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new pics,,id on some very blue mushrooms...edited
#7394747 - 09/11/07 01:16 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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these little beautiful blue mushrooms caught my eye, iam quite curious to what they are????
habitat; decomposing wood leaves, directly from wood, on a wood mulch, cardboard, shady under a brush pile, mostly sand, in a clear cut.
cap; 1-2,1/2 inch, dark blue, green tones, sky blue, brown, burnt cream to a near white, blue stronger on smaller specimens, some what fragile, striped lines on cap near margin, some humped, some flat.
gills; free, close, whit on small, cream white to brown, to rusty brown.
stem; 2-4", 1/4th" to 1/8th" thick, white, blue and brown tones, fibrous, sock shaped base, with blue bruising, stronger on smaller specimens, dark blue inside base, mycelium white.
spores; a dark rusty brown
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7394764 - 09/11/07 01:24 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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wow dude....
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7394772 - 09/11/07 01:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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The gills and spores look rusty to me, not a touch of purple to be seen.
Also, are you sure about blue bruising on the stipe? If so, can you please provide a photo??
I did not really understand the substrate/habitat that these were found, but anyway, I'm thinking a Cortinarius or maaaaybe Conocybe.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7394790 - 09/11/07 01:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I see blue on some of the stems,particularly the little one.think he means they were under a cleared brush pile growing on wood chips in a sandy area.
trigger:soft woods again?
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: coon]
#7394797 - 09/11/07 01:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah iam a bit excited, they were growing 5 feet from the "silvactia" that are still popping up, not to mention some gyms!!

check your local clearcuts!
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7394814 - 09/11/07 01:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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bluefoot can have a pretty rusty spore print,but that they are not.I dont have the slightest idea what they are.very damn interesting though.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: coon]
#7394826 - 09/11/07 01:50 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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there was defiant bruising, the color of bluing seems off for an active, but really curious!! yes soft wood with some hardwood mixed in, they were growing from soil on thick wood mulch.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7394884 - 09/11/07 02:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, defiant bruising you say? Did it boldly resist your attempts to bruise it? 
So wait, was the soil on the mulch, or was the mulch on the soil? the latter seems more likely...
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7395637 - 09/11/07 09:47 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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CureCat said: Oh, defiant bruising you say? Did it boldly resist your attempts to bruise it? 
So wait, was the soil on the mulch, or was the mulch on the soil? the latter seems more likely...
what? i dont get you?
the mulch was sandy, on the sandy soil.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7395732 - 09/11/07 10:23 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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so mulch mixed with sandy soil under a brush pile?you're saying they were growing from the soil or were the mushrooms growing off the chips?
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: coon]
#7395888 - 09/11/07 11:21 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think it is a Cortinarius. Please post a picture of some pins so we can see the cortina.
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wouldnt the bluing and rusty spore print lead to a conocybe species? pissibly conocybe cyanopus or related?
thats far out tho man.
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> wouldnt the bluing and rusty spore print lead to a conocybe species? pissibly conocybe cyanopus or related?
Yes, but the cap doesn't look like a Conocybe.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7396172 - 09/11/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wow..... Thats nothing like I've ever seen. I will have to lean towards Conocybe as well, but it doesn't seem to fit any species I am aware of. It definately needs to be examined microscopically.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: Workman]
#7396862 - 09/11/07 03:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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well i checked the sight in witch theses mushrooms were growing, i saw another popping up, and a storm chased me away! ill get more pics and pictures of the habitat.
" It defiantly needs to be examined microscopically." i will send you a sample...
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7397221 - 09/11/07 04:37 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looks like a pluteus, the darker print doesn't, but the mushroom does.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7397257 - 09/11/07 04:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Workman said: It definately needs to be examined microscopically.
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trigger said: " It defiantly needs to be examined microscopically."
Definite: ~clearly defined or determined; not vague or general; fixed; precise; exact ~positive; certain; sure
Defiant: ~boldly resisting authority or an opposing force
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7397298 - 09/11/07 04:54 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: falcon]
#7397829 - 09/11/07 06:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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nice find may be a inocybe i notice a slight blue in the stem in the mushrooms of 1 foto, i was thinking pluteus also but that spore print led it out . ¡let be more light in you road!
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: cactu]
#7398052 - 09/11/07 07:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7398124 - 09/11/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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trigger said: yeah iam a bit excited, they were growing 5 feet from the "silvactia" that are still popping up, not to mention some gyms!!
Wow! What a fantastic collection of finds!
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: scout24]
#7398590 - 09/11/07 09:25 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cortinarius_iodes.html
its time of year for c. iodes to be fruiting too.
looks like them to me
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: Ebb]
#7398608 - 09/11/07 09:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ebb said: http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cortinarius_iodes.html
its time of year for c. iodes to be fruiting too.
looks like them to me
I disagree with you.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: coon]
#7398757 - 09/11/07 10:12 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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i disagre with you too an by far , i still stick to inocybe , guees conocybe is more conic well for this mushrroms. nice find
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: cactu]
#7399007 - 09/11/07 11:42 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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> i still stick to inocybe
I have never seen an Inocybe that did not have a fiberous cap. If it was Inocybe, I would expect splitting near the edges on the drier specimens.
I am not convinced they are really bluing. More pictures of younger specimens would help.
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I am convinced that they are blue and not purple.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: coon]
#7399313 - 09/12/07 01:45 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Certainly not C. iodes.
I doubt Inocybe as well. Just doesn't look right, and spores are too rusty.
I too, do not notice any blue bruising/staining... I see blue, yes, but it does not look like psilocin bluing.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7399864 - 09/12/07 08:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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"it does not look like psilocin bluing"
i agree that the blue color is off, its too sky blue and not quite an ink blue.... the color intensified several hours after picking...??? i have seen a similar blue color on pictures of what i think were blue foots, one looked like an easter egg... anyone seen this picture? i know theses are not blue foots but iam curious to see the pic again...
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7399976 - 09/12/07 09:10 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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It is not uncommon for mushrooms to become darker after picking. Usually from handling, and loss of moisture.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7400418 - 09/12/07 11:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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not a cortinarius for sure. the inocybes have the fibrous cap as curecat said, the conocybe print is good yet i wouldnt have a clue as to what it could be in that group.
Only reason i say conocybe is because of the print, other conocybe species have been ID'd as active yet they seem much bigger than any possible active conocybe ive seen before. I call for workman's expertise. Send it to the lab.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: Workman]
#7402274 - 09/12/07 08:11 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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still hittin up those clearcuts i see, sweet lookin shrooms.
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Subbedhunter420 said: the inocybes have the fibrous cap as curecat said
It was actually Alan who asserted that characteristic.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7404276 - 09/13/07 12:05 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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whoops. mistaken. the credit goes too....
ALAN@@@!!!^^^
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7449021 - 09/24/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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just got time to up date my find, 4 days after a nice rain more came up in the same location along with some gyms, they came up darker with more intense bluing, and a stronger dark blue bruising when drying, i captured some mycelium, see pics, more pics later,
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: trigger]
#7449191 - 09/24/07 08:40 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Damn, nice update. Great work capturing a range of specimens.
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: scout24]
#7449604 - 09/24/07 10:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Could you post a pic of a pin sliced in half, showing any veil/cortina thing?
Are the caps slimy when moist?
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I GUESS NOW THAT CREATURE IS ACTIVE OR NOT MY FRIEND WHAT YOU SAID, YOU ARE THE MAN DEALING WITH IT ,
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: cactu]
#7449807 - 09/24/07 10:53 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cactu.... caps lock is on.
I only mention this because all of your posts right now, are in caps, and usually you don't post in caps.
Maybe Angry German kid did a number on yer keyboard...
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Re: id on some very blue mushrooms... [Re: CureCat]
#7449833 - 09/24/07 10:58 PM (16 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah i begging to notice in the middle of it but i say go for it may sound loud
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