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September 11, 2001
#7394761 - 09/11/07 01:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i want to take a moment pay reparations to the people who lost friends and family in the tragic event of 9/11. It will never be forgotten and My heart goes out to those people who have lost loved ones in the catastropie, and may they R.I.P.
take a moment to think about your blessings, seriously. you have everything you need and much more to keep you content, you are fortunate in so many ways and it is important to be thankful for what you have, because as we all know you never know when you will lose it.
9/11 will never be forgotten and once more, to all those who passed in the horrible tragedy, may you all rest in
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: TYL3R]
#7394861 - 09/11/07 02:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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what the fuck is wrong with u?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
#7394863 - 09/11/07 02:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah theres a lot of sick people here at the shroomery
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394868 - 09/11/07 02:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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So it's okay to use the smiley on any day BUT the 11th? Get over yourselves.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394891 - 09/11/07 02:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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OH NOES IT'S MORALITY!
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394895 - 09/11/07 02:25 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: So it's okay to use the smiley on any day BUT the 11th? Get over yourselves.
I would have thought the same if it were on any other day. Besides, how did you come up with this assumption?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: CaptainH13]
#7394898 - 09/11/07 02:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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one mans lose is another mans treasure
time to go fill up the suv
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makaveli8x8 said: one mans lose is another mans treasure
dumbass...you mean "loss". "One mans LOSS is another mans treasure"
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394919 - 09/11/07 02:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i always thought it was 'one mans rubbish is another mans treasure'
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shitfacedme said: i always thought it was 'one mans rubbish is another mans treasure'
Your right. But he TRIED to make it fit into the topic
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394923 - 09/11/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i LOLed on 911. and no im not joking. it was not a surprise to me at all that the usa got hit. and the one person i knew that worked there didnt go to work that day
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394924 - 09/11/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Because that smiley's been around for at least as long as I've been here, and it's been used more than once.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394925 - 09/11/07 02:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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hey i don't like being flamed in the pub, asshat.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394926 - 09/11/07 02:39 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AG Tek said:
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shitfacedme said: i always thought it was 'one mans rubbish is another mans treasure'
Your right. But he TRIED to make in fit into the topic
Correcting other people's errors then making one yourself. Classic.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394932 - 09/11/07 02:41 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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ah ic
this could help alot of people here,its helped me:
These days, we tend to communicate via the keyboard as much as we do verbally. Often, we're in a hurry, quickly dashing off emails with typos, grammatical shortcuts (I'm being kind here), and that breezy, e.e. cummings, no-caps look. It's expected. It's no big deal. But other times, we try to invest a little care, avoiding mistakes so that there's no confusion about what we're saying and so that we look professional and reasonably bright.
In general, we can slip up in a verbal conversation and get away with it. A colleague may be thinking, "Did she just say 'irregardless'?", but the words flow on, and our worst transgressions are carried away and with luck, forgotten.
That's not the case with written communications. When we commit a grammatical crime in emails, discussion posts, reports, memos, and other professional documents, there's no going back. We've just officially gone on record as being careless or clueless. And here's the worst thing. It's not necessary to be an editor or a language whiz or a spelling bee triathlete to spot such mistakes. They have a way of doing a little wiggle dance on the screen and then reaching out to grab the reader by the throat.
So here we are in the era of Word's red-underline "wrong spelling, dumb ass" feature and Outlook's Always Check Spelling Before Sending option, and still the mistakes proliferate. Catching typos is easy (although not everyone does it). It's the other stuff — correctly spelled but incorrectly wielded — that sneaks through and makes us look stupid. Here's a quick review of some of the big ones.
#1: Loose for lose No: I always loose the product key.
Yes: I always lose the product key.
#2: It's for its (or god forbid, its') No: Download the HTA, along with it's readme file.
Yes: Download the HTA, along with its readme file.
No: The laptop is overheating and its making that funny noise again.
Yes: The laptop is overheating and it's making that funny noise again.
#3: They're for their for there No: The managers are in they're weekly planning meeting.
Yes: The managers are in their weekly planning meeting.
No: The techs have to check there cell phones at the door, and their not happy about it.
Yes: The techs have to check their cell phones at the door, and they're not happy about it.
#4: i.e. for e.g. No: Use an anti-spyware program (i.e., Ad-Aware).
Yes: Use an anti-spyware program (e.g., Ad-Aware).
Note: The term i.e. means "that is"; e.g. means "for example". And a comma follows both of them.
#5: Effect for affect No: The outage shouldn't effect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't have any effect on users.
Yes: We will effect several changes during the downtime.
Note: Impact is not a verb. Purists, at least, beg you to use affect instead:
No: The outage shouldn't impact any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage shouldn't affect any users during work hours.
Yes: The outage should have no impact on users during work hours.
#6: You're for your No: Remember to defrag you're machine on a regular basis.
Yes: Remember to defrag your machine on a regular basis.
No: Your right about the changes.
Yes: You're right about the changes.
#7: Different than for different from No: This setup is different than the one at the main office.
Yes: This setup is different from the one at the main office.
Yes: This setup is better than the one at the main office.
#8 Lay for lie No: I got dizzy and had to lay down.
Yes: I got dizzy and had to lie down.
Yes: Just lay those books over there.
#9: Then for than No: The accounting department had more problems then we did.
Yes: The accounting department had more problems than we did.
Note: Here's a sub-peeve. When a sentence construction begins with If, you don't need a then. Then is implicit, so it's superfluous and wordy:
No: If you can't get Windows to boot, then you'll need to call Ted.
Yes: If you can't get Windows to boot, you'll need to call Ted.
#10: Could of, would of for could have, would have No: I could of installed that app by mistake.
Yes: I could have installed that app by mistake.
No: I would of sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
Yes: I would have sent you a meeting notice, but you were out of town.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394934 - 09/11/07 02:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: Because that smiley's been around for at least as long as I've been here, and it's been used more than once.
Thats the first time I've seen it. I just think its fucked up people make a joke about death and use that sort of shit to illustrate their "jokes".
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394940 - 09/11/07 02:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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aw but see some of us here are conspiracy theorists, agree or not, to us, their is no bin laden, and Saddam never did have any "weapons".
leaving the only person left, is us, we destroyed that building ourselves.
because of the sick, and horrible thought, it makes one feel...hopeless.
mankind....is a joke. their really is no point in mourning anymore when we cause deaths on purpose.
at the very least you can agree on this, being in Iraq is doing nothing but causing deaths so the point is still valid i feel. we brought it on ourselves, why mourn?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394942 - 09/11/07 02:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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AG Tek said:
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jewunit said: Because that smiley's been around for at least as long as I've been here, and it's been used more than once.
Thats the first time I've seen it. I just think its fucked up people make a joke about death and use that sort of shit to illustrate their "jokes".
And I think it's fucked up people are so uptight and can't make jokes on serious issues. Guess we'll never see eye to eye.
You've probably never seen either. It's one of my favorites.
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When I saw those burning towers with the smilies suiciding, I literally Laughed out loud really loud for like a minute.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394944 - 09/11/07 02:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha death is one of the oldest jokes around, and one of our greates blessings.
just watch the roadrunner cartoons and see that death is a joke that is told even to kids.
i know i have joke countless times about people dying and had a hearty laugh. now 3000 people in a flaming building is a terrible event
but fuck man it was a while ago about 1/10 of your life ago.
yes you are gonna die too! and i find that hilarious.
just think that by age 21 you have lived one third to one fourth of your life and maybe you will start getting death jokes.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Maverick]
#7394945 - 09/11/07 02:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It was one of the first things I ever saw at the Shroomery, before I registered. I thought it was awesome.
I could post the "Jump" video here too. I wonder what kind of response THAT would get in the Pub.
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makaveli8x8 said: why mourn?
Even if the U.S. destroyed the buildings "themselves", whats wrong with mourning over the fact a lot of people lost a family member or a friend they will never see again? Just put your self in someones shoes who lost a dad or a mom because of this sick tragedy.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394956 - 09/11/07 02:56 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I propose that we all spare a moment to think about all the innocent Iraqi civilians killed since 2003.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394958 - 09/11/07 02:57 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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is it funny that the coalition kills arabic civilians along with the insurgants?
i think not but if i laugh about the fact innocents are getting slaughtered dont take it serious,im joking
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394959 - 09/11/07 02:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Honestly it shouldn't matter why someone was lost. I don't sit around moping and mourning my own passed family members, so why should I mourn the loss of others. It sucks, but I'm not gonna dwell on it every year. I'd hate to sound lame and cliche, but that really is just making the people who did it happy, so what's the point anyway?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394962 - 09/11/07 03:01 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: I don't sit around moping and mourning my own passed family members, so why should I mourn the loss of others.
im sure if they were murdered you'd remember
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394964 - 09/11/07 03:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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the point is all them shiny half dollar mimorials selling on ebay for $30.
yes lets remember 3000 people dieing each year....to remind us why were in iraq...thats all its about. at least...thats why its in the paper and crap.
im sure every year on sept 11, our gov gets 1million letters saying bomb iraq some more.
but as jew said, why mourn a stranger? and why are we not mourning the iraqy's that have died? nobody gives a dam about them right? cuss they are a different "culture"...just think about it.
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I didn't say I don't remember. But I don't mourn or mope on the anniversary. It happened. Dwelling on the past is a waste of time.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394967 - 09/11/07 03:04 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: so why should I mourn the loss of others.
You dont have too. I mean I don't sit around pouting all day either when it comes to 9/11. IMO joking about thousands of innocent people being killed isn't cool.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394969 - 09/11/07 03:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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And in my opinion it's perfectly fine. Like I already stated.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
#7394970 - 09/11/07 03:05 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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but to other people mourning them isn't cool either.
their is 2 sides to every coin and you must accept others don't think like you do.
put yourself in their shoes.
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this thread sucks
all i can say is
those smileys are fucking hilarious.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394975 - 09/11/07 03:07 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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nah man dwelling on the past helps us go forward
'lest we forget' means have some fucking respect for the dead
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394976 - 09/11/07 03:09 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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jewunit said: And in my opinion it's perfectly fine. Like I already stated.
Your right that argument went on way too long....
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makaveli8x8 said: but to other people mourning them isn't cool either.
their is 2 sides to every coin and you must accept others don't think like you do.
put yourself in their shoes.
touche
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I don't see how dwelling on anything can help me get anywhere. "Least we forget" means just that, don't fucking forget. Not "make a point to talk about it on the day it happened every year" or "don't make jokes about it because being uptight, sad, and serious is the only way to deal with it." People are gonna crack jokes about it, first off it's a great way to deal with grief, second off being serious about shit all the time is lame, especially when it's relatively in the past.
So sorry brahs, I'm gonna post my and make jokes about Asians shooting up my college campus all I want.
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its funny because osama bin laden was our ally.
and many other reasons.
and the fact that american imperialism is the cause of such things, yet our answer is more of the same.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: pong]
#7394981 - 09/11/07 03:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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pong said: this thread sucks
all i can say is
those smileys are fucking hilarious.
"well you know what i seen those finger paintings you bring home everyday and they suck"
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394982 - 09/11/07 03:11 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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reverence for a catastrophe or death is self-indulgent crap, and when I find someone (IRL) who feels the same way that AG Tek and a few others do, I then really try to offend them. I took some LSD at about 5pm the day before 9/11 and as I was laying down to try and sleep, a friend busted down my door exclaiming that the WTC was hit by two planes. The first thing me and my buddies did was smoke a bowl and try to get a drop on the 9/11 jokes.
Just because someone finds comedy in that which you find sadness doesnt make you a more caring person, nor does it make them an asshole. Everyone wants to connect themselves in some way to a tragedy, because people like drama.... perfect example is this thread: you guys could have let the Smiley go without derailing the thread, but you wanted to assert yourself, mood and opinions, onto the actions of other people.
Another problem I have with the "No laugh zone" people, is that they believe death is relative. Somehow, in their mind, a person dying from a jet ski accident is less morose and serious than a person dying in 9/11. Death is death... I want to ask the "no laugh zone" people, how many times have you snickered at the Darwin Awards?
so yeah, like someone said in the first few posts, get over yourselves.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7394985 - 09/11/07 03:13 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah remember that kid that got locked up because he drew a picture of a gun or something related to that college shooting.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: pong]
#7394987 - 09/11/07 03:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i hate alot of the shit ive read about the double dealing concerning binladen and i hate our governments as much as anyone but i will never respect or find it funny when innocents die
one thing that puzzles me if we did pull out of the middle east is the land the west owns there just like arabs own land in the west,who gets it?
we should just let arabs and asians permeate the planet and coexist with us but not the other way around?
fuck that
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shitfacedme said: i hate alot of the shit ive read about the double dealing concerning binladen and i hate our governments as much as anyone but i will never respect or find it funny when innocents die
 I know what you're trying to say here, but the way you worded it just makes it sound ridiculous.
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YawningAnus said: reverence for a catastrophe or death is self-indulgent crap, and when I find someone (IRL) who feels the same way that AG Tek and a few others do, I then really try to offend them. I took some LSD at about 5pm the day before 9/11 and as I was laying down to try and sleep, a friend busted down my door exclaiming that the WTC was hit by two planes. The first thing me and my buddies did was smoke a bowl and try to get a drop on the 9/11 jokes.
Just because someone finds comedy in that which you find sadness doesnt make you a more caring person, nor does it make them an asshole. Everyone wants to connect themselves in some way to a tragedy, because people like drama.... perfect example is this thread: you guys could have let the Smiley go without derailing the thread, but you wanted to assert yourself, mood and opinions, onto the actions of other people.
Another problem I have with the "No laugh zone" people, is that they believe death is relative. Somehow, in their mind, a person dying from a jet ski accident is less morose and serious than a person dying in 9/11. Death is death... I want to ask the "no laugh zone" people, how many times have you snickered at the Darwin Awards?
so yeah, like someone said in the first few posts, get over yourselves.
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jewunit said: And in my opinion it's perfectly fine. Like I already stated.
Your right that argument went on way too long....
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I don't think the event itself was funny but I do get tired of hearing about it. It happened, it was sad, it's over with so lets move on! As far as jokes go I think it's all free game. Everyone has taboos but humor is a good way to deal with things. It doesn't mean you don't care about what happened.
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yawning, i was making a similar point in the burning man thread. People thought the guy who committed suicide was a coward or selfish.
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our culture just so happens to like to make it a bad thing to scare people into living and putting up with bs crap....which is one of the reasons our government is so powerful everyone is scared to stand up.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Well now obviously people are going to want to add their two cents to this, it is a pretty hot topic right now.
Not to mention YawningAnus makes some great points as per usual.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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Not to mention YawningAnus makes some great points as per usual.
LOL .Yup he definitely stumped me.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Does anyone know anything about the majority of the Jewish people who worked in the WTC missed that day of work, conspiracy? My crazy philosophy professor told me that, but he also used to drop methaecstacracid. So I was unsure whether I believed him.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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the clearest cut piece of undeniable proof that the usa was behind it, was the fact that president bushes family member skipped work that day.
at least to me thats undeniable. they knew shit was goin down.
they have a website that has hundreds...maybe thousands, of little things like this about that day. It all points one direction.
and the response from that direction is
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makaveli8x8 said: nobody gives a dam about them right? cuss they are a different "culture"...just think about it.
Not because they are a different culture, they were celebrating the attacks, they obviously could give two squirts a piss about us. Why should we lose any sleep over them? (This thread had 26 more posts in it then when i last seen it so im kinda late :/)
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hoopershroomer said: i want to take a moment pay reparations to the people who lost friends and family in the tragic event of 9/11.
You have no idea what reparations means... I hope you're rich. Also by paying reparations are you admitting responsibility?
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so i take it your referring to the bin laden tape when they was listening to the radio when it happened and laughing?
or was it some other news clip from cnn that i missed?
and how does the biased news our country produce, justify putting them all into one group/culture?
us the people, have no freaking clue what we've done to other country's. honestly i would prob be celebrating it if i was them to.
and my point is they are innocents dieing right now too....everyday we are slaughtering them over their but nobody cares....why does nobody care? is it the news? or because they are "different". or just 2 fair away to care about.
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makaveli8x8 said: us the people, have no freaking clue what we've done to other country's. honestly i would prob be celebrating it if i was them to.
I agree with that. As for the celebrating you mustve missed all the arabs or whatever they are burning the usa flagg screamin and hollerin havin a good time on 9/11. Why arent we celebrating killing them like they did us? When they kill us, they celebrate, when we kill them its wrong even in alot of our eyes. Really im not for the war, niether am I against it.. BUT, imagine if this war was the other way around, us being invaded by them, do you think they would give a shit? Nope theyd be celebrating and partying that we are dieing.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: TYL3R]
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what the fuck is wrong with you people? this was a thread about having a bit a sympathy for the people that have lost loved ones on 9/11 and has been completely derailed. the war in iraq has nothing to do with the city workers that lost their lives trying to save other's lives.
feel free to start your own "Bush Sux", "Mourn the Iraqi Dead", etc threads. those threads will all be true and worth a read, but to mock the dead is wrong. parody and satirize the event and the leaders that handled the event inappropriately, but never mock the dead.
Have you people mocking the dead never lost a loved one? or even lost a dog? suffered any hardship what so ever?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: automan]
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i kinda feel that those of us posting through all this are "kinda" on the same page.
but i also feel that those just jumping in are gunna feel like automan.
as someone pointed out earlier, joking is a form of healing/mourning sometimes.
we all need to be open to everything, and accept other peoples thoughts, and views.
the thread was orignally derailed because someone didn't understand that at first, and then everyone jumped on the wagon to derailing farther.
I think it was a good discussion, even if that wasn't the purpose.
But again, this is a vaste community, you can't expect everyone to sit in a circle and cry together in teh same way,
an extreem example as i pointed out earlier with my quote, a tribe might embrace death, and see it as a beautiful thing.
we shouldn't section of this thread to just those that cry in a circle with candles "so to speak"
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After typing in here I went looking for that celebration on youtube and couldnt find it... I did watch a series of videos which is very interesting. They were running drills that morning of 9/11 of hijacked planes hitting towers. And then bush says they were not ever expecting something like this. Check this video out im puttin part 6 in here that explains what I said above.
Earlier in this series they talk about how there were bombs in the buildings that helped them fall.
This should be on topic, its about 911.
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Strange coincidence today.
We were in the Hiroshima Peace museum which is located right under where the a-bomb went off, listening to one of the survivors talk about that day.
Strange day to be there, and the speaker said it as well.
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first page of google showing youtube celebrations
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=arabs+celebrating+911&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
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it was easy as fuck too,whered you go wrong?
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Just pathetic. Immature dumb young kids LOL'ing and posting stupid smileys all the while completely emotionally ignorant of the fact that 3,000 real people with real families, friends, and lives died. Only caring about whether or not they have a full bowl to smoke. Not having one ounce of civility, compassion, or social consciousness.
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shitfacedme said: it was easy as fuck too,whered you go wrong?

Well i seen that one, it isnt the vid I was looking for, I was looking for the celebration where they burned the usa flag.
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We should be burning their flags. The Arabs are a backwards and corrupt people who stand on top of some of the greatest wealth the world has ever known and they still can't get their shit together and they cause nothing but problems.
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dam randal that last post of yours is confussing as hell.
but im a little disapointed after my last post that people still don't get it. I mean im not trying to change your views just get people to accept others views...or at least ignore them.
aw but alas purhaps im doing exactly that aw now im getting confused, sleep sleep i must sleep.
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i dont think theyre alone in being corrupt but yes,id love to see their flags burnt in massive all male american rallies
imagine how evil theyd think it was to get what they give
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They would be outraged. Note that when Islamic extremists purposefully blow up little children or when they hack off civilian's heads they don't really say much. But, when someone draws a stupid picture of their God or makes an affront of any type toward them then they flip out. 
It makes me sick that we are wasting resources and our troops blood on these people. I actually hope for a situation where the Sunnis and the Shi'ites and the Jews and the Arabs in general all go to war and kill each other off. Then we could go over there and suck all of the oil out of the ground and be done with it.
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RandalFlagg said: They would be outraged. Note that when Islamic extremists purposefully blow up little children or when they hack off civilian's heads they don't really say much. But, when someone draws a stupid picture of their God or makes an affront of any type toward them then they flip out. 
It makes me sick that we are wasting resources and our troops blood on these people. I actually hope for a situation where the Sunnis and the Shi'ites and the Jews and the Arabs in general all go to war and kill each other off. Then we could go over there and suck all of the oil out of the ground and be done with it.
Or give them the same medicine we gave japan?
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Actually Japan is a great success story. We occupied them and managed to help them build up into a democracy, one of the great industrial nations, and the second largest economy in the world.
It all worked out in the long run with our occupation of Japan. I have a feeling that Iraq will not end on such a positive note.
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you must have a history major huh
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Nope. I just have a well-rounded education.
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The doctor implanted a separate, super nose brain in RandalFlagg's schnoz. It's an ultra dense, pea sized fleshy pod, that is basically a hardrive.
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Six years ago was a crazy day for me. I remember everything about it with crystal clarity. I remember hearing the "clap" of the first plane hitting, from the 14th floor of my college dormitory. I remember seeing a flaming hole in the first tower. I remember going to breakfast thinking a commuter plane had gone off-course and hit the World Trade Center. And I remember being evacuated from my classroom 30 minutes later and finding out both towers had been attacked as well as the other two planes that were hijacked. And I remember most of all trying to film the burning towers at the intersection of Bowery and Lafayette, and my camera battery dying right before the first tower fell, fell with an eerie silence, 30 blocks away from me I watched it sink and I watched dust and smoke rise to take its place and a chill washed over me because there was no sound - there was no sound to validate what I was seeing with my eyes. Just a silent tumble, a quiet subtraction from my sacred skyline. A terrible, unforgettable day.
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I also just wanted to share this fantastic photograph:
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are they lazers pointing up where the towers were?
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they are there to blind any airplanes flying by.
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No, those are just humongous spotlights.
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actually theres been a few green lazers being pointed into the cockpits of jumbos in australia
oneless those look cool man
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Fuck 9/11
Fuck the people who instigated it, fuck the people who became paralyzed by fear from it, fuck the government who used it to push it's insane agenda, and fuck the fact that we still need to feel remorse and talk about it six years later. 9/11 will be remembered as the day the beginning of the end happened for the United States.
I feel nothing but anger towards Americans about 9/11
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I had a family member that died when United Airlines Flight 93 crashed..
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RandalFlagg said: Just pathetic. Immature dumb young kids LOL'ing and posting stupid smileys all the while completely emotionally ignorant of the fact that 3,000 real people with real families, friends, and lives died. Only caring about whether or not they have a full bowl to smoke. Not having one ounce of civility, compassion, or social consciousness.
I agree 100%, how sad. I assume most of the people reinforcing humour as a mourning tactic on this thread have never suffered a major hardship of a lost loved one, and is the reason for all the childs play. This thread almost has a way of showing true colors of some of the people on this thread, and just how immature they are, and can be.
Yrtlzmo yea i do know what reparations are, I just got the words reparations, homage, and tribute mixed up. I couldnt figure out which one to use and it was irritating me so i just used the first one.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Brainiac]
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I'm sorry 
Please don't take what I said as a personal attack against you or anyone personally effected by 9/11.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Brainiac]
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Brainiac said: I had a family member that died when United Airlines Flight 93 crashed..
As the passengers of that flight fought back I pray that they made those piece of shit ragheads suffer.
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We all die. People bitch and whine about taking others deaths so serious because they forget that. - Or they want to forget that. People die every day. You will too and you generally don't get to choose how. It doesn't matter.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: eeso]
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Yes, people do die. But, how many people are so blatantly and brutally murdered at one instant? That is why it elicits such a response.
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3,000 isn't a lot.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Brainiac]
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Brainiac said: I had a family member that died when United Airlines Flight 93 crashed..
..holy shit that is so sad, what family member died from it?
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Yes it is, for it to occur under such circumstances and in such a public and shocking way.
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Yes it is, for it to occur under such circumstances and in such a public and shocking way.
randal is owning people on this thread
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911 was way fucked up and very sad..I start to wonder if the U.S. government was personally involved. i hate Cowboys, I hate Republicans, and all the Bushs are retarded cowboys.
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At times I'm tempted to try and entirely forget it ever happened, just to spite the malevolent pricks who have tried to turn a legitimately tragic event into just another motherfucking "Daisy Ad"
"Be scared, shitheads of America! We will save you! Give us your complicity and your trust, to interpret democracy as we see fit!"
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RandalFlagg said: Yes, people do die. But, how many people are so blatantly and brutally murdered at one instant? That is why it elicits such a response.
How many people died instantly in Hiroshima? 70,000? Another 60,000 followed them to the grave in the next few months. How many of those were "innocents"?
You know I saw a movie last night called "The Insurgents". One of the characters had this to say about the subject of "insurgents":
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Who is the "good guys" and who is the "bad guys" is all just a matter of dates...and who won what war
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: trendal]
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And who was doing the fighting. It's true, we were the terrorists who would snipe officers, a practice considered highly immoral. We were the ones who would sneak in and bomb buildings and disrupt british forces. Now we're the imperialists trying to impose our will on another country. We are not the good guys here
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: trendal]
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For everyone living in the U.S. bitching about American politics and American life, why don't you just leave the country? Just pack up move to Canada, right?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Fuck that. This is my country, I'm not letting some insipid criminal cock suckers force me out of my home.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Ah the ol 'love it or leave it'
If we assume one 'loves' their country, wouldn't it be more logical to want to change it for the better than to leave it to rot?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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If the honest or smart folk just bail out and leave the helpless and the crooks, America will wind up being Mexico.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: eeso]
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"...Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Wouldn't you agree Bush has way to much power to "institute new government"? So why waste breathe, time, and effort for that cause?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Edit - sometimes I'm just a little bit special
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: trendal]
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trendal said: How many people died instantly in Hiroshima? 70,000? Another 60,000 followed them to the grave in the next few months. How many of those were "innocents"?
They all were innocents as far as I know. And yes, that was a tragedy.
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trendal said: The first man to die in the American Revolution was a black man. Do you think the British called him a hero? Hell no. He was an insurgent. So were the founding fathers...and so are we.
Who is the "good guys" and who is the "bad guys" is all just a matter of dates...and who won what war
We are not talking about wars where men in unfiform are targeted. We are talking about instantaneous occurrences where many civilians are targeted and murdered. Big difference.
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Gastronomicus said: Um, no. This here gun is what insitutes the new government when the people overthrow the old one. Bush doesn't get a new government, if he's lucky, he gets to live.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Wouldn't you agree Bush has way to much power to "institute new government"?
No, I don't.
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So why waste breathe, time, and effort for that cause?
A cause worth fighting for is a cause worth fighting for. Principal, it's too bad it's so lacking in people.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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edit - it appears that in fact I am in the wrong, I misread your post.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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"...Whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
Wouldn't you agree Bush has way to much power to "institute new government"? So why waste breathe, time, and effort for that cause?
American colonists armed with hunting rifles and such won a war against the highly trained and strongly disciplined military of an empire that spanned the globe... and the Hessian mercenaries.
In a more modern context (with modern weaponry), Fidel Castro led a revolution with a force of only a few hundred men, against a national army thousands of soldiers strong. Who is now in charge of cuba?
Standing armies never have and never will have an effective strategy against Guerrilla warfare.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Konnrade]
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Especially when the standing army is in Iraq and the guerillas are in the US
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Would you join the rally if something along those lines was to occur?
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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I would fucking lead it.
I am as patriotic as they come. I love this country but I hate seeing what's being done with it. I will gladly lay down my life if it means preserving the principles this country was based on
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Thats good to see. I personally would like to see a change in government. But I'm not going to let the fact that the Bush admin. may have set up 9/11 deter me from remembering what happened on this day.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Of course. I deeply mourn the loss of every life that day. Still, I honor the dead and so I hate to see all this schlock that attempts to use their loss for someone's gain.
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Agreed...
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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If the Revolution rolled through your town on its way to DC would you come?
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I still say 3,000 isn't a lot.
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Comparitively. It's 3000 more then should have died however
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The were going to die no matter what.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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So are we all, so why don't we all just kill ourselves now?
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Because I don't have a gun.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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In another thread on another forum people are posting Yellowcard lyrics and talking about how great the song is and how great the band is...
If anything this day has shown just how stupid people are.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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So be creative
But anyway, you're right. And all the jews who died in the holocaust were going to die too. So whatever 
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Yup. There are more important issues that go along with the attacks than those who died.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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So those that died are not important too? I understand that there are degrees of importance, but trivializing mass death is hardly the correct response
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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Well they say death is the leading killer in America.
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Gastronomicus said: So those that died are not important too? I understand that there are degrees of importance, but trivializing mass death is hardly the correct response
Sure they're important but it's all connected and it's because of those 3,000 that this country and it's citizens are being raped of rights and privacy while this country is running rampant all over the world murdering and invading without just cause. Yeah sure it's sad that those 3,000 died but fuck those 3,000 if the last six years were the results.
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I think I've mad my stance on this perfectly clear. Death is not relative. I do not feel any more effected by the deaths of those that died in the World Trade Centers than those who die every day because of starvation. I don't know any of them, so I honestly don't care. For people to expect me to be upset about it and to mourn their lives is ridiculous in my mind.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Noviseer]
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Noviseer]
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the victems of 9/11 get 40 acres and a mule?
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Gastronomicus said: So those that died are not important too? I understand that there are degrees of importance, but trivializing mass death is hardly the correct response
Sure they're important but it's all connected and it's because of those 3,000 that this country and it's citizens are being raped of rights and privacy while this country is running rampant all over the world murdering and invading without just cause. Yeah sure it's sad that those 3,000 died but fuck those 3,000 if the last six years were the results.
Right, that's what I'm saying. I know that there are bigger things at stake, but I can still care that 3000 people died, most of them horribly I might add.
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Gastronomicus said: So those that died are not important too? I understand that there are degrees of importance, but trivializing mass death is hardly the correct response
Sure they're important but it's all connected and it's because of those 3,000 that this country and it's citizens are being raped of rights and privacy while this country is running rampant all over the world murdering and invading without just cause. Yeah sure it's sad that those 3,000 died but fuck those 3,000 if the last six years were the results.
Right, that's what I'm saying. I know that there are bigger things at stake, but I can still care that 3000 people died, most of them horribly I might add.
That's my point though, Americans aren't intelligent enough to comprehend two different emotions or thoughts at once so it's time that this country gets over this 9/11 bullshit and start dealing with the bullshit being committed in it's name. I really don't a fuck about those 3,000 people and I'm sick of criminal motherfuckers hiding behind those 3,000 innocents to get their agendas off.
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I'm intelligent enough to see that. And yes, I fully agree that Bush and his cronies exploited, and probably comitted 9/11 for their own benefit. They deserve to die
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Do you realize what you said...."Yeah America has never amounted to anything WE ARE ALL stupid and everyone else is far more superior".
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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I don't think Stranded is from these parts AG
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: AG Tek]
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Do you realize what you said...."Yeah America has never amounted to anything WE ARE ALL stupid and everyone else is far more superior".
Think about American philosophy. Everything is either good or bad. Churches and religion are good and always will be. Drugs are bad and there's no positives too them and they always will be. The Vietnamese and communists in general are soulless robots who do not care about families. There are terrorists how to get us because they are jealous of us. This entire country from the late 1800s on has been founded upon a pure black and white John Wayne like outlook on the world where most of the people and the policies with which it lives by cannot function or understand anything but good or bad. In essence fund and aid and give tax breaks to the good or kill and jail and steal from the bad. That's the way America works. I appreciate you trying to put words in my mouth but America has gotten to where it is from bombing and manipulating those that stand in the those whom control the government's way. The only problem is the world and some of America's own citizens are advancing past the "Fuck 'em or Kill 'em" black and white philosophy which is making the government and those that control crack down all the more. Which is why Americans aren't intelligent enough to comprehend two different emotions or thoughts at once. So... America and the majority of Americans can go fuck themselves.
By the way, I was born and raised in Seattle.
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Ah gotcha. From what you were saying it sounded like you were from another country.
You're right about the black and white of our society. It's like in Donnie Darko where the teacher has everyone sort things into "Fear" and "Love."
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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hey jewunit, i thought the holocaust was fuckin awesome. suck dicks u jew.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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Huh? If you actually had any reading comprehension skill you'd realize what you just said doesn't offend me at all. Moron.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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He clearly doesn't
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haha i wish it did though.
but seriously, how can u say that shit, they were innocents that were killed jackass.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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Okay for the final fucking time. Death is not relative
 I THOUGHT I had made my point perfectly fucking clear. And if I hadn't I thought YawningAnus made my point perfectly fucking clear. Apparently some of you are just too fucking stupid to figure it out.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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You're right you know. It just sounds callous to say
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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shut up tool
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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Why? Because I'm not a softy bitch who gets upset when people die that have no relevance to me? If people used logic instead of being blindly compassionate so much more shit would get done.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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haha u two are cute.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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you too sweet heart
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Leanin]
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Just as I thought, you can't actually back up anything you say. Good try with the whole ad hominem approach, but usually when people go that route they say things that are funny.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
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Or at least moderately intelligent
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At least he used the right form of two.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: FecalDildo]
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FecalDildo said: I propose that we all spare a moment to think about all the innocent Iraqi civilians killed since 2003.

that day should be called 365/year.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Merkin]
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Hey America. Get over it!
Those of you who lost relatives, by all means grieve, but the rest of you, enough already.
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: jewunit]
#7398051 - 09/11/07 07:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm impressed
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JonnyOnTheSpot
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Registered: 01/27/02
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Loc: North Carolina
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wow... right now msnbc is airing all their 9/11 footage "as it happened" the day of the attack. could they be anymore tacky and desperate for ratings? it's just morbid fascination on a very basic level.
feel something!....feel all shitty again and watch our toyota commercials!! what scum bags they are. i guess it's not like they're the first to exploit 9/11 for all it's worth, and i know they won't be the last, but it's still pretty pathetic.
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shitfacedme
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Merkin]
#7399072 - 09/12/07 12:12 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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american soldier:would you like a banana?
iraqi orphan:yes please but can you remove the seed?
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Konnrade
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It was only through a very deliberate excercise of will that I was able to make it through today without just going off on someone, anyone, about the falsity of it all and the evils associated with it... as though I was Noam Chomsky on some sort of drunken tirade, cursing everything within a 3 mile radius merely because such a problem happens to exist.
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ShiVersblood
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Registered: 08/18/07
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I feel bad for all the people who died on that day. Our country will not forget you. I feel bad for all the people on the plane, they knew it was hijacked. They knew they were going to crash. It would be scary on there being helpless. 9/11/01
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shitfacedme
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Re: September 11, 2001 [Re: Konnrade]
#7399129 - 09/12/07 12:30 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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a few jokes to lighten merkins mood
A Iraqi kid died and went to the heavens, the first thing he saw was a giant tree , after asking a nearby angel, he knew that this tree represents the faith of mankind, a leaf fell, he asked what is this? the angel said: A guy in the USA named Jeffrey Thomas has just lost his faith in God. another leaf fell, he asked again, who is this? The angel said: A guy in Japan named Oi-Wun has just cursed God. A few minutes later, there was a giant rumble from the tree and a whole bunch of leaves came tumbling down...Panicked, the kid asked: What is this? The angel said: Electricity went down in Faluja and everybody cursed God
One day a fat Iraqi guy visits a sausage factory. He sees this big machine where you put in the cows here and get packaged sausages at the other end. Amused, he asks the owner if they have one where you feed it sausages and get cows in return. The owner looks at him at says, "well, that's your mother!"
A Iraqi gets a golden dental filling, sleeps in a safe.
A Iraqi finds the Magic Lamp and gets a free wish: - "I want you to free Palestine," he tells the genie. - "That's too hard, ask for something eles." - "Then stop people from making jokes about us." - "I'll just free Palestine!"
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