll though it looks like Ron Paul has the oval office. BWHAHAHAHHA! He's a real person! He'll be shot before they can announce his win in the primaries!

Although I recall he had 30% in some fox news poll which really suprised me. He was right up there with Giulianni, the mafioso dick-head. They later explained that the whole thing was a mess-up and Ron Paul's guys cheated. I'm sure that explains it Fox News. Thanks for clearing that up. I almost had a positive thought about you.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #7418889 - 09/17/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Imagine if Hilary or Obama got the nomination.. and chose GORE as the VP running mate.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423066 - 09/18/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone but Hillary!


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423132 - 09/18/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I voted for Hilary in the poll. Not because I want her to win. But I think its either her or Guiliani and I can't accept that it might be Guiliani.




I'd hate to see Hilary or Guliani president. Guliani is a hypocritical douche and Hillary is a conceited bitch that talks down to everyone and thinks he's better than everyone else.




I'm with you. I think Giuliani has a shot, and he is the last person I want to see be president of the united states. When I look at what New York was like before Giuliani and what it is like now and then think about the same trends on a nationwide scale, I feel like running far far away.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7423322 - 09/18/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone but Hillary!




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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423952 - 09/18/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Does it really matter who wins?
Castro could be our President and he
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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7424120 - 09/18/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you dont think it matters who wins, you're out of your mind.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7424376 - 09/18/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We have a black man, an anti gun freak, a mormon, and a few whack jobs running for President. It doesn't really matter who gets the presidency. I like McCain, because he's anti lobbyist and means it.
But McCain and Ron Paul are in the same boat, neither will win.

Personally, I predict Hillary as our next Pres, but I could really care less who wins. Anyone is better than Bush.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7425046 - 09/18/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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When I look at what New York was like before Giuliani and what it is like now and then think about the same trends on a nationwide scale, I feel like running far far away.




You have got to be kidding me. Do you live in some romantic world of CBGB on every corner or do you just prefer a three fold greater chance of being robbed, mugged or murdered? Do you live there and are you over 35 years old?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7426370 - 09/18/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I could however live with Rudy or Thompson for 4 years.




You want more people to stuff our government with Christian Taliban?




I said I could live with it not like it. Much in the same way people can live with herpes or HIV. It's an irritation but you can still have a pretty normal life.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: allreadyused]
    #7427022 - 09/19/07 06:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Normal life? Those cocksuckers want religion pushed onto everyone living here.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7427233 - 09/19/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Normal life? Those cocksuckers want religion pushed onto everyone living here.





I bet you say the same about GWB.


Funny, I nor anybody else I know has gone to a single day of church more than they wanted to since GW was elected... and the immoral debauchery has proceeded as before.

It's the strangest thing but I don't see a single bit more "religion" anywhere. Oh, except sometimes during his addresses to the union he mentions God.
I don't watch them in the first place. Be honest, neither do you, they're all boring as hell and there's only ever about 3 minutes worth of interesting content that you'll hear about on the news for the next week anyway.

So tell me again how any of these Presidents will force religion down anyone's throats?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427317 - 09/19/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> It's the strangest thing but I don't see a single bit more "religion" anywhere.

Gay marriage... war in Iraq (God told George to invade)... unIntelligent Design... etc, etc, etc, ... open those eyes and look around.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Seuss]
    #7427547 - 09/19/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

and how has any of that changed for the worse?

gay marriage has NEVER been allowed. Oh.. except now in a few states it is. the war in iraq has nothing to do with religion, that's more of a stretch than saying it was all about oil. it was about MANY things.

the intelligent design issue has been floating around for DECADES.. the scopes monkey trial was back in 1925. It's no more of an issue now than it was 80 years ago, or 10 years ago.

Two of those issues don't even have anything to do with the president at all, anyway. GW has no impact on gay marriage -- that's a state issue right now -- nor does he have any impact on the ID debacle.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427581 - 09/19/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why is saying the war was about Oil a stretch?

Even Alan Greenspan, said the motivation for war on Iraq was for Oil. Is Alan Greenspan a moonbat now too?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427760 - 09/19/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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gay marriage has NEVER been allowed. Oh.. except now in a few states it is.




Yes but now the "Federal Marriage Protection Act" is on the table for the first time in history, which if enacted would ban every state from allowing gay marriage


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GW has no impact on gay marriage -- that's a state issue right now




IBID, and GW is one of its supporters.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7428273 - 09/19/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, that's not what Greenspan said. Greenspan felt that in his opinion it was necessary to resume hostilities in Iraq in order to ensure a steady flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz, and he relayed that opinion to the administration. The administration, however, rejected that as a motive for the invasion.




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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Phred]
    #7428397 - 09/19/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Greenspan was wrong about something though. Not everyone seems to know.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7428492 - 09/19/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In Greenspan's opinion, the reason to depose Hussein was to stabilize oil flow from the Middle East. He himself felt that particular reason alone was all that was necessary (or at least was the most important reason) to resume hostilities with Hussein.

The Bush administration (and Congress) felt otherwise.

Let's face it, Greenspan is an economist. It's unsurprising he prioritizes in terms of economic repercussions.




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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7428766 - 09/19/07 03:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Why is saying the war was about Oil a stretch?

Even Alan Greenspan, said the motivation for war on Iraq was for Oil. Is Alan Greenspan a moonbat now too?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece




greenspan is not alone...fmr treasury secy paul o'neill said exactly the same thing in 2004...


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Phred]
    #7428838 - 09/19/07 03:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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The Bush administration..felt otherwise.




That is what they stated publicly. However, their actions belie their rhetoric.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zorbman]
    #7428862 - 09/19/07 04:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

What actions would those be?



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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Phred]
    #7428915 - 09/19/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

On a different note, how on earth is Ron Paul the lead in this poll? He's barely even mentioned in mainstream media (compared to other candidates)... I think it's quite the pipe dream to think he's got a change.

However, it sure would be nice....


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Phred]
    #7428917 - 09/19/07 04:26 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Securing new sources of oil was clearly a very high priority for the Bush administration upon taking office. This is evidenced by the fact that Cheney lauched his Energy Task Force in only week two of the adminstration's first term.

The proceedings were held in secret. (Of course anything involving the shadowy Cheney will be done behind closed doors). A Freedom of Information Act lawsuit uncovered documents such as maps of Iraqi oilfields, pipelines, refineries, terminals, and potential areas for exploration; and a Pentagon chart “Foreign Suitors for Iraqi Oilfield Contracts". All documents were dated March 2001.

Look at the priorities of our military upon taking Iraq. The country was allowed to be looted but the Iraqi Oil Ministry? Untouched. Oil infrastructure? Secured.

Just look at their actions. Look at oil prices over the last few years.

I know what their stated motives were. And I have noticed they have continually shifted over time. I have also noticed that virtually everything they have said about the Iraq war has proven to be false. Therefore I suggest everyone take their claims that Iraq was not about oil with a large mountain of salt.


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    #7428925 - 09/19/07 04:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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On a different note, how on earth is Ron Paul the lead in this poll?




Paul has a disproportionally large following on the internet and among libertarian-minded people. So it is no surprise that he is The Man here.

I agree he does not have a chance though. It would take a large crisis for Americans to support an agent of real change.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zorbman]
    #7428939 - 09/19/07 04:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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On a different note, how on earth is Ron Paul the lead in this poll?




Paul has a disproportionally large following on the internet and among libertarian-minded people. So it is no surprise that he is The Man here.

I agree he does not have a chance though. It would take a large crisis for Americans to support an agent of real change.




Exactly. The thread is called "Who is going to win," not "who do you WANT to win."


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: ApJunkie]
    #7428978 - 09/19/07 04:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If Ron Paul didn't look like the Heaven's Gate dude, he might have a better chance. In order to win, you have to be all botoxed up like a wax sculpture... like Mitt Romney. I think Mitt's just an alien. Wouldn't surpise me.

If John Kerry would have done some last minute bottox injections to give himself more of a padunkadunk and worn some hoochie mama jeans... he might have actually won in 2004.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7429147 - 09/19/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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If Ron Paul didn't look like the Heaven's Gate dude, he might have a better chance.




wow, that's too fucking funny. :grin:


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7430219 - 09/19/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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If Ron Paul didn't look like the Heaven's Gate dude, he might have a better chance.




:lol:  Good catch!


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