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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7416654 - 09/16/07 01:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Edwards is more marketable to non-democrats as well




Yep. Having a white southern male on the ticket just might allow them to pick off a southern state or two. With Hillary on the ticket you can forget that.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: zorbman]
    #7418817 - 09/17/07 03:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I'm hoping Edwards will run. If he does, I'd vote for him in a snap and I think he'd end up winning. if Obama and Hillary teamed up, the democratic base might be united enough to get them in as well. I just can't see a slightly-black man and a woman winning presidency of the united states. That's precisely why I'd vote for them.

Based on the shroomery poll though it looks like Ron Paul has the oval office. BWHAHAHAHHA! He's a real person! He'll be shot before they can announce his win in the primaries!

Although I recall he had 30% in some fox news poll which really suprised me. He was right up there with Giulianni, the mafioso dick-head. They later explained that the whole thing was a mess-up and Ron Paul's guys cheated. I'm sure that explains it Fox News. Thanks for clearing that up. I almost had a positive thought about you.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: beatnicknick]
    #7418889 - 09/17/07 05:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Imagine if Hilary or Obama got the nomination.. and chose GORE as the VP running mate.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423066 - 09/18/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone but Hillary!


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423132 - 09/18/07 11:00 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I voted for Hilary in the poll. Not because I want her to win. But I think its either her or Guiliani and I can't accept that it might be Guiliani.




I'd hate to see Hilary or Guliani president. Guliani is a hypocritical douche and Hillary is a conceited bitch that talks down to everyone and thinks he's better than everyone else.




I'm with you. I think Giuliani has a shot, and he is the last person I want to see be president of the united states. When I look at what New York was like before Giuliani and what it is like now and then think about the same trends on a nationwide scale, I feel like running far far away.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: lonestar2004]
    #7423322 - 09/18/07 11:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Anyone but Hillary!




I second that


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: BrAiN]
    #7423952 - 09/18/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Does it really matter who wins?
Castro could be our President and he
still wouldn't be as big of a fuck up as Bush.


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I've never come across a cow pasture in
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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Pledge2Educate]
    #7424120 - 09/18/07 02:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If you dont think it matters who wins, you're out of your mind.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #7424376 - 09/18/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

We have a black man, an anti gun freak, a mormon, and a few whack jobs running for President. It doesn't really matter who gets the presidency. I like McCain, because he's anti lobbyist and means it.
But McCain and Ron Paul are in the same boat, neither will win.

Personally, I predict Hillary as our next Pres, but I could really care less who wins. Anyone is better than Bush.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gluke bastid]
    #7425046 - 09/18/07 06:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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When I look at what New York was like before Giuliani and what it is like now and then think about the same trends on a nationwide scale, I feel like running far far away.




You have got to be kidding me. Do you live in some romantic world of CBGB on every corner or do you just prefer a three fold greater chance of being robbed, mugged or murdered? Do you live there and are you over 35 years old?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7426370 - 09/18/07 11:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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I could however live with Rudy or Thompson for 4 years.




You want more people to stuff our government with Christian Taliban?




I said I could live with it not like it. Much in the same way people can live with herpes or HIV. It's an irritation but you can still have a pretty normal life.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: allreadyused]
    #7427022 - 09/19/07 06:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Normal life? Those cocksuckers want religion pushed onto everyone living here.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: downforpot]
    #7427233 - 09/19/07 08:20 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Normal life? Those cocksuckers want religion pushed onto everyone living here.





I bet you say the same about GWB.


Funny, I nor anybody else I know has gone to a single day of church more than they wanted to since GW was elected... and the immoral debauchery has proceeded as before.

It's the strangest thing but I don't see a single bit more "religion" anywhere. Oh, except sometimes during his addresses to the union he mentions God.
I don't watch them in the first place. Be honest, neither do you, they're all boring as hell and there's only ever about 3 minutes worth of interesting content that you'll hear about on the news for the next week anyway.

So tell me again how any of these Presidents will force religion down anyone's throats?


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427317 - 09/19/07 09:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

> It's the strangest thing but I don't see a single bit more "religion" anywhere.

Gay marriage... war in Iraq (God told George to invade)... unIntelligent Design... etc, etc, etc, ... open those eyes and look around.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Seuss]
    #7427547 - 09/19/07 10:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

and how has any of that changed for the worse?

gay marriage has NEVER been allowed. Oh.. except now in a few states it is. the war in iraq has nothing to do with religion, that's more of a stretch than saying it was all about oil. it was about MANY things.

the intelligent design issue has been floating around for DECADES.. the scopes monkey trial was back in 1925. It's no more of an issue now than it was 80 years ago, or 10 years ago.

Two of those issues don't even have anything to do with the president at all, anyway. GW has no impact on gay marriage -- that's a state issue right now -- nor does he have any impact on the ID debacle.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427581 - 09/19/07 11:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why is saying the war was about Oil a stretch?

Even Alan Greenspan, said the motivation for war on Iraq was for Oil. Is Alan Greenspan a moonbat now too?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2461214.ece


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Mushmonkey]
    #7427760 - 09/19/07 11:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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gay marriage has NEVER been allowed. Oh.. except now in a few states it is.




Yes but now the "Federal Marriage Protection Act" is on the table for the first time in history, which if enacted would ban every state from allowing gay marriage


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GW has no impact on gay marriage -- that's a state issue right now




IBID, and GW is one of its supporters.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7428273 - 09/19/07 01:47 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Actually, that's not what Greenspan said. Greenspan felt that in his opinion it was necessary to resume hostilities in Iraq in order to ensure a steady flow of oil through the Strait of Hormuz, and he relayed that opinion to the administration. The administration, however, rejected that as a motive for the invasion.




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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: Phred]
    #7428397 - 09/19/07 02:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

“I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil,” he says.

Greenspan was wrong about something though. Not everyone seems to know.


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Re: Who is going to win the U.S. 2008 election? [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #7428492 - 09/19/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

In Greenspan's opinion, the reason to depose Hussein was to stabilize oil flow from the Middle East. He himself felt that particular reason alone was all that was necessary (or at least was the most important reason) to resume hostilities with Hussein.

The Bush administration (and Congress) felt otherwise.

Let's face it, Greenspan is an economist. It's unsurprising he prioritizes in terms of economic repercussions.




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