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Re: Ego... language limit... [Re: Sclorch]
    #744641 - 07/14/02 01:42 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

It is impossible to take noncontinuity to an extreme. Therefore, you?ll never reach an ideal level of noncontinuity.

It's more like an exercise in awareness. There exists, I think, a jewish sect which is committed to the rule of never doing something for which you feel a need to be doing it... like, if you are hungry, you have to wait until the need to eat vanishes. You have to wait until you are so tired that you want nothing else but to sleep. Then you eat. I'm not that extreme, but I think that trying NOT to act on any definition of myself helps to understand how that ego thing works. But you are right, it tends to become a definition in itself. So it's not the goal, it's just an exercise.


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Re: Ego... language limit... [Re: Nomad]
    #744897 - 07/14/02 06:13 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

yawn.


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ignortion [Re: Sclorch]
    #746913 - 07/14/02 11:37 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

ignortion = the condition of being ignored

says me


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Re: Ego... language limit... [Re: llib]
    #746935 - 07/15/02 12:03 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Quote from Sartre:

"(the ego is)...flux of consciousness constituting itself as the unity of itself"

When you are aware of yourself, you are able to reflect on your own consciousness, but this is only done by objectifying what is observed and understood. This object is the Ego.


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    #746972 - 07/15/02 12:43 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

vaporbrains
"i don't think animals have ego's?"
The mirror stage you've just used to proove there is a sense of self can be tested in a monkey with success. Also some animals have ego because they have perception and will, don't confuse this with instinct, instinct is related to the capabilities animals have to analise and act acordingly a situation and is seen as a raw form of inteligence. You just need the words "want" and "feel" to build an ego.

Nomad
"Yes. Maybe. But there's nothing wrong about using the ego as a vehicle to get to egolessness. There's actually no other way to do this. That's what it makes it so hard."

This is so true, ego is the balance between the active and passive parts of the mind (Id-Superego), which is therefore both and more. The conscious mind. That which is capable of using the rest of the holistic self in accordance with its will, without will there will be no action, we could exist with no action for a period of time (like when meditating) that's the time you can supress the ego but as we are limited to the physical world (eat, sleep, move), we are obligated to take action to survive thus ending any egoless session.

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